Firecage

If anyones interested Im going to do some flying to get ready for the Sunday Campaign later.

I find the Albs to be a good general purpose plane. They dont twek easy and if you can DF in a YO YO fight they do very well. Mot times the early one will against the Neuip's and you can pull above them well and hammer over on top of them till they are damaged enuff to get better shots. Later on I find them dangerous because camel's start to come along and they are a BIG handful of trouble in the albs unless you can get them to stall in a climb. THey do pretty well I feel vs the Spads. Not a real fast acting plane on a roll idea though.

Yes ... Im in for this any time. I would need to know what planes to have customed out. I have a few of my faves like the Camel and the Albs ready but not much else. Just let me know and I will send some skins for myself.

Well after looking over EVERY post on many sites... I think im going to make the plunge for TIR4 tomorrow if I can find some place that carries it here. I hope I don't have to order it online cuz I hate trying to deal with online ppl if things don't ship or something's wrong with the unit. Im trying to read up on these forums so I will know how to set it up properly when I get it. ANy extra input would be great if you have any.... thanks

It keeps asking me if I shot my self with the dart.... is that a bad sign?

Allied Training Mission - Great for most Mid- End war planes. VERY HARD and set up to use Hrad FM settings. Constant waves of better German planes as the mission moves through. Made for single or multi player. SOmewhat harder as singe. FC_Front Patrol01.zip

Ok Duck here is what im seeing .... If I put 1 spawn target Fac I can get the game to play. As soon as I put in a 2nd Spawn target it crashes. Its something to do with multiple target spawns but Im not sure if there is a way around it or not. Im going to try a new idea and see how it goes... brb in a few with results

Ok that was just too much fun

I will be here... well actually im already here and working on tactics now. Any idea of what planes everyone wants to fly so I can brush up... im still so new there are many planes i haven't flown yet.

I dropped it back to 1 kill claim instead of 2 and it let me post the claim with out the problem. Looks like the wingies were not looking when I got one of them.

Ok I just had it happen to me again and heres what I figured out. Even though I had 2 wingies near they were either not able to view my kill or altitude difference was the problem They were down below me somewhat and the other one was in a cloud area. Im guessing line of sight and typical war problem of them being on target fixation is the cause. This is talked about many time in the books from this era that many pilots shot down more than they got credit for due to no confimations. I think its BH&Hs way of simulation that kind of event. Irritating but it did happen alot... I am getting that same thing every now and then but its one I can live with since im now seeing what I think the game is doing. :suicide2:

I had this happen twice and I am still not sure what happened. I am guessing its wingmen not close enough, Witness name spelled wrong, Claimed wrong type of aircraft downed, or someting like that. I will watch this post 'cuz I would love to knowwhat these are all about and how to avoid them.

Ok im really getting where I love this plane but one area is just eating me alive.... When im in most every othe plane hammerheads and yo-yos seem to work well but the camel is just getting into a tumble that pretty much un recoverable. has any one got any tips on why the weight of the engine wont get the nose of the camel to pull around and drop over ? Or an different way of doing these type of manouvers? Thanks for any help or advice

Ok its 7:00 pm CST and I have a multi game going for traning myself to fly better. Anyone is invited and Im on TS so join TS and speak up and I will restart a new game for us.

I use a Logitech twist and see no problems for my level of flying abilities... alot of pilots love rudders and I can say what ever works for ya is the way to go.... Thanks for all the ideas ... I may see something here... maybe I need to cut the engine at a different time to ge the nose to drop over. I get at the top of the stall and rudder it over and it just wants to fall straight back and wont flip the nose around on a hammerhead. I will try cutting the eng a bit earlier and see if I can get the nose to pull over to the side a bit more. I may also need to start the nose over a bit earlier in the camel than I have been doing in the Albs. The nose is heavier in the Alb I think and thats helping me get her turned back towards the earth easier. Also I always did the hammerhead as a move to the right over left and not a flip over the top which may be a new idea to try and see if I have more luck withit that way.... great ideas all.... I am asing because when I over shoot a plane it seems to work better to hammer head and come back more than a Barrel roll and gives me a few more seconds to SA the enemy plane and see what evasive move he might be pulling and act accordingly. I have done some work and found out a bit more on how to get the Wing over's and yo yos to work better.... its the damn hammerhead thats tweaking me still at times. I think some time in Free flight doing some test runs may be in order... altho I find training under the gun of a campaign to be more of a learning experience. .... but then I was always a hard head at learning new tricks Thanks for the info

Ya know .... I always avoided the Camel but the more I'm in it the more I am really starting to appreicate the plane and its abilities. Once your in a spin its usually fatal but DAMN is it an amazing bird to fly if you can ride the edge well. Duck and I flew some missions tonight in the camel and I finally started getting the hang of the quirks it has just a bit. I think I may start a campaign with it and see how it does in there to get some practice. Hope to see some pilots Saturday nite for some Pre-Sunday practice.... Im easy to find look for the rookie plane with the target on it .... Firecage

Are we going to have any people on tonight? I will check back in a few mins after a bite to eat... Im willing if anyone else wants to

Im pretty sure I can make it if its not too early...... (yawn)

Well Im very new to OFF as well(less than 2 weeks now) and if I get any pilot past 4 hrs I feel I am doing someting right. I have lost more than a fair share to flak hits. I am really learning MVRs approach to fights.... only get in a fight if your sure to win. The AI in this sim seems to really like to catch you fixating on a target. At the point where your sure your about to fill the enemy with lead you will want to look behind you because theres a high chance his friend is about to do the same to you One thing Im sure of is the idea of leading the flight and being in the aces groups pays off well. AI wingmen do listen more and have saved my ass many times now. That being said .... even when I die im having fun and can't wait to get the next ace wanna be in the air.... GL and keep up the good work.

I think it sounds like he is losing his mind... Yea I had a great time and thanks for all the help getting my TS and MP files set up right. i did at least get to shoot Udet down tonight.... although the flak at those balloon sites was just nasty.

Im very new to OFF but I should be able to make it after 7:00cst on thursdaya nd be a target for someone

1)Background: I have been flying now on around 20 missions so this is a view from a new player towards the game. I came from the old RB2 days and remember well the great times most of us had back then I have been searching for a WWI sim that has the feel and immersion of those days. I wanted to have a sim that had a bit more varied way of setting up the game and the ability so that as I learned the planes better I could add things in and out to suit my needs(I am a glutton for punishemnt and went right for the DID standard and full real settings). This game has an amazing set of things you can change from Weather, realism, FM, Dates, Graphics, and many more!! 2) Feel: One thing I wanted was the feel of actually being in the war and the fear of things going wrong and not getting home alive. I did NOT want to feel like I just put a quarter in the game machine and flew like a God and made 20 kills a flight. I remember well having to make the call of running away from certain fights in RB to fight another day.... my motto is live chicken is better than dead hero any day. If you like realism settings and limited ammo/fules this IS the game to have right now. I have tried to float back to home lands out fo fuel.. ran home with no ammo... and died trying all of these. The only God mode is the one your pilots tend to meet after death here in this sim. Keep an eye on your supplies and location. 3) Graphics: Things had to look real and feel right. One thing I have seen in most WWI games is a refinement of the planes to look clean and smooth edged. Actuall photos showed these planes to look crude and rough. After all we had not been in the air all that many years.Sleek is not a word that comes to mind very often when looking at old photos. Well the thing is was afraid of being an old owner of CFS3 was crap graphics and play... no worries here any longer. It took 5 times longer to install BH&H than it did to install the 2 CDs of CFS3. Now THAT shows you how much they worked to change this into a sim worth buying!!! Amazing look in here!! 4) AI and FM: I was tired of fake looking damage and dumbass AI... excuse my lang here but AI usually is what pisses me off about flight sims most times. It either WAY over board and you can't survive at all or they are 12 years olds in a plane and don't do any real manouvers or they ram into you constantly like a bumper car track. FMs are the worse point in these WWI sims. I think alot of these planes are not around and there isn not that much great data to be had or a game to transfer it to the player. Thank you , thank you, thank you... I feel like im fighting real pilots. Each DF seems to hold a different feel tot he fight and not one time have we collided with each other. AI will hunt you down and kill if you don't keep it together even on Easy enemy AI its still pretty aggressive but not over done. The planes fly very well and handle nicely. If your a camel fna you better bring a few set fo clean underware... that plane is the devils spawn. 6)Immersion Factor: I want to feel like im there plain and simple ! Did I mention lack of sleep? I found myself trying to turn the sim off and go to bed ... just one more flight... yawn... damn is that the sun ? Pros: Buy the game now and get in the air. Its an amazing game and they did a great job making it for us. This game is more polished than 90% of the other games that cost twice as much! There are a few things tht could be changed and improved on and they are releasing patches constantly due to feed back and the pilots here have been WAY WAY helpful on any issues and questions. This game is all I wanted RB to grow into and is the right stepping stone on that path. You can get CFS3 for $5.99 at many places on the web and $29 for BH&H ... what a steal. DO NOT think your going to jump in a plane and rip the air up right off. This one takes time to learnand is well worth the time invested. Cons: It did take a bit to get all the graphics bugs fixed at the start, I don't feel its bad code its just so many options in the PC world as far as cards, cpus settings and such that took some time to get it all working right. Also remember they have alot of CFS3 thats hard coded they had to work around and thats not an easy task. I have some graphic glitches im still seeing at time but im pretty sure they are driver related or Direct X related at this point. And Im sure If I need help its right here in these forums. Lack of sleep is a bad issue as well I would get this sim to ANY friends who are looking for a ton of fun and great fights.

I am having one heck of a time keeping a lock on the enemy plane im Dodfighting with. Everytime I just between the pit and external I have to cycle through and find him for a lock again. What keyboard command can I use to stay locked on a target when going between internal and external views? Thanks in advance

Yes I agree, I tried to make that clear but I will state again. I do NOT feel as the *bugs* are part of OFF I feel they come from CFS3 or just the normal "settings" that need to be set with pretty much any game when you start getting things going. My term bug is just what I use when getting wierd graphics from ANY driver type issue, not trying to infer that OFF has the bugs at all On the contray ... OFF is in better shape right out of the box than any flight SIM I have flown in YEARS!!. Any concerns anyone has about the game should be ignored and grab the game and snjoy the fun

Yes If I had the cash for the TIR4 it would already be here. I would like to have that option but just not going to happen yet... cash flow with the wifes health is at a low point. Yes I am glad to hear the HAT thingy is a shared problem. I find that trying to get the hat to work as needed is not going well. I don't like using the external as much as I am doing but the lack of Hat settings is really making me have to use it more than usual. Ok I guess I need to work on figuring out the HAT settings better for right now. anyone have an old TIR4 for sale since I know you hardcore guys hav TIR5 by now And I also refuse to use the labels and text on the screens even more than using external views. That really kills the feel of the fights