ChrisBV

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Thanks Rambler & a10boar The bombs are still a WIP, I'm working on them as I'm getting started on a Tornado GR.1 re-skin project. I'm really enjoying Lexx_Luthor's INCREDIBLE missile exhaust effects ... but I'd like to improve or change the "blocky" smoke trail effect (the one you get when the booster ignites), does anybody know of a good way to do it? Other than that, the effects are AWESOME! Oh, yeah... DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! PS: how do I create a smokeless AMRAAM booster effect?

We bear gifts... ... and we deliver :diablo:

Don't know if this is related to the patch or even ODS but I just flew a mission... and I could se problems with AI aircraft animations, like folded wings and open canopies in mid-air

Hey, isn't that IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946?

Si participara, UK tendría que ser aliado:

Thank you very much, Spectre, a10boar & AOCbravo :good: I also installed and fired up ODS today and my first jet of choice was the Tornado GR.1 (I'm sort of in a "Tornado mood" these days ). It turned to be pretty much as awesome as the F3, I LOVE IT!!!! Went out there in a quick mission to take out an Iraqi SCUD launcher... scored one hit with an LGB despite having being engaged by TWO Mirage F1s and came back almost with my tanks on empty A Bedouin spots us coming in low: Two LGBs were released but only one found its mark... considering I was being "painted" and engaged by two Iraqi Mirages, I think it was a rather good outcome, don't you think?. I waited for at least one bomb to hit and started manoeuvreing aggressively and pumping out chaff and flares to defeat the missiles... thank God it worked! After the bomb hit, I parket the throttle in full AB and lit up my reheats to get the hell out of there! Landed with just a few pounds of fuel left ODS is incredible, the quality... I mean, the Tornado pit is just glorious and the terrain, the objects... and I haven't even seen nothing yet!

There has been a small outbreak of “zombism” in London due to mutation of the H1N1 virus into new strain: H1Z1. After death, this virus is able to restart the heart of it’s victim for up to two hours after the initial demise of the person where the individual behaves in extremely violent ways from what is believe to be a combination of brain damage and a chemical released into blood during “resurrection.” OMG it's happening... FOR REAL!!!! This is when watching movies really pays off.

I'd love to see damage modelling à la Lock-On: Flaming Cliffs

This jet is absolutely fantastic, I'm flying it like crazy! Just one question: I'd like to use X RAY's modern British pilots with bobrock's F3 but I can't seem to find the right coordinates in order to place them in the cockpit, does anybody know how to accurately position them?

Wow, thanks! I'm honoured :yes: X RAY, nice job capturing that F-102 Gustav... I'm blown away by your shots, they are beautiful! Simply love the "Scooter over Water" one YEAH, NO KIDDING! This plane is simply GORGEUS, absolutely mind-buggering, both in looks and feel. I sill can't believe we got it for free Speaking of which... No.1435 Flight off Mount Pleasant: defenders of the Falklands captured during a training flight: Can't wait for bobrock's next release (Harrier GR.7 )

Eehhhmmm... this can't be good: Fox 2! (unedited) PS: why are Commie/Warsaw Pact tracers green and NATO/Western ones, orange?

I had pork for dinner yesterday... :blush:

It was a fight like no other... At first, I tried to shoot down as many bad guys as I could from beyond visual range, trying to shorten their numbers... 'Slammers' flew all over the place... ... they were dropping like flies! ... and then, without even realising it, I was in the merge... ... with 20-or-so-plus bandits, trying to shoot me down! So there I was, all by my lonesome, pulling hard Gs, shaking planes off my tail, defeating missiles and guns, using every bit of skill, jet performance and weapons I had available... ... but in the end, it was EricJ's superb "Lions Head" skin that actually made me invincible! Came out without a scratch AND with 15 kills! :biggrin: THANKS EricJ, your skin and the Super Hornet are AWESOME!!!! :good: (Download it HERE)

Are people turning into some kind of mutant, half-human/half-pig-type kind of creatures already? If so... BRING 'EM ON!!!!

All right, EricJ!!!! Thank you VERY MUCH!

Can't wait to try the Harrier/Sea Harrier VTOL flight dynamics modelling

If the UK had nuked Argentina? Oh, absolutely! Make no mistake about that! But let me ask you something: do you think the British were crazy or stupid enough to have even thought about pulling such a stunt without even considering the consequences? What kind of repercussions do you think Britain could have faced for bombing a city with nuclear weapons? Again: nukes aren't like candy, they can't be used or released just because somebody fancies it or deployed to one's heart's content. That's the whole reason why in more than 60 years of existance, only two nuclear weapons have ever been dropped in anger.

Which version is that? According to which sources? Now, as far as foreign aid to Argentina is concerned... some countries helped Argentina, others (namely Chile) helped the UK; after all, Argentina had threatened Chile with invasion after challenging the rule of the International Court of Justice regarding the dispute over the Beagle Channel islands in 1978, just 4 years before the Falklands conflict, why wouldn't then Chile help Britain? Sounds perfectly resonable to me. But then again, helping a foreing ally to wage war against an unfriendly/belligerent/dangerous neighbour (as Argentina, ruled by a ruthless and blood-thirsty military Junta, was at the time) is one thing... and something completely different is to accept, push for or be in favour of a NUCLEAR STRIKE against continental territory. A nuclear strike against a civilian population (Cordoba, Buenos Aires), a flagrant crime against humanity, nothing more, nothing less. Using nuclear weapons against civilians, against a civilian target? That would have spelled disaster not only for the Thatcher office, the British government but for Great Britain as a whole, it would have earned the UK international condemnation and a place amongst the most despicable rogue nations of this Earth. Hard to believe, if you ask me.

PS: I seriously hope the developers aren't considering a "nuke Argentina"-type fictional scenario for Jet Thunder

That's pure and gratuitous speculation based on... what? I seriously don't think that ANY South American country would have agreed or stood idly by the nuclear bombing of a fellow South American nation.

Do you really think that, had the UK lost the war in the South Atlantic and consequently, had its Armed Forces and Government (and Prime Minister) humiliated and defeated, would they even had as close as thought about dropping a nuke on Argentina? Do you think the British people would have agreed to such a thing? Are you aware of nuclear release protocols or under which circumstances is it justifiable to deploy nuclear weapons? Nukes aren't like candy, there are protocols and strategic considerations to deploy them, as well as appropriate justifications for release... and losing a conventional war for an overseas territory certainly didn't make enough justification for dropping a nuke on somebody's sovereign soil. It has being said that British ballistic nuclear missile submarines were on-station in the area of the conflict but so they were around the world as part of the British policy of nuclear deterrence against the Soviets (as it was the case with the Americans, French, etc. and the Soviets on the other side). And the MoD has even admitted that some of the ships of the Task Force did carry nuclear weapons - a standard practice during the Cold War - but that they were removed on their way to the South Atlantic. But so it has been made clear that the nuclear "option" was never an option in the South Atlantic scenario.

Tornado Team's (bobrock & friends) ULTRA AWESOME Tornado F3:

LOL I don't think so. It wouldn't had been necessary for Argentina to sink a carrier in order to bring the conflict to a stand (although losing a carrier certainly would have meant the collapse of Operation Corporate since the Task Force relied on air power for obtaining air superiority and support for ground forces - hence the need for placing the carriers outside the range of Argentine land-based aircraft) and force Britain to negotiate, if only Menéndez had used his reserves and stopped the British final assault on Stanley; British forces were nearly out of ammunition, literally firing their last rounds by then, and the assault was being carried out by troops that had been fighting for nearly 72 hours without sleep or food (they had just taken control of the high ridges around the capital after fierce and bloody battles with the Argentines). Menéndez on the other hand had three batallions and enough supplies at his disposal to hold Stanley and stop the British assault, but when he radioed the mainland and talked to Galtieri, he felt so demoralised by the attitude of his superiors that he chose to surrender - he later said he did so thinking of what was best for his troops but in the end, he just gave up after Galtieri told him on the horn: "the responsability today is with you" (in other words, "it's your problem, I'm here some 6 hundred-or-so kilometres away, you see to it"). The Argentines simply quit, their fighting spirit had been broken; they saw no good use in keeping on fighting and surrendered. The day before the surrender, Rear Admiral Woodward told land forces commander, Brigadier General Jeremy Moore, that his Task Force was nearly at the point of being unable to sustain operations and that "... if the Argies could only breathe on us, we would fall over!". In the end I believe had the British not been successful in re-taking the capital of the islands, they would have been forced to sit back and start talking about a cease fire and the prospect of reseting peace talks at the UN, with Argentina now holding the islands hostage and in a position of strenght. But as for nuking the continent? Hard to believe: the nuclear scenario was never contemplated and that has many times been made clear by those in charge of the operation to take back control of the Falklands. The British goal was to retake the Falklands, not to nuke mainland Argentina.