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File Name: No.10 Camels "A" flight with personal markings File Submitter: quack74 File Submitted: 1 Jan 2009 File Category: WW1 Aircraft This download is of four Camels of the No.10Sqn RNAS "A" flight with personal markings. Click here to download this file

File Name: No.10 RNAS Camels A B and C Flights File Submitter: quack74 File Submitted: 1 Jan 2009 File Category: WW1 Aircraft These are No.10 Sqn Camels of the Royal Naval AIr Service (RNAS) "A" flight w/ black and white stripes "B" flight w/ red and white stripes "C" flight w/ blue and white stripes All have plain white wheel covers Click here to download this file

Good info there bucky. Once again your full of helpful knowledge. I'm posting my No.10 RNAS Camels now. I know they are not 100% perfect, but they'll due just fine. And I'm posting four camels for each flight with personal markings. Hope you guys like'em. Took a long freakin time . Please feel free to comment on any of them when downloaded. I can take it

How do I get them back?????????? I liked them. The terrain is too bland w/out them. If anything these terrains need more detail not less.

Well they're all different thats for sure Oh well. All of No.9 were different too. I could do a generic skin for both and do some with personal markings. Would that be ok? Because in the single mission section if you select "Normal" or "Heavy" you could have up to 16 aircraft. The personal skins are only about 4-6. Need something to fill in the rest of the spaces. (other than the stock Camel)

What I really need to know first is, did Roy Brown's flight of Camels all have red noses and red and white tails? I know they had personal markings on the upper wing so I just want to know the general markings of that flight of 209sqn. Was Brown a part of an "A" flight, "B" flight, etc? I ask this because I know no.10 RNAS had 3 flights, "A" black, "B" red, and "C" blue. So did no.209sqn have an "A" flight red, and "B" flight in blue? Was Roy Brown in "A" flight w red nosed camels? If there was a flight line photo of Roy Browns flight, would they all have red noses and red and white tails and red wheel discs? Forget the personal markings for now because I dont think anyone knows for sure. In one of the above posts I have a picture of RoyBrowns Camel from 209 RAF. If I removed the upper wing stripes could this Camel be used in the game under 209 sqn RAF???? The German Jastas all have a general scheme to them even though that wasn't always the case. So I think creating a general skin for 209sqn and 9sqn should work ok. I can do personal skins later to add to the Squadron. Just like I did for the Fokker Dr.1's. Anybody agree? I would like to add some color to the RAF Camels. I'm all done with No.10 sqn. So I'll probably post them tomorrow. Again, thank you all, and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Almost forgot!!!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drinks_drunk: :drinks_drunk: Think I over did it?

Ok let me see if I get ya. I understand 9 became 209. So Brown's Camel and his whole flight had red nose and red and white tails. The upper wings carried their personal markings. Ex: red and white stripes or circles on the upper wings. Did the Blue nosed Camels from 9 carry over to 209? Or were they just red? I know this crazy! Browns 209 Camel was part of a flight? Red nosed and red w white tails? Or all 209's were like this? Or was there a second flight of 209's w blue noses? or was that just the earlier No.9? I hope I'm not confusing you. I just want to make a No.9 and No.209 skin to use in the game. But if they all had personal upper wing markings and different color cowls and tails then it's not going to be easy a little graphic huh? What if I just made a 209 Camel with just a red nose and a red and white tail? To use in the games campaigns and single missions. Same with No.9? Oh before I forget, were the 209 Camels the 150hp and the 9's 130hp?

Was Naval 9 different than 209 Raf? What was the standard of 209? they all have red noses and red and white tails? I see that 9 RNAS was mostly blue. I was going to do a few 9's too. But I would like to get 209 right first. On my 209 camel what are the personal markings? I dont have any books on these things. Just trying to find photos on the web. Some things are confusing . If I remove the personal markings would It be correct? I need everyones help here. Dont know much about Camels. I'm a Dr.1 fan . You've all helped so much with these Camels so far. Credit will go to you when done Keep the info comin! More 209sqn info needed!

Well now I have to try it out p10ppy. Might take some time though. I'll just post all the Camel skins I made for now so everyone can use them. One thing; did the no.209 sqn RAF have roundels on the fusalage sides or no. What I've read so far had no confirmation on that. Anybody know. I can always post the skin w rounels and users can delete the decal if they want .

Here are some more. With a couple of 209sqn. RAF

I guess I need to look at the decal tutorial. How do you find the position of the decal on the skin template?????. And I would need to create 16 wheel cover decals. 16 in black, 16 red and 16 blue right? Thks p10ppy. I have my work cut out for me on this one . Just skinning is time consuming enough, and now this! sigh! Anyway I think I got the skins all worked out for the no.10 sqd RNAS Camels.

Thanks everybody! You guys know your stuff. I think I have enough info for now. I'll post all three flights with white wheel discs. Than I'll post four Camels for each flight with markings on the wheels. Like I said before, I'm not sure if I can get the game to generate the wheel disc markings. So for now I'll just make the ones with personal markings seperate. There will be: "A" Flight Camels w white wheels + 4 more w markings "B" Flight Camels w white wheels + 4 more w markings "C" Flight Camels w white wheels + 4 more w markings Thats a lot of Camels. Hope you like'em. Took a long time to make I'm also doing a new version of the RAF 209sqn Camels with the red and white tails and red striped upper wings. Its been done before but not for this version of the game. Also some no.9 RNAS soon. Again thks evrybody

How about this. Let me know if this seems right. I was able to find a flight line photo of "A" flight. Their stripes didnt go all the way around.

Lots of good info there bucky. As you can see I already made the skins. So I already did the stripes all the way around the nose. I've seen renderings done both ways. I dont know whats correct. As far as the lettering goes I can make the A B C letterng permenant on the fuselage and just remove it in the decal file. I didnt know about A flight using only "A" and B flight using "B" etc. Thks for that. what about the top wing lettering and the underside of the bottom wing lettering? Did No.10sq use these letters in these positions? Are there any photos of any No.10 RNAS Camels? I havent seen any. Should I change the nose stripes or leave the ones I made?

Anybody have a good flight model config. for the SE5a. I have exp pack and the latest patches but my SE5a still flies side ways. Tail goes way to the left then way to the right. Mostly with AI. I tried the anti slip patch for the SE5 but still have this problem. Any ideas on how to fix?

Thanks Heck, Ill try it out.

Hey p10ppy what do you mean "decal" the wheels. You mean do them myself (which I already did), or make the game generate them? Is that possible? That would be great if it is. Seems like it would take some time though.

Thks everybody for your input. I'll tell ya, its hard getting the stripes to line up on the Camels cowel. Took me for ever. But they're lookin good. The white fuselage stripe in the middle is supposed to angle aft at the top on the no.10 Sq Camels. That I know. But thats right where the fuselage tappers and gets distorted. It was really taking too long to get it right. So for now I made just straight lines. Still looks good. Hope thats ok with you guys? Oh and thks LloydNB, I did use your wheel disc decals. Had to make them a little bigger but they worked great. I Just dont know the right shade of blue for "C" Flight. Look at the photo and tell me what you guys think. Have a look.

I have downloaded all the flight model patches. But hardly any of my planes fly right. Even my Fokker Dr1 flight characteristics have changed. There are soo many awsome planes in this game but only a third of them work right. When is this going to be fixed. I mean really fixed. In a patch. Because it reall kills this game. I'm tired of constantly fixing things. I hardly ever get to play. My S.E.5a still flies sidways, and others still have severe stalls and crash. And others have horrible rudder control. Including my favorite Dr.1. I have installed all the new flight models but they dont change much. And all the bombers fly as fast as the fighters. Cant even catch up to them. Some two seaters are more manuverable than the fighters. Sorry to complain, but the game needs lots of work if its to get more players I think. I understand people are putting their own time into this game. Cheers to them all. I just think this game has soo much potential. It's just all over the place right now. Too many things to fix. we need a GOOD patch! I would like to skin other planes. But I cant use them. Sorry to bitch. I hate to see a good game with so many problems. You dont see to many good WWI simms out there. This one could be one of the best.

File Name: Fokker Dr.1's with removed markings File Submitter: quack74 File Submitted: 14 Dec 2008 File Category: WW1 Aircraft Some Fokker Dr.1 skins made by quack74 were made before the October patch and had permanent markings. I removed the markings so the Dr.1's can now use the game generated markings. This download includes All those Dr.1 skins Clean. NO markings. Just copy and paste the new files. Overwrite when asked. Click here to download this file

File Name: Fixed "N" on J12 Besser download File Submitter: quack74 File Submitted: 14 Dec 2008 File Category: WW1 Aircraft This patch will fix the reversed "N" on the J12 Besser Fokker Dr.1 skin from the Jasta 12 skin pack download made by quack74. If you have not noticed, the "N" on the starboard side is reversed. Woops Click here to download this file