Typhoid, I'm on a couple of other flight sim forums. PM me if you want. Retired off the The Big E in 93 while she was in drydock an Newport News, right before sea trials, after having her reactors replaced/overhauled.
"Among us dark blue suit Sailors, when the fire alarm goes off we all run TO the blazing conflagration, put the d@mn thing out, and wait for the profesional firefighters to show up and finish the paperwork.....". Reminds me when my bro-in-law were staying with my grandmother's for a few days in Dec. 97, we drove down to Laguna Beach from S.F. bay area so he could talk to a couple of fishing boat captains out of San Pedro Harbor. He was a commercial fisherman in the Bering Sea for almost twenty years. Anyway, we had fallen asleep on her couches and her fire alarm went off at about 4 am. We both jumped up and burst through her bedroom door, breaking it off of the door jamb. Scared the crap out of her. Upshot was no fire, she said the thing goes off all of the time and if there had been a fire she would have called 911 and we should have gone outside. Told her it was reaction to training. Still do it today, certain things happen and you go into autopilot and react or prevent the situation. It does not go away. Well, we spent the day installing a new door jamb/door and fire alarm.
Sound like a long string of events led to this catastophy. Where were the LPO's/LCPO's in charge of these spaces? If unauthorized storage of flammables is what caused this, then this is where the final break in the chain of command happened. I find it hard to believe that some hard charging Seaman or 3rd class would have let this pass unless the folks in charge had a cavalier attitude about cleanliness. I seem to remember Chiefs and Firsts who could spot a speck of dust on the topside of the electrical conduits in a dimly light passageway. Were the safety teams doing their daily walkthrough inspections?
What about the documentation for the disposal of flammable materials? Sorry to say but, cavalier attitudes start at the top. It's just the breakdown is usually somewhere between the top and bottom of the ladder. This is why I'm sure that after the investigation/board of inquiry is over, there is going to be enough pain to go around. I hate to say it, but, the guy/gal that started it probable hauled a$$. Hopefully someone saw this person. I would not like to think this person would go unscathed.
You guys are right tho. Our ships and crews can take a lot more and still complete their mission. It would take an awful lot of firepower to get to a CV. Tho' I'm sure those two soviet AC jolted someones jockstrap the other week with a CV flyover and no intercept. I'll bet someone heard about that.
Speaking about cleanliness, when I was aboard the Mt Hood, we were just notified an hour before liberty call that ComLogGru One was coming aboard at 0800. So needless to say, we know what happened next. Yep, liberty was secured until further notice. Anyway, I was OI Div LPO at the time, so 03-05 levels and the winch decks were my responsiblity. I actually had this 3rd class, 6 mos A school wonder, total TIS 18 mos, tell me I was lucky, I didn't know what it was like to have to scrub decks/bulkheads, etc... I asked him do you think I came in the Navy as a 1st class. I told him I came in the hard way, E-1 started out on deck force on the Saratoga, now get the F$$K back to work. Can't talk like that now. It's the new Navy again. Didn't we go through that Admiral Zumwalt and his infamous Z-grams already?
Just my thoughts.
Anyway, take care,
C2