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It only matters in terms of confusion. I mean if ED are this far off on their predictions for stuff to come then who knows what to believe when they make statements.

I was referring to "Who is allowed to say WHAT to WHOM and Who isn't", which was the reason I left in the first place

There was a company a couple of months ago who said it best "Pirates are NOT OUR CUSTOMERS, so why should we make decisions based on what they say and do".

Just when ED decisions couldn't get any more confusing. They have released the English Manual For Blackshark. In light of the fact that the Russian version was cracked, that there is a simple way to make a fair amount of the internal working language into English and now they release the English manual , their decision to not allow people outside of CIS to legally and easily download the russian version looks even MORE SILLY.

That is so true. Holy crap, I just went to SIMHQ and went thru the thread over there about SF copy protection in BS. WOW, what a freaking soap opera. I haven't been back to SIMHQ in well over a year and after reading that thread I feel so good about my decision to leave that place.

The 'un'fortunate part of software development is that there are times when DEVS believe their own hype, just like other companies. On their own forums (not just ED) they have a large group of people telling them that "YOU ARE GODS, I LOVE YOU and I want to have your baby" and they assume that this is the way everyone feels, without naming anyone in particular , there are also forums that don't allow any kind of negative posts about a particular product, so again the company thinks that everything is great. The thing I hate about game devs as a whole and as an industry is that too many people think that the devs are doing them a favour by developing this particular game. Black Shark is especially bad because of the limited genre and unfort ED thinks (and is backed up by those who will do it) they can shovel anyting out to the simming public and they will buy it. This isn't too say that BS isn't a great sim, becuause I don't know as I don't have it. BUT protecting it via SF , a much maligned and much hated CP system, just goes to show how little ED cares about the gaming fans that they are trying to attract. Never in my history of gaming have I wanted a game to be cracked in the first hours of release, just to show ED that they are completly wasting their money. When you look at their reaction to the pirated copy of BS that is going around, they are actually cutting off their nose to spite their face. They are preventing people from actually buying the game outside of CIS. Now I could understand if they stopped selling it all over the world , but they are not. So what this means is that the rest of the world will copy the program instead of buying the Russian Version. This too me smacks of "I am taking my ball and going home" behaviour.

That was my thinking as well, that COME HELL OR HIGH WATER, they were going to use SF. I don't think they expected it to be cracked/hacked so fast. Though I am not sure why they would think that because it uses the same version as a bunch of other games out there that have all been cracked. What I also find strange that there is the story out there that Flaming Cliffs was not cracked. That is wrong. I know, I bought FC and got sick and tired of having to register, run out of activations and have to contact them when I need new ones (yes, I upgrade and screw around with my machine alot), so I got a crack for it (hope that doesn't break any rules here, @mods, if so I will remove this portion of the post) and got rid of this annoying feature of FC. BTW, another strange note about CP that is out there, I installed SP3 of Windows XP, several games that use a hardware check failed after installing SP3 and I had to re-activate after that. I did not change any hardware but it appears SP3 changes the way that windows 'sees' this hardware as though it is new.

And of course the Russian stuff uses files that are readily editable because they are not built in to the game. Are you referring to the updated version OR the one that was released last week, if so, it is already cracked and 'in the wild'.

yup , that is all it is, to keep the interest up. Funny part is, I can see people using the files (voice, sounds etc) from the demo to make the cracked russian version 100% english.

The problem is that as of now, the legit customer OR more importantly the potential customer is suffering because ED is making a kneejerk decision and is actually making things worse. If they revamp the protection to the point where it is impossible to break (yah right) , the cracked version is out , nothing can be done about that. Pirates will get it, and the customers who would have purchased it will be forced BY ED (my emphasis because now the ball is in their court) to jump thru hoops that they should not have to. After all, the new measures won't stop people from pirating the game as a crack version is already out.

I have been reading the DCS forums about the open letter Of course 99% of the posts are of the type "We love you, Can I have your baby, you did the right thing". Which is of course understandable considering the atmosphere created where descent is immediately dealt with by a quick ban stick. Hell one guy even posted a way for someone in the west to use a method to make it seem as though they are in Russia, he got punted. I just hope that ED doesn't sit back in a week or so, and think "Yup, looked in that open letter thread and we sure did the right thing because everyone agrees with us". Does everyone know the story about the emperors new clothes, this reminds of of that.

QFT I have always used "after the horse has left", but I like yours better. and in this case it is probably more accurate. That is why I personally can't see the "revamped Western Logic" thing, because quite frankly you are right, it will be cracked, or perhaps ED still believes that FC was 'cracked'.

I think you are right especially with ED, they just seem to have a grasp on reality at all. This latest 'decision' seems half baked at best. I think TK has it right, NO DRM that I know of. There was a post here the other day about a guy that lost his CD and TK fixed it right up for him, personally I could never see ED doing anything like that, but I could be wrong. I am not 100% convinced thought that modern DRM is about preventing piracy so much as it is about killing the after sale market of which some devs feel they deserve a piece of.

Well 20mm, the piracy was caused by the 'public' for sure, but the controversy was caused by ED itself. This latest one is a kneejerk reaction to a bad situation by making it worse. Restricting access by the West to the Russian version feels like "PAYBACK" or "REVENGE" to me and come hell or highwater the west isn't getting this version. Jeez, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

ED to me has always been something of a mystery in terms of their 'attitude' towards their customers. This incident in another example of the mind set they have that escapes me. Their attitude towards modding is another one, they seem to way to keep everything very close to the chest, it appears even making people signs agreements just to get the tools.... When you look around this genre two the most successfull companies in terms of sales are Microsoft Flight Sim series and of course Thirdwire. Both of which allow you to do just about anything inside their products. As a result they have sold ALOT of copies, and on to the CP thing, while FSX now requires online activation and limitions which suck, Thirdwire has no CP/DRM as far as I know...and while it might be copied alot, it appears that TK has decided to focus on the legitimate customers and more importantly on things he can control and pirated copies of his products isn't something he can ever control. Is it frustrating for the companies who work hard to put these product to have them copied, absolutely for sure, no doubt BUT why implement measures that ONLY (and I can't stress this enough) punish the legitimate customers, it never punishes the pirate. This latest measure they are taking is a prime example of this. The cat is out of the bag, not releasing the Russian version to the west does nothing to put the cat back in the bag and in fact will cost them sales while not increasing the sales of that version to the folks in CIS. If they implement harsher methods in the future it is just more incentive for the crackers to crack it.

For sure, I would never post a link to this. The point of this post for me was to notify those here of the decision by ED to change the decision to release the Russian version to the West , imho, in complete contravention of logic and common sense.

File Name: OV10D_v1.rar File Submitter: mustang60348 File Submitted: 26 May 2007 File Updated: 9 Sep 2007 File Category: Heavy Bombers and Multi Engined Aircraft This is the first release of the OV10-D Bronco Full acknowledgment to Tim "PIGLET" Conrad for his original model and for allowing me to convert it to WOE Just UNRAR the contents to you objectsaircraft directory under Wings over Europe Click here to download this file

I have a laptop that has a GPS on it. Is there a way to download Google Earth data on my PC and transfer it to my laptop so that it will display properly without being hooked up to the internet when I travel. I would like to download large amounts of data, i.e. an entire province or state.

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This one sounds a bit better to me.

Where does everyone get the data for their custom flight models. I am finally at the point where I have to create some decent flight models and need data , on airfoils, which airfoils a particular aircraft had for wings, horizontal tail, vertical tail etc. Thanks

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The CLa calculator will give you the Coefficient of Lift at 0 Alpha. Since the Coefficient of Lift is determined by wind tunnel testing and flight testing for each airfoil, what does this program use to determine CLa. Does it use a standard airfoil and if so , which one.