Olham

Rudolf Berthold FFA 23 Jasta 4, 14, 18 JG II KEK Vaux Berthold joined the infantry in 1910 and learned to fly by the end of 1913. When the war began, he transferred to the German Air Service as an observer. In 1916, he began flying single-seat fighters with KEK Vaux and was credited with five victories before crashing a Pfalz E.IV on 25 April 1916. Injured and wounded several times throughout the war, Berthold earned a reputation for returning to duty before he had fully recovered. In August, he formed Jasta 4 before turning command over to Hans Buddecke. Berthold then assumed command of Jasta 14 until badly injured in an accident on 23 May 1917. Recovering from a broken nose, fractured skull, thigh and pelvis, he returned to duty the following August and assumed command of Jasta 18. He was wounded again on 10 October 1917 when a bullet shattered his right arm. When he returned to duty, he assumed command of Jagdgeschwader 2, remaining in command until wounded on 10 August 1918. Credited with downing two D.H.4s that day, his career as a fighting pilot ended when his crippled red and blue Fokker D.VII crashed into a house after colliding with his second opponent. Murdered by rioters in 1920, some sources claim Berthold was strangled with the ribbon from his Blue Max. "Honoured by his enemies, slain by his German brethren." Inscription on Rudolf Berthold's headstone

Well, if the mods don't close it, you guys might as well stop answering each other. It is obvious, that you have a very different oppinion about all this, and that is your very democratic right. But I don't believe, you will convince each other, and then, what it will become, is a kind of war. Your oppinions are made clear and can be read still. I thought we had come to the conclusion, that beliefs (religions) and politics should be kept out of here, because they inevitably lead to confrontations and often to hard words. And this question is more or less political - political about social and juristic aspects, and about military actions or wars. Please stop this yourself - we don't need the moderators for it, do we?

And I think there is even the good old "Quick Combat" in workshop? Directly to start from there, giving you a menue for choice of airfield, wheather, altitude, aircraft etc.? Or is that gone since the later patches - not sure. Try it out, Nordo. Ooops! Reading all again, I think, that's what Pol meant anyway. Gnihihihiii!!!

Thank you, Ras and Gous - but I just captured them. The beauty and variety we find in OFF is created by Winder and Co. And it never fails to amaze me again.

Siggy, in that point Stiffy is right I find: that the 2-seater victories should remain. My German guys do it this way, that we "transfer" the pilot by changing only the squadron line in the pilot dossier file. So he is then Jasta 6 pilot, but keeps his victories, claims and medals. I think, in reality, they would also have kept them, right?

Perhapps he iss a last survivor off ze Dsherrmann Geheimwaffe for plan "Schildkröte". Vee had trained 100 tortoizes, too attack der bootz of der British trench soldiers, too make water get in zere ant make zeir life complicated. Ze plan wass after all dropped, cause ze tortois iss juszt too slow, ant zey all got cooked a famousz British soup, vizz Sherry. Ze Crumpetz eat anyssink! Tch!

Olham... - ahhm - Jeschonnek is back! See "Krauts & Crumpets" thread. This was a glorious day for FA(A) 250 - me and my observer shot down 4 B.E. 2c and one Airco DH-2.

Boys in the danger zone - I keep my fingers crossed for you all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNOvmmTawsA Enjoy!

Duce, for test flying, you need to create a special test pilot, not to loose your campaign pilot. Mine is called "Flieger Test Dummy", so I can't use him wrongly. Sorry for yours. Yes, I still find that the wings break too easily on the Albatros. She can't have been that bad.

Okay, I'll get my "wilde Horde" informed next minute, Siggi! Have a nice sunday.

Wow - does look like a "Firecage" indeed!

Duce, avoid steep diving or hard pulling out of a dive - the lower wings are fragile there, although they have added a little stabilizer on the D V a and the 200 PS versions. The 200 has good power. She's a rugged plane with good ammo - 1.100 rounds! Make good use of that. Your shooting should be more precise after the D VII, cause the Albatros is not so "nervous" on the stick. Your easiest (fighter meat" should be the SPAD XIII. When they dive, don't follow too steep - they'll come again, so fly to that point, when you see them climbing again. The second easiest should be Nieuport 17. Don't turn with them tight - go to and fro, and shredder them. They break like butterflies. Nastier is the S.E.5a. A hell of a fast fighter, and turns good. But I always managed to turn with them long enough to damage them. That is a tactic I would use anyway on all opponents: damage them early on. The more craft you have hit early, the less high quality opposes you. Then get them, one after the other. The most difficult opponent is the Camel - a fast craft with great turnability. Attack ONLY after full Dicta Boelcke (that's for the S.E.5 as well). You can't outrun them, nor outdive them, nor outclimb them - you can only hit and destroy them, before they get any chance to act. As you never know, if they are flown by aces, I would only fight them, when your advantage is very good, like: you're higher and outnumber them 2:1 or at least 3:2. Hope it will help. Do some test flying with intentional attempts to break the wings - so you will know, where to stop. It may happen still sometimes, though.

Yep! C: my documents > CFSWW1 Over Flanders Fields

Whatever the original poster wanted - I hope, not a war here in the Forum. God beware - this is one of the very rare good ones. Let's keep it that way.

Well, there is an obviously different approach to this between those, who faught in a war, or lost someone close through a war, and those who haven't. It's like in that film "A few good men", where I could also understand the Marine's position. But I think, the thread title is wrong already. It shouldn't be "Man faces jail..." but rather "Silly boy faces jail..." A silly boy can't piss against my knee - cause I'd knock him off his feet. And those who where heroic, know what they are - men.

Could it be, that the British got French Nupes, and overpainted the roundels?

Yep, Duce's link doesn't seem to work. And Flyby, you're right about the Mosquito - a great twin engine fighter/bomber. My first war film I saw in cinema was about a Mosquito squadron, that had to attack a secret plant in Norway, where the Germans where about to produce "heavy water" (?) (schweres Wasser), which you need for building an A-bomb. For that movie, some of the last Mosquitos where saved from becoming objects for fire worker training. But I forgot the name of the movie.

Must admit, I didn't know this fighter yet. When was it's service time? Interesting forward attitude. If they had placed the pilot right under the wing, he could have checked forwards and backwards both very well - must have been a problem of balance.

Update 11/07/09 14:10 Berlin wintertime (= GMT + 1) Lothar of the Hill People, New Mexico, added. The maps are in post 1 of this thread

Aaaahhh!!! There he is! Some good banter should bring some fresh wind into this autumn grey sleepiness! By the way - I never liked those picket helmets.

It's his wet dream - he believes he could get a German craft down, if he had the Snipe. One day he'll have one - and it will be a bad awakening!

Widowmaker: Well, there wont be many skins for the Razor... only 36 of them entered combat duties in the last weeks of the war. And, to think..I was worried about them Olham!! Don't know where you got that from, but it's wrong, or better: uncomplete. If there where 36 craft entering service in the last weeks of war, they must have been the Fokker with the improved wing - the Fokker D VIII. But you forget the first version - the Fokker E.V, which entered service in July, August 1918. And don't worry - I'll only need ONE of them to reap the Camels! That will become hard final days of war for the RFC.

He'll never give up!

Hey, that looks good! Where was that?