Silverbolt

As Eraser said, US is getting threated in global scenario by china and EU, the major point is that US is the most politically stable of those, and that's a key point to still in the top, IMO.

With permission sure, just ask the author the original .3ds model but ofcourse , if you don't know how to convert it to .lod using the 3d studio max, you'll also need to find a modder who is intrested in it, but we don't see too many cases like this here.

Indeed Gepard i do conccur with many things you say but yes, chavez is an ass...he does persuit politically his oposition, the workers lost 67% of their sallary due to inflation, and as you know, many countries in south america(including mine and venezuela) doesn't have a good distribuction of the money, so, people get starved, which is IMO unacceptable in a country with a huge amount of oil . IMO he is an ass because of the opression and because its not from today that he screwd the regular worker in venezuela. besides all, he have a huge motivation to hate US personally, i would if its true that kidnap story.

Great initiave! just hope all modders agree since we have a lot of fun with models here, so why not them have a little bit of we do here.

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@Dave: Would you mind in include me too? i don't know a thing about that, just the old fashioned media reports. if you have some time , offcourse. btw, instresting to see how those damn Venezuelan F-16s keep flying despites the embargos . i've laught hard he really did said that?

Indeed Dave, i did'nt said that they were spying specially when FC reminds that its an SIGINT aircraft and US planes always do overflights , specially over colombia and Frenchi Guyane, if it was really doeing something ilegal it was probably intercepting narc comunications or monitoring the chaos that was going on that time(ie: indians wanted to rip off every unauthorized miner in they reserve). i don't really give a s**t for this it could be a mistake or no, but the major issue on that is that the media ,ultra-conservative here, said that US was givig a s**t for our sovereignty, and most of time remembering the authoritarian governments that were here with US concern for so long, its a matter of bury the past, to avoid such sensitive theme here, specially when you have an government that was persuited by the right wig in autoritaian goverment times. Indeed, Chavez is an asshole, but everything less idiot, he know that he can afford such diplomatic complications, so that's an cat and mouse game à la cold war one feeding other's excuse.

sure there should be but its an official video from van halen band, 5150 album

awesome, i've watched it first when i was 5 years old :)

Indeed,but it still a recon aircraft equiped with high tech sensors, specially comunications but the media turned a snowball into an avalanche, if you put this plus the fact that US have been present here in south america for soo long with not of the best intentions thise caused an huge comotion in an anti-us wave, which IMO is not good. the same applies to venezuela, the point is that here we most of time have not been brainwashed by the government , so we can understand as a mistake and let it pass, while in venezuela the government is rearming itself because of such provocation to get popular support to its regime...so US flights that are see as a provocation is only feeding the monster . Proof of this , is that Supposed U-2 (supposed becase you guys planted an doubt in my head) inteception caused Chavez to Buy Russian S-300 System, which the media all around the south america turned an self defense weapon as a ballistic missile(lol, that's true), its the same video as chaves says that the BM-30 Smerch will shot down any imperialist threat flying over bolivarian soil(again its funny but true) i know that the viking is an ASW aircraft, it was flying also from dutch island of curacao. and btw, i'm not getting US on the wrong because there is no Wrong or right in this matter, just intrests. Chavez want keep his government feeded with an External enemy, which is USA and US wants take down this lunatic, IMO this is a matter of who feed who more.

Threat? besides do an Military high tech reconancense with some valuable information is certainly threatenig, because it can intercept comunication, and if you add this to the popular incitement...well its deffinatly not good. that's not the first time an USA Military Plane does an ilegal flight over some south american nation, even here in Brazil an US EP-3 Aries did an flight over our biggest gold and native people reserve it simply wasn't intercepted, i must say this was quite ofensive here, specially because it was an reconnaissance aircraft over our treasure, what was the real intention of this ? i remember you that's not the first time an USA aircraft is intercepted over venezuela, 2 years ago an S-3 Viking, did the same and the pilot, there is an Video on youtube where an venezuelan F-16 intercepts an U-2!. i wonder what would US feel if some other nation military plane did flight their mainlaind , specially if it was an reconnaissance plane, with nowadays media you bet this would be a act of war, i'm not sure but US never had an foreing military plane flying over their mainland unauthorized., what seems to not be the same when you say US flying over other nations. Chavez can be the worse person in the world, but this does not give the US right of inflame the situation, could you even imagine if some missorder is done by any pilot? that would be craptastic....something like an shotdown if for one side an plane wich is not intercepted can cause a huge problem in internal society like...''why they did violate our sovereignty and go unpunished ?'' and if goes actually shot, this is a direct act of war. I did not conccur with chavez ideas, acts ,personal strikes and US sovereignty rapes s but last thing i want see here is war. so i say, its pretty threatening in a unstable country like venezuela.

well, i think this you call real life is quite dangerouss...you can lost some toes or even a whole foot, maybe both...anyway... you can crash a couple of times in a simulation without have to worry in having any part of your body been ripped off you