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Shiloh, the original name is "The Eye of the Needle". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Needle_%28film%29

Thanks for the link, Shiloh - very interesting! Would have been THE job for me in that war! Have you seen the film "The Needle" with Donald Sutherland as a spy? It shows him creeping up near an airfield which looked like being crammed with bombers. But they were all only dummies made of wood and canvas, to bluff the Germans.

Okay, not sure if I can top it, but I still have the early PC "sim" "Their Finest Hour" by LUKAS ART. It had no 3D models but pixelated images of the planes from various angles.

Well, I try to create logical folders and branches for them. My Albatros D.III (OAW) photos for examplae would be under D: WW1 > Photos & Documents > Aircraft > Albatros > Albatros D III > OAW

Naw, there was no info with the pic. Could it be in a museum? No idea...

The hard disks are so big nowadays - why shouldn't you be a hamster? The major problem is not the space - it's to REMEMBER that you have all this stuff!

Ages ago I read somewhere, that a pilot used this trick, when a Camel was after him. He first went into a right-turn-dive, from which he pulled out into a left-round-climb. (I hope I remember it correctly) Does anyone here know, who said this, and if there is any more of this pilot's tricks in the internet?

Makes perfect sense to me, Lou - so I can only guess it was an evasive manoeuvre for a withdrawal of the Albatros. I wish I could remember who wrote it, and where I have read it. Seems no one else here has.

Yes, indeed, Hasse Wind - Fröbe would have suited the Floh. I wonder how they built the fuselage - I guess it was "Wickelrumpf" technology. When you see the Mercedes D.I engine, which was fitted into the "Floh", you may understand why it is so unproportionally high.

This is one of Kermit Weeks' "KermiCam" videos which he makes with a helmet camera while piloting aircraft. Seems he bought one Albatros D.Va replica from "The Vintage Aviator Ltd" for his "Fantasy of Flight" collection. It's nice to see him do the settings before and after flight, and to hear his final report. He goes up with TVAL pilot Gene deMarco, who is flying an R.E.8. We see that Kermit finds it hard to get at the British two-seater, and Gene says at the end, that he didn't even fly with full throttle (if I understand that correctly). Anyway - it's a pleasure "to fly" over the beautiful British landscape at the "Shuttleworth Collection", where they met. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i973gkkRNhs

Well, you guys say, you'd "wait above the Albatros and get at it's tail". But the Albatros isn't there anymore. When it performs a left-turn descend, I understand the Camel pilot would find it too hard to follow. So what would he do? Stay at his altitude and perform a 3/4 right turn to get into the right position? Meanwhile the Albatros (which was faster than the Camel in a dive) would be quite a bit further away. Now of course he wouldn't have to perform the right-turn climb to, when the Camel did not follow the left-turn descend. But he should have gained a distance between him and the Camel. The Alb only turns so long, until the pilot can see, if the Camel follows or not. If the Camel follows, he continues with part two - the right-turn climb. If she doesn't follow, he would no longer turn, but fly away straight from her, while she performs her 3/4 right round turn. Only if the Camel tries (and halfways manages) to follow his left-turn descend (which the pilot could only do with fully kicked left rudder plus stick hard left, I guess - only then would he change into a right-turn climb. If the Camel pilot would now suddenly change from full left rudder plus stick left, into a right turn - then I assume the chance that he would overturn to the right (gyroscopic effect and torque) and run downwards would be pretty good. Useless to compare that with flight sim Camels - they are all still too gentle to handle IMHO.

Maybe the skies of Europe would have been full of laughter?

Ah! Errh - okay then... You muszt know zatt uss Dsherrmans do nott have ze same humour. But now I understand - you mean you vere playink ze role of der hotspursz ve are shootink down all day? Now I gott itt! Ssank you!

"Huh!!! Why do you ssink I'm only flyink der Albatros? Ze answer is: because itt iss so beautifull! Huh!!!" Cute Floh video - lovely!

True, this behaviour of descending to the right and climbing to the left is represented in OFF. (I tried the Camel only once in RoF and didn't notice any tricky torque effects there at all. Their Camel is a totally faked super fighter.) But the left turn of the real Camel was so much slower, that the veterans would rather perform a 3/4 right turn instead of a 1/4 left turn or so I read. I don't know if I remembered the tactic from post #1 correct. From how you describe the torque effect, it would make more sense to dive in a left turn, and then to climb in a right turn. I also hope Lou knows some better.

Yes, and if the Alb comes back, it does so with guns pointing forward at the Camel. That's the trick. You got it wrong - the Alb dives right and then climbs left - a move the Camel couldn't follow very well, due to the immense force of the torque effect. The Camel turned great to the right, and absolutely bad to the left. (An effect which isn't represented very much in any flight sim - Camels are usually far too easy to handle IMHO) They were not such over-experienced aces like us, with countless victories and hundreds of own deaths on the slate. .

I think he just buttons up his coat. I see no anxiety, but maybe the strain of the last sorties?

He was flying Albatros; forgot to mention.

Well, Tony, here is a video of both craft in the air.

I have seen photos of Eduard Ritter von Schleich, were his face/tan is dark as a Tuareg. There could be two good reasons for that: 1. the sun was not behind the photographer, but was rather hitting the lense from slightly forward left or right 2. the pilot may have been one of those people, who get a pretty dark tan in summer (usually dark-haired guys) There would bwe a third good reason, but it's naughty to assume that: - when the guy was drinking too much and constantly had a red face from that (I had this suspicion from several Berthold photos)

Yeah - in his hands the word "to knock the enemy out" gets a whole new meaning! Maybe Trenchard said something like "We must throw at the Germans what we have!" Mmuahahahahahaaaa!!!!

To add something rather respectless: the photographer caught him unexpectedly in a moment when he didn't make a "normal" respectable face - he looks like a "square-teeth zombie" to me. I'm with Jim there - he was just helped into the coat. So he would be back from a sortie. The dark face could simply just be shadow.

Watched it again in highest resolution; it is so brilliant that I can watch it full screen, which I recommend. For all who may not know: click on the toothed wheel at the bottom under the video screen, select the highest (HD) resolution, and right of that, the middle or the right frame, to get medium size or full screen. After flying another sim a lot lately, which has a more modern visuals/graphics engine, I had thought WOFF could not reach there in this respect. The video proves me wrong. Even though the visuals may not be that modern, it is the overall touch and atmosphere, the harmonious tuning of the whole design - and something I can't quite put my finger on - it is the total of the feelings, which creates a world, which is really there, and for which I still haven't found a better word than "totally immersive". I only know: I want to be "in there"...

Well, I guess you might be so proud of the new damage models, that your subconscious makes you do that. Which is okay for us Huns; less work. No, wait - you crashed INTO our craft... Damn...

Just saw (and heard!) it on YouTube - the new sounds from Creaghorn are great!!! Nice to see more detail - must watch it again. Pol, did you fly the planes? Are you a re-born Kamikaze pilot???