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I read some memoirs by old PLAAF pilots these days.Most of them about KAW.I found some intresting stuff here 1 Camoflag for MiG-15. Camoflag was used in early battels in Korean.In the begainning,VVS worried about "Friend fire"form ground A-A weapons.(For MiG-15 and F-86 are similar) This is why MiG-15 have camoflag 2 Mission allocation In 7.9.1952,red united force had a meeting about mission allocation VVS:3 IADs (9 IAPs) ---7 IAPs in frontal,main target:F-86,took bad weather missions and night missions KPAF:1 IAD (2 IAPs) ---1 group(Sq?) in frontal,main mission :guerrilla.(check bad Charile?) KPAF also have some Yak-9 for Frontal battels????? AFAIK NK have no MiG-15 IIRC in KAW???? We need Po-2 and Yak-18 for check bed Charile !!! ( We got CJ-6 but that is not full copy) PLAAF:FADs (12 FARs)---8 FARs in frontal,main target:bombers and attackers. First night training for PLAAF was in 8.6.1952/4th FAD.This tells us,if you met any MiG-15 in night mission,that must be VVS. We could set 2 kinds of MiG-15 in date.ini One should be MiG-15VVS (Set AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT)and one should be MiG-15PLAAF(Set AircraftCapability=DAY_ONLY) Most combat happend over 7KM,because 7KM+ was for airforce and 7KM- was for AA guns 3 MiG-15Bis and KAW MiG-15Bis first introduced into PLAAF in 1952. between 8.23~10.17 1952, 348 MiG-15Bis delivered to PLAAF.134 more bewteen 5~10 1953.Most likely all FADs upgraded MiG-15bis before end of war. 4 Time line of PLAAF divisions join battle. 1951.1.21 ~1951.1.30 4th FAD first time 1951.9.12~1952.4 4th FAD second time 1951.10.20~1952.1.14 3th FAD first time and 22th FAR??? (Tu-2) 1952.7+ 7FADs :time line: 2nd FAD,14th FAD,6th FAD,12th FAD,15th FAD,16th FAD,17th FAD,18th FAD All of time fly MiG-15 except 4th FAD LA-11 Some US claimed they shot down LA-9,but there are no La-9 in PLAAF,that is La-11 5 Pilot training VVS 2 IADs in first batch are well trained The other IADs in other batchs are normal trained Most PLAAF FADs are very bad trained ----about 10 hours fly experience,no air combat trained in 1951. Looks most KPA pilots trained by VVS before war. 6 NK ACE pilots Maybe too much claimed????
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If you really want to talk about a pig's life..... I had to tell you that what Kim doing just because Kim met BIG problem insde NK. Easy exmple:can you trust a 20 years top leader without any experince? Just because he is ex-leader's son? No one can do that. Same exmple happend to much in Mid-age,young King always got minister's betrayal. So Kim is just act,act as a hero so that NK people can trust him. But Kim act too bad......as bad as a pig's daily life.........
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Hi,men,you really care a pig's daily life?
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More for skinners The eariles introducing of old J-11 was in "meeting 825",1969 for experience of battel in Vietnam and Mid-east.The old J-11 is a 9-ton,high maneuver medium fighter desighed by Sheng yang,601.Their are 3 plans for J-11: plan A with 2xWP-6C engine,Max speed 1.75,canceled due to low speed. Plan B with WP-7C,but aircraft is to heavy for WP-7C(WP-7C is good enough for 7-ton fighter,but J-11 is 9-ton more).Plan C installed with a rolls-royce "spey",and this is the best plan.The aircraft looks very similar to Mirage F-1. But this is not copy.This aircraft fitted with a 645 or 204 radar(WTF!?),armed with 2x 30mm gun,and 2x IR missile(may be PL-7,R-550 copy).This J-11 program is cancelled for economic construction in 1980s. Program paper for old J-11 Specifications: Length: 15.76 m Wingspan: 8.695 m Empty weight: 8700 kg Max speed: 2.0~2.2 mach T/H: ~1 Ferry range: 2352km Someone made this
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What If Screenshot Thread.......
Erwin_Hans replied to Dave's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 2 Series - Screen Shots
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Due to the failing of old Jian-10,the PLAAF decide to build a new fighter which copyed form MiG-23M L,most technical based the MiG-23MS form Egypt in 1970s.This project desighed in 1978~198X by Shenyang 601 IIRC.Due to the plan for introducing Mirage-2000 and Harrier,the MiG-23ML copy project was transfored to Q-6,Nanchang 302.And finally cancelled after first fly of JH-7. This is historical Link for Nanchang Q-6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanchang_Q-6
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Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit076] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=73 Gv.IAP "Stalingradsko-Venskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Zerbst Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit077] AircraftType=MIG-23MLD UnitName=833 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=23ml_cccp_green10 BaseArea=Altes Lager Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=20 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=20 MissionChance=10 MissionChance[CAS]=10 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------105 Gv.ADIB------------------- 296 559 911 [AirUnit078] AircraftType=MIG-27D UnitName=296 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit079] AircraftType=MIG-27K UnitName=559 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Finsterwalde Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit080] AircraftType=MIG-27K UnitName=911 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brand Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER 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MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit083] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=787 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Finow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP----------------------------- ----------------------125 Gv.ADIB---------------------------- [AirUnit084] AircraftType=MIG-27D UnitName=19 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Rechlin Larz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit085] AircraftType=Su-17M4 UnitName=20 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Gross D鰈ln Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit086] AircraftType=Su-17M4 UnitName=730 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Neuruppin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit087] AircraftType=Su-25 UnitName=357 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brandis Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit088] AircraftType=Su-25 UnitName=368 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Laage Airbase ;BaseArea=Demmin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit089] AircraftType=Su-24MR UnitName=11 ORAP“Vitebskiy” VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit090] AircraftType=Su-17M3 UnitName=294 ORAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=100 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit091] AircraftType=MiG-25BM UnitName=931 Gv.ORAP "Prajskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER ADD this to your 1989 scenario Or check this: For SF1 WOECAMP5_DATA.rar
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As far as I know. Soviet idea is desigh two versions of tank,one more advance and one more numbers. To make sure wins over western tanks in number and quliity. In history,it is like T-34/76 and KV-1/2 T-34/85 and IS-1/2 T-64 and T-62 or T-72 and T-80. The ex-Soviet idea for the next generation is T-95 (object 195) and T-72BM (T-90 as we know,object 188) The T-72BM/T-90 is here. So why no T-95? As I heard someone said Russian is try to have a kind of downgrade T-95
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http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-311.html
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Screenshot Thread
Erwin_Hans replied to Dave's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion