Olham

Getting in there is possible with some finesse - getting out again is the problem,

Gaw, with your res you must select 16 : 10 at the left side in "Workshops", and one of these FOV variants below. (FOV = FIELD OF VIEW; in the lower right half of "Workshops") They are all correct for your res., only the smaller numbers zoom you more in, and the higher numbers more out; personally I run 24 : 15; I have the same res.). 24 : 15 26 : 16 27 : 17

I'm glad you're back and better, gaw! Enjoy it!

That's what I was going to say, HPW! The difference may be, that the guns in the Kindergarten are more modern. Mmuahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!

Good ones, boys! Personally, I like this one:

Hey, you always find something new in OFF, don't you? Now let's come to the next important question: what sort of liquor might be in that large box next to the mechanic?

"Iss ziss ze Western Front, or a Kindergarten?!?!" (Roland D.VI ! Roland D.VI ! Roland D.VI!!!)

Just found this (again) - enjoy at least the pictures: http://www.adlershof...e_Leseprobe.pdf ...and this great site about Berlin Johannisthal and the early meetings of aviators 1909: http://johflug.de/index_swf.swf .

There was a huge Army Training Area at St.Omer in 1918. Interesting to see, what they all had special areas for.

..sometimes there are moments of peace...

I understand your thoughts so well, Flyby, and I guess, there are many others here, who feel the same. The deep respect for craftmanship and handcrafted things, which work reliably. And the idea to build something yourself, to see how far you can get. Us men have that deep in us, after all our evolution, we still want to create something with our own hands - something that would make us proud. It started with weapons and tools; and it is still in us. A hovercraft may be something with a certain danger potential, so if you ever build one - why not build a smaller version first - a big test model?

Damn, that S.E.5a in pic 2 and 3 looks good! Is it an OFF ace skin, monkey, or an own skinning job?

Yep, small round trips may be cheaper - or prices have gone up that much.

Yes, and many of the pilots today still do the same. I would guess, that in a wide country like Finnland there should be some pilots to ask? In my homeland Ostfriesland you can make a round flight over the Eastfreesian Islands for ca. 60,- Euro.

I don't know what you mean, shredward? The thread "Test Pilot's Report about the German Fighter Roland D.VI" is still there. Did you zapp an older Roland D.VI thread perhaps? I had made one with some pics, but that was some time ago - not sure if I find the stuff again. Ah, sorry - you mean this link - I had sent it yesterday. Here it comes again. http://www.thomasgen...oland_d_vi.html .

Yes, those are the nice sides of it. On the other hand, hardly anyone could afford an aircraft then, I guess? Here is an announcement for a flying contest held at the openening of Johannisthal, and my attempt to translate it. The names list is the Creme de la Creme of early aviation. Under the protectorate of the Kaiserlicher Automobil-Club of the Berlin Airshipping Association of the Kaiserlicher Aero-Club Flying Contest of the first aviators of the world Berlin-Johannisthal-Adlershof from 26 September to 3 October 1909 daily from 10 (?) h until sunset Severela prizes of honour 160000 Mark cash prizes The prizes will be competet for daily (Names List) Entrance fees from 1 Mark to 15 Mark For week tickets considerable reductions Further information - especially about one-day and weekly box seats - at the booking offices A. Wertheim GmbH* and Invalidendank** * A. Wertheim GmbH was a big famous Berliner big store company ** Invalidendank (Thank the Disabled) was an assiciation which helped disabled (esp. soldiers) to get a work place / job. It was financed from collections and donations. One job was the selling of tickets in the streets. "Invalidendank" got it's share from each ticket sold.

Indeed, Hasse Wind - it always touches me to see, how much simpler everything was handled back then. That spirit, the optimism, that innocence you see in the faces of the people. Yes, CaptSopwith, 2009 the place got 100 years old. Unfortunately there is not much left of it. The airfield Johannisthal was introduced as the first German aerodrome for motorised aircraft on 26 September 1909.

Such reports are interesting to read. This one, from 4 August 1920, shows that the Roland D.VI seems to have been better than the late Albatros versions. The test pilot compares her to the Fokker D.VII (!). http://www.internetmodeler.com/references/roland_dvib.pdf

Gaw, I almost suffer with you, old chap. But you're right, it's totally worth it. How easily do we spend the same bucks on pizza and coke. If you buy it again, zip it and make yourself a copy on another hard drive, a stick, or an external drive. I wish you good success!

I still have to laugh - sorry, guys!

Here is more from the craft on the website of Thomas Genth. (There is also more two-seater stuff for you, Hasse Wind). http://www.thomasgenth.de/html/lfg_roland_d_vi.html

Just checked, but didn't find more references for WW1 craft there, Lou. But perhaps we should search for reports by test pilot Lieutenant Moriarty?

Lou, please report, if you find more such stuff - had no time yet to check. Naaaaaw, Hasse Wind, naw - not a hint. Just an idea, I'd say... - ... a good idea, yeah. In fact it would be a very good idea! They call this a hint, don't they? I guess it is one. LIMA, that Roland D.VI makes my mouth water and my pilot heart jump! One day we may have them in OFF, too. But not so soon, I'm afraid.

That's also true, I think. The French will now get the early Morane-Saulnier. Apart from those early Morane types I don't see another French fighter missing anymore. But I hope they will also get one or two of the many two-seater types they had, like the Caudron or the Breguet. The British will get another good fighter with the Snipe. I wonder what we Germans will be given - a Siemens-Schuckert D.III or D.IV would be great, or a Roland D.II, D.III or D.VI.

Yes, I had understood that. Will do. No, there is no German bias - I had sometimes seen it exactly the other way round, but I guess, they tried to balance it. As the Albatros productionwise was a main aircraft (the Messerschmidt Bf 109 of WW1 so to say), they had to create all versions, as they were always in service in great numbers. Here are the fighters each nationality can fly in OFF so far - you see, that the Germans are not biased (much rather the British): BRITISH Bristol Scout Sopwith Strutter 1B1 FE2b Airco DH-2 Nieuport 11 Sopwith Pup Nieuport 16 Nieuport 17 Lewis Bristol F2b Sopwith Triplane SPAD VII Nieuport 24 Lewis DH-5 S.E.5a S.E.5a Viper Sopwith Camel GERMAN Fokker E.III Roland C.II Halberstadt D.II Albatros D.II Albatros D.III Albatros D.V Fokker Dr.1 Pfalz D.IIIa Albatros D.Va Albatros D.Va 200 Fokker D.VII Fokker E.V Foker D.VII F FRENCH Nieuport 11 Nieuport 16 Sopwith Strutter 1B1 Nieuport 17 SPAD VII Nieuport 24 SPAD XIII AMERICAN Nieuport 17 Nieuport 28 SPAD VII Sopwith Camel SPAD XIII