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Yes, was sadly disappointed to see there is no MP at present in WOFF. Was curious as to whether or not some of the old missions we flew in OFF might still play in WOFF, but after digging out the missions and putting them in the WOFF directory, found there is no executable for a MP session. Am still glad I could make a contribution to the dev's efforts on this, lord knows they deserve it, but was really hoping to play some WOFF MP.

hmmmm.....unless I am missing something,,,,I don't think we can play this in MP. There is no executable that I can find, and when I copied the old cfs3mp.exe over from BHAH the game did not work........

downloading it now VB. Going to take a while to get everything set up....as I remeber it, the config settings in this are a bear. But if for no other reason than to be able to catch up with you guys, would love to try to see what MP looks like. Hopefully the old HITR missions will still play on WOFF. We have seveal options for TS. We can use the ROF one (rub it in their noses....), and I have a server running.

lol...wow..almost 2 years since a post here! am optimistic P4 is close to being released. And as the dev's have always made it clear it was never their intention of making OFF a multiplayer game, doubt that much was done to improve on the issues that multiplayer had. But am willing to put some time into it to see just how well it plays when it is released. Probably won't be till after the holidays thou.

As i remeber right, issues in MP where slight until you added human AI. From watching the release video, don;t think coop MP (human vrs ai) would be a waste of anyones time. I will be buying phase 4, and would not hurt to start some sort of list of pilots who want to engage in some MP once it comes out. Might be prudent to find out if mission made for phase 3 will work in phase 4. But let's not condemn it until we see what we have...

Have been watching for the release of Phase 4. Will definatly pick it up, and am interrested in seeing how MP goes on it.

Its been so long can't remeber for sure, but MB might have been an addon. Anyways, here is a link to the page to get it from MS. http://www.microsoft.com/games/combatfs3/cfs3_sdk.aspx#missionsdk You want to get the Cfs3mb10.msi file. Once you install it, you should have a shortcut for MB in start>all programs>CFS3 Mission Builder. One big quirk about MB is that if you locate the MB.exe in explorer, and click on it, or if you try and make another shortcut using MB.exe, MB will crash. You can make a shortcut on the desktop from the intallation shortcut (if that made sense) and it will work.....

That links to a file on your computer, not something on the web, so unless you deleted the file (or folder), the info should be there. I dont have OFF on this computer, but I do have cfs3, and its the same help file. the location of the help file for me is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator 3\mb\help\helppage.htm. So if you navigate to where you installed cfs3, and locate the helppage.htm file and open it, it will give you the tuturial. Most helpfull part for me has always been the "Tuturial: Calais Cleanup" at the end

start>all programs>over flanders fields>over flanders fields mission builder There are some posts in the MP forum that give some help with specific topics for Mission builder. In general, its not that hard.

not sure if this is going to help, but try right clicking on the executable, and a: run as administator, b: select properties, and set the compatibility to run in xp

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Any errors, anything that you feel does not make sense to you, anything you feel should be included please let me know. While I do apologize for the amount of information being offered here, appreciate that it is an attempt to offer a gude for all aspects of Multi Player. UPDATE Be sure you have the latest patchs installed http://www.overfland...m/Downloads.htm CURRENT MULTIPLAYER CONFIGURATION These is the latest patch and Mods that need to be installed to join in scheduled multiplayer games. Whenever possible I will provided links, or the files themselves. Latest patch: 1.32 SuperPatch. The download page (see link above) will also list the latest minipatch for the 1.32 superpatch. MadMats installer http://forum.combata...attach_id=33784 This will install both the gotha and the zepplin aircraft, as well as install other files, such as searchlites, for some of the missions we fly. It also puts some of the more popular mission into your mission folder. TEAMSPEAK Get teamspeak!!!!!!!!!!!. . http://teamspeak.com/?page=downloads All you need is the TeamSpeak 3 client And the optional teamspeak overlay http://ts3overlay.r-dev.de/ For vista users: Find your teamspeak shortcut on your desktop Right click, select "Run as" and select Administrator. Right click again, go to properties, In the Compatibility tab, run in WinXP SP2 Compatibility Mode Check "Disable Visual Themes" and "Disable Desktop Composition" only. Click Apply then OK Do the same for your teamspeak overlay. Note: vista users, you may have to run the installer in xp compatibilty mode Even if you do not have a microphone, you will be able to hear the other pilots, and the teamspeak interface allowes for text chat, so if you are having problems, you can communicate with the people helping you. At present, there are no TS Servers for OFF MP that I know of. Once phase 4 arrives, and if some sessions start getting put up, I will update this with TS addresses and passwords Once teamspeak is installed and started, Click on connections, then select connect. Right click on servers, and select "add server" Select the "new server" you just created, and enter the following: label: Whatever you want to identify that server as. Be sure "Auto Reconnect" is selected WalMart has a nice combo Headphones and Mic. They are located in the computer section with the webcams VISTA USERS Navigate to c:\obd software\cfswwi over flanders fields and find your cfs3mp.exe. Right click on it, and select "run as" selct administrator Right click on it again, go to properties. select the compatibilty mode, and set it to run in widows xp Do the same thing for your OFFmanger.ex MULTIPLAY-JOINING GAMES NOTE: Most everything from here on is for phase 3. Will not know if changes are necessary until phase 4 is released. NOTE: Due to some issues that have occured in mulitplayer, we are recommending everyone enter multiplayer games thru the off manager. It has been established that a person Hosting a multiplayer mission game must enter thru the off manager to avoid some problems that occur in game play. While it has not been established that a player joining a mp game, and not entering the game thru the off manger will effect the other players game play, it is still recommend that if at all possible, enter thru the off manager. I will leave the rest of the section on joining games up until such time it is determined that it should be removed. There are two methods of entering Multiplay. One is thru the offmanager, and the other is thru a shortcut to the cfs3mp.exe Off manager method. Click on your overflandersfields shorcut on your desktop...At first screen, click on workshop, and in workshop, verify that you have the latest patch installed (version is in lower right corner). Exit workshop, and from the options at the bottom, select multiplayer. Next screen is Active Pilot for Multiplayer. Unless this is a campaign mission all you have to do at this screen is hit start/fly at the bottom Next screen is Over Flanders Fields WWl Initialising. At this point the off mange has just started up your cfs3mp.exe. After it finishes loading you should be at the window with 2 medals, one mission, one multiplayer. If you have "movie ui" disabled in your overides section of cfs3config, your background will be the wwi initialising screen. If you dont have "movie ui" disabled, you will get a screen shot of a plane on a field. Note that when you have "movie ui" disabled, it also removes airfields off of the in game map, so its recommeneded that you leave that enabled in cfs3config overides section. *** Quick note. If you enter thru the cfs3mp.exe, there will be occaisions when you will only get the one mission medal. Exit the game, and start the game up again using the overflandersfields shortcut. When you get to this point, (the 2 medals) exit the game entirely, and restart with the cfs3mp.exe. You should now have the multiplayer medal back. The rest is the same no matter how you enter mp, so skip down to JOINING A DOGFIGHT OR A TEAM DOGFIGHT Cfs3mp.exe shortcut method. Open windows explorer and navigate to c:\obd software\cfswwl Over Flanders Fields.(assuming you installed into the default directory) Find your cfs3mp.exe (not your cfs3.exe). right click on it, and select send to > destop (create shortcut) Get back to your desktop and dbl click the cfs3mp.exe shortcut you just created. This should bring you directly to a screen with 2 medals, one mission, one multiplayer. If you do not have the mutilplayer ribbon (a common occurance), follow the steps above for off manger method up to the *** and exit the game completly. Restart with the cfs3mp.exe shortcut and you should have the multiplayer medal JOINING A DOGFIGHT OR A TEAM DOGFIGHT Before joining a game, click on the hanger dropdown in the upper left. Click on the multiplayer option. For connection Type select T1. Location type is optional, Not sure if has any bearing on gameplay. In Call sign for lan games enter whatever you want to appear for your handle in the mp game. For the pilot, at this point you dont have to select a pilot. However, in the future, for online mission play, there may be a reason to have mp pilots that all have the same active date as the rest of the pilots flying the mission. Hit ok, and close the hanger dropdown. Click on the multiplayer medal. Click on Join Private Game. .Enter the ip of the game being hosted. This should have been provided in the mp forum from the host. If it is a team dogfight, the next window is where you select your side,,,,axis or allies. If it is a just a dogfight then you go right into the enter game window. If everything goes right, you should see a "loading" message Once the MP game loads the next window has the name of the hosted game and there is a change aircraft button and a start button. Select whatever plane you want to fly, and hit start. IMPORTANT: if you are in a team dogight and selceted allied,,,,be sure you select an allied plane, and visa versa for axis. Once in the game, if you get shot down, or crash, you get taken back to the Enter game window. If you want to change planes you do it here, and enter start again. If during game play, you happen to get shot down and/or crash, and do not respawn automatically, hit ctr+shift+K. This should "kill" you and take you back to the enter game window. If you dont have teamspeak, and are in a game, c button brings up the chat window. Type a message and hit enter. As the text messages do not stay up that long, ctl+shft+S brings up a chat window that shows all the text posts and stays in view till closed. JOINING A MISSION If the host is running a mission, there is more to entering the game than a simple dogfight. There is no way i could explain this better than pd's mp mission tuturial. The url to this is here... http://sim-outhouse....read.php?t=2636 In addition to the above information, PD's Multiplayer tuturial, along with some other good information can be found here http://www.wingsofho...ngserversforoff Note Pd made all of this before the 1.32 Super Patch came out, so some of the screens are different. The screen shots in the tuturial do an excellent job of explaining the steps in joining a Muliplayer Mission. It is pretty much a must read for new players Campaigns Joining a Campaign Mission The only difference between joining a campaign mission, and a mission built with mission builder is the need to overide the Date. This assures that everyone in the Campaign mission sees the same weather. Start thru Off Mangager, and select Multiplayer. That will bring you to the Active Pilot For Multiplayer window, The Host of the game will provide you with a specific date for the campaign mission being flown, and that must be entered into the "OVERIDE TIME PERIOD". Hit start/fly. The Off Manger will then set the weather to whatever it was for that specific date. HOSTING PORT FORWARDING If you want to host, you have to forward ports. As all routers and modems are different, all i will include here are the ports that need to be forwarded, and a simple explanation of what I do when someone needs help portforwarding their router....Also, if you have a cable or dsl modem that has a firewall built in, you may also have to forward the ports in the modem. You will have to go to the homepage of your isp provider for getting the proceedure. Ports that need to be forwared 2300 to 2300 in udp 28883 to 28887 in udp In order to portforward the router, you will need to access it thru a web browser. If you have put a username/password on the router, you will have to have that information available. You will also need your internal IP. To get this, open up a command promt, (start>run>cmd), and type in ipconfig. All you need here is your IP Address. It will be in the 192.168.x.x format. If you have a 2Wire, or some AT&T routers, you will need to know your Computers Name. XP users,,find your My Computer icon, right click, select properties,,computer name tab. Vista users, I belive the icon is just called Computer. With all the above information handy, go to www.portforward.com. You will see a list of routers. Select your router by Make/model, and the next page gives you a list of games. BHAH nor CFS3 are on the list, but Microsoft Flight Simulator X is, so select that game. Next page will bring you to the setup instructions for portforwarding the game for msfsx. The ports are different, but the proceedure is exactly the same. Note: You will see a little blurb at the top of the instructions for getting a static IP. I highly recommend you skip this step. Read thru thorouly the setup instructions, to get aquainted with all the steps you will need to go thur before you start to actually change the ports on your router. Remeber, you are only forwarding the ports I listed above, do NOT forward the ports as per the instuctions for MSFSX. they are different from what you need for BHAH. If it looks like something you do not want to tackle on your own, just put up a post in the mp section of the forum, and someone will be glad to help you thru it. Once you have forwarded your ports, it is always a good idea to check to see if your settings are correct. Great utility for this made by the people at portforward.com is the port checker utility. It can be downloaded here: http://bhah.homeip.net:192/inbox/PFPortChecker.exe HOSTING Before hosting a game, go to www.whatsmyipaddress.com and get your ip. Write it down. Although crl+h allows a host to get their ip once the game has started, sometimes it reports it as all 0's and sometimes it reports it as the internal ip (192.168.xxx.x) And, If you have your ip before hosting, you can post the ip in the forum, start up your game, and dont have to alt+tab out of the game to get back to the forum and post,. Read ovs's post in the sticky section of the mp forum for what information should be included when hosting a game and posting it in the forum. And we now have our own calander. If you are planning to host a game for a session for a later date, click on the calander link at the top of the forum page, find the dropdown link at the bottom of the page and selct Over Flanders MultiPlayer calander, and make an entry in the date you plan to host a session. Use either of the 2 methods(off manager or cfs3mp.exe shortcut) to get to the multiplayer medal can click on it. Select the host game option, and you will get the HOST GAME flyout. First thing you have to do is choose what type of game you are going to host. DOGFIGHT GAME If you click on location, you can change the start location of the game, the altitude, and weather. If you click on realism, you can make several changes to how the game is played. This is strictly up to the host, so will not make any suggestions here except to make weapons strongest. Change "game is over in" to 25 games Aircraft start within....suggest you leave this at one mile. Limit respawns to: suggest you leave this at 0 Aircraft restrictions; Leave this alone. This is covered in the ADDONS section. Hit next. Enter a name for your game, and a description of the game. DESELCT "Publish my game in the cfs directory" Password protect is self explanatory, and number of players is a host option. Usually you would bring it up as high as it will go. Quick note: I have noticed that sometimes the max number of players will only go up to 4, other times it is higher. No idea why t his happens. Click on start game, if everything goes right, you should get the loading message, and the rest is the same as joining a game. TEAM DOG FIGHT Same as above, except now there is a TEAM IMBALANCE option. Self explanatory MISSION Again, same as above, but now the mission drop down is available, as well as an option "allow players to change aircraft" Select which mission you want to fly. For the rest of this, pds tuturial does the best job. http://sim-outhouse....read.php?t=2636 Editing settings in the "Hanger" drop down When you are at the window with the 2 Medals, mission and multiplayer, there should be a Hanger drop down in the upper right of your screen. If not, the escape key should bring it down. Click on the multiplayer option from the list. Change the connection type to T1, and in the box "call sign for lan players" enter whatever name you want to show up for you in the game. You can also edit your sound settings with the sound option in the hanger drop down. This will overide any settings you may have made to sound in the workshop, but they will only apply to the game you are playing. So if you constangly find yourself turning down engine sounds you may want to consider turning down the engine sound in workshop, which will get applied to all your games. Most players find they have to turn engine sound down to at least 30 to be able to hear ppl on teamspeak over the sound of the planes engines. Find whatever setting is best for you. Sound settings can be accessed and edited while in a game by hitting escape, and going into the hanger drop down. EXITING A GAME To get out of a game, hit escape to bring up the hanger drop down, and exit from there FINDING GAMES Games that are schedule in advance are entered into the Over Flanders Fields Calander. Find the calander link in the upper right of the forum page, and open it up. At the bottome of the page, find the drop down for specific calanders, and select over flanders fields multiplayer calander. Sessions that have been scheduled will appear on those date. Clicking on a date will bring up more information about the session. In addidtion to the calander, multiplayer games are also posted in the Multiplayer section of the forum. here is a link to the calander, if you want to bookmark it http://forum.combata...r&cal_id=2&m=&y= ADDON AIRCRAFT The requirements with addon aircraft for mp games are simple. Any and all aircraft in the host's aircraft dirctory MUST be also be in a pilot's directory if they are trying to join the game. If not, the person trying to join gets a mismatched aircraft message. Note that it does not make a difference what addons a pilot joining a game has. This will not cause a mismatch. The occurance of this problem has been minimzed since the introduction of matmats installer, which puts the addons we currently use into your folder for you. ERROR MESSAGES This section is a work in progress. As other players give input it will be updated. Connection fail...make sure you are connected to the internet and the host name is correct. If you get this message when either trying to host or join a game, and you know your connection is good, it is sometimes necessary to hit escape to get the hanger dropdown, hit end game, and hit join or host again. I have had to do this alot over and over before i could get a game to start or join. Its not a game problem, its an internet issue. Mismatched aircraft . If you are getting this message, make sure you and the host are patched to the same version of off3, and that everyone has the same Damage Model installed. Make sure the host has no addon aircraft in their dirctory that you do not have FOV (field of view) The latest patch (1.32 super patch) adds a FOV setting into the workshop. Will try and quickly explain how superpatch and new options apply to mp pilots If a pilot changes fov settings in workshop, then they will modify the xdp files in their aircraft folder, and cause a mismatch when joining a game. It does not make a difference if everyone has the same fov setting. Its the time the files where created that causes the mismatch. The superpatch puts new folders in your obd software\wwi scenery folder. The default folder contains aircraft files that are stock to the superpatch. The offline folder contains aircraft files that you want to use for single player The online folder contains aircraft files that you want to use for mp. After installing superpatch, only folder that has any files is default. In workshop, lower left, there are new settings that contoll what files get into the online craft and offline craft folders, and how these files are loaded into the game. Reduced: 75% of original size [ 1280 x 1024 ] - Click to view full image As of this time, mp pilots who DONT change their fov settings for single person games should follow this Click on "restore off default", say yes at the promt. when it is finished, it will ask if you want to back up as offline, and then it will ask if you want to back up as online, Say yes to both. Now you have the default aircraft files in all your folders. Check "Auto MP Control OFF", and check "never autobackup offline" As long as you dont fiddle with fov,,you will be ok. As I do not change FOV settings for single player games, I hesitate trying to put proceedure here for making sure you avoid mismatches in mp. TRACKIR If your trackir works in qc or campain, but does not work in mp, make sure you have the latest drivers. Current version right now is ver 4.1 build 36 Vista users. If you still dont have trackir in mp games, find the shorcut for trackir on your desktop. Right click on it, and selct "run as" Select administrator MISSION BUILDER If you have gotten the hang of multiplayer games, and want to start building your own mission, use the start>all programs> over flanders fields > mission builder Will not attempt to explain mission building here, but if you click the ? in the mb main window, at the bottonm of the help there is a calais walkthru, which is very good.

No problem. I dont drink, and I dont smoke.....whats the chance of getting a woman?

Burning Beard this is a fix for w7 and multiplayer. this is from the over flanders fields faq section Q5M. Windows 7 comes up with errors in Multiplayer. A5M. Microsoft posted a fix for a similar issue in article KB555608. Also check out this thread on Sim-Outhouse. Basically simply rename oleacc.dll to oleaccold.dll in the "CFS3WW1 OverFlandersFields" folder. This file is very old and causes a problem loading MP. Renaming it makes Windows use it's own newer version of that dll held elsewhere. You may need to make CFS3MP.exe and CFS3.exe set to "run as administrator" or XP SP3 compatibility mode (or both - experiment). Right click on each of those programs and go to properties to reach the Compatibiity settings.

.If you have win7, there is a dll file you have to delete for MP to work (but dont think it gave the error you have)... http://www.overflandersfields.com/FAQ.htm#A5M its question q5m one thing i noticed that seemed odd, is that your install should have the imguix.dll in two places....one is in your cfsww1 over flanders field directory, and the other is in cfsww1over flanders field\mb folder (thats the mission builder folder). But in my install, they have different dates. might not hurt to rename your imguix.dll in your cfsww1 over flanders fields directory, and replace it with mine. http://bhah.homeip.net:192/BHAH%20COMMON/imguix.dll

If you can take a screenshot of that window showing what you are getting, ane post it, it would be a help.

Tippers,,,was wondering if you got squared away. did a search on that imguix box, and there are some posts that say you can get a virus, and it overwrites that file. at any rate, suggest going to www.malwarebytes.org, and getting their free scanner. and, you can go to http://www.dll-files-download.com/I/2008-01-13/7300.html, and get a new imguix.dll file.

hi, pm pageturner. He's across the ditch from you, and belive he is still sending out disks.

lol..ok...took notice

Id love to say yes winston, but flying sats and sundays during the day has always been a bear for me. Wanted to give both hosts equal support, so tried to make both sessions.

bummer lou.... id be lost without ghost,,,,backs up all my computers at 2am....but that aint gonna help you... if this is the case,,im sure you have thought about it,,but if its a sata drive,,,did you check your bios settings?

lol..ok...one more shot,,then im gonna sick uncleal on you ...(as in...did you read my post???) you CAN NOT click on the mb.exe in explorer,,,it wont work... you CAN NOT right click on the mb.exe in explorer,,and use send to desktop,,create shortcut... you CAN use the shortcut that was put into the game when you installed it,,,in xp its start>all programs>over flanders fields>mission builder...(not sure how that works in vista) it will work.. you CAN make a short cut of the ABOVE shortcut,,and send it to the desktop,,and it will work... so,,,right now,,the ONLY way you have to get into MB, is to use the start>programs thing,,,,,,(pic one) you can make a shorcut of the shortcut....(pic2)

there is a funny thing about mb....you can run it from the shortcut the game puts in during the install (start>programs>over flanders fields>mission builder and,,if you make a shortcut to the desktop from that shortcut, it will work.....but,,if you make your own shortcut (ie..click on mb.exe in explorer. and make a shortcut on the desktop), or even click on the mp.exe in explorer,,,you get that error... but,,if that doesnt fix the problem,,here is a link to mine.... http://bhah.homeip.net:192/inbox/jpeg.dll it goes into the root of the over flanders fields folder cool...you gonna do some missions?? another quirk about mission building,,,(although pd will disagree with me about this...),,,you can not assign a goal directly to a facility you place in the mission. if you do,,the mission will crash when you try and run it.. see this post....http://forum.combatace.com/topic/46859-please-tell-me-it-wasnt-this-easy/ and one more thing,,,the mission will show up in your folder based on what you put in the "title" box...(in briefing and start goals section) not as what you save the mission as...