whiteknight06604

""I dont understand how things work" - makes absolutely no difference to how things look over here - and that statement portrays how Bushs image and actions are portrayed over here whether you like it or not." US and any nations foregn polocy should not be dictatred by the opinions on the streetcorner or around the water cooler in another nation.portrayed is the key work here.What is happening and what is reality are rather different in foriegn press these days. "I will over look this because I think you may be speaking on emotion here." no emotion at all.the US military never intentional targeted civilians in Iraq and is one of the few militaries that when planing an operation emperils their own forces to minimize civilian casulties.both infrastructure and life.nothing in war is perfect and the deaths do happen somtimes due to an intelligence error,sometimes(mostly to) the enemy using civiains as shields and sometimes it's as simple as dumb luck or being off target.I have no moral issue with bombing civilian targets in germany during WW2.Thats how things were thenI will not judge the past by todays standards.Thats the same as hating a house wife 100 years ago for killing a chicken in the backyard to make dinner...it was just a different time. "Not denying anything tbh- Well I guess in that case the UK press is lying through its teeth then - and it wasn't a complete disaster after all if you say and everyones happy - glad thats sorted - silly us." Hit the nail on the head.It's not just the UK press though.The US press is distorting on a massive scale and all coverage in Iraq has all but dried up in the face of the sucsesses in the last year.They had hourly reports on every death and setback but you never saw the hundreds of hospitals or schools built the 100's of children taken to the US for medical procedures the cooperation between Iraqi civilians and US armed forces and the almost complete stoppage of sectarian violence.There are now Suni and shia haveing picnics together in parks zoos opened and families that were seperated due to religion are now reunited.It's not all a bed of roses but things are more than on track and are nowhere as bad as they are portayed anywhere in the media.The war was going bad for a while and it was the Bush admistrtions fault for the most part but things have turned around and violence is at all time lows and the Iraqi goverment will be able to resume secrity duties soon.Every day more and more duties are handed over to the Iraqi military.Their police needs to improve but that should too in time.

Your as big an @ss as me

actually the Idea of scocialism is fundementaly evil.why is it ok to take from one and give to another?If you work hard for what you have you shouldn't have to give it to some slob only doing just what he needs to get by.In the "pilgim days" in North America they tried it and they almost starved.every family put their crops into a central warehouse andd everyone got an equal share but it was discovered that noone worked hard because they got fed even if they didn't work for it.Food production went down and starvation was a real posibility that first winter.once they switched to private plots everyone worked and there was a surplus crop.On every level and in every time Scocialism/communism has been a dismal failure.unless everyone is a clone and thinks exactly the same it will never work.jelousy and lazyness will alaway ruin it.the only way it can work is with clones.People as long as they are different will alaways covet what they don't have weather it's somones ability with poetry or their looks it can and never work with the human race.Commonism has lead to more death famine and represion than just about anything else the human race has concocted. "btw if you find an Iraqi that is happy to be liberated - let us know wont you" there are tens of millions of them.You can deny the truth all you want but I have friends with family in Iraq and everyone they have ever talked to are happy as hell they have a future. "George Bush has been weilding the sword of power like a 1 armed Monkey with a hand grenade in his time - not just at the cost of lives - but current and future relationships between countries." you obviously don't understand how things work over here then because for the most part The power of the President is checked by the other branches.George Bush hasn't done anything any other World leader hasn't done at one tme or another.And as for international rel;ations why be friends with somone who stabs you in the back?And the way things look now somtimes you have to do what is right not what is popular.And the weasels in germany and france found out when they were voted out and replaced with more pro-American leaders.George Bush isn't responsible for the civilian deaths in Iraq than Winston churchil was for the german civilian deaths in WW2.As stated millions are free from oppresion starvation murder torture and now have at least a chance at a future.Far more were dieing everyday pre US invasion due to murder and famine and lack of medical attention than do post invasion. If I have to hear that tired and discredited old "blood for oil" bullcr@p again i'll just puke.that is stuff ignorant school kids believe here not anyone that has any independant thought or a reasonable understanding of the facts.

"I do have to say, it's bloody ironic listening to the US administration condeming Russia's actions as "attempting to orchistrate a regime change in Georgia." I mean, that took big brass ones, IMHO." no one complained when it was done in WW2 and ask the Kuwaities what they think of the ouster of Sadam.The Man killed hundreds of thousands of people and threatened the security of surrounding countries.It was a service to the world removing him and 40-50 million people in Iraq and Afganastan are free thanks to the actions of the US military.The situation in Georgia is not compairable considering that Russia cares nothing for freedom or civilian casulties.Georgia isn't inocent in the destruction of civilian ares either.Russian motivation for the "invasion" is one of pure greed.they want to reestablish control over the former republics and gain control of the oil in the region.The US has shed blood and spent billions helping people be free of murder rape and torture.things got bad due to mismanegment and outside forces(Iran,Syria and the internal terrorists)but they are on the right track now and casulties and attacks are at an all time low.So the USA did show brass balls but it was standing up to a bully with a nuclear arsenal.

The large armour formations would be shreaded from the air by munitions delivered by stealth aircraft.Anyone who thinks in a limited engagement Russia would last very long is dreaming.Command and control would be the keys.Us intelligence would know where and when any Russian move was to be made and Stopped.Russian ground forces out of direct control would not be of much use other than in a tactical situation.The Russian army would not have much air support for long. Russian(soviet) propganda always was showing the workers and peasents living an idealic life.with the state taking care of all their wants and needs with uncle joe replacing Jesus as the man who should be praised.the reality was far from that.social classes were markedly differnt but still contrasted.Instead of people who went out and made money the "wealthy in the USSR were people who were useful to the state.If you had a skill or were a scientist you got to live well and have more access to western goods.The street sweepers and factory workers got sh!t on.during the 80's the Russian people in large sections of the country were living the same way they were 100 years before.technologicaly that is.

Oh I'm no fan of the UN at all they for the most part are corupt and have no sence of right and wrong(how many resolutions condemniong Israel but nothing on the Arabs and terror.Abu Gharib villianised as the unltimate evil but dictarorships and thugs on human rights councils and countries the are state users of real tourture and terror are looked at as victoms or heros) oh i understand that the UN isn't anything now it still holds sway over the third world and developing countries.it give a hint of legitamancy I guess.It's invouge to bash the US.It's really a combination of jelousy and guilt.Jelousy that we have the power to act on the world stage and guilt that they wouldn't act even if they had the power.Just look at the runup to the Iraq war everyone in Europe was quick to condemn Iraq and vote resolution after resolution to punish and threaten but when it came time to act very few stood up.

Europe may wring thier hands at threats that are out of Europe but I still have hope that when push comes to shove enough people remember what happens when you don't listen to the warnings of danger right on their doorstep.I'm not advocating sending in NATO troops but Russian should be made to leave the G-8,and the UN really needs to revoke Russian veto power in the security council(never gonna happen)Eastern Europe remembers how things were with Russia controling their lives.Poland and maybe a few others of the newer NATO members can be counted on to be more agressive in their support.most of the strongest allies in Iraq were from Eastern Europe.Not forgeting the contributions of all but it was nice to see newly freed countries helping others.

Normaly I don't ask for updates but do you guys have any plans on making any ground objects?maybe some armored personel carriers and Anti aircraft guns.Also some chinese warships would be really welcome.Thanks.

your right I was referiing to the initial invasion of Iraq.most russian line units are about as good as the "top of the line" Iraqi republican guard units.though slightly better equiped.Russia historical has has issues with iregular warfare...at least post WW2 Yeah it looks like this was planed well ahead of time Russian troops and the fleet were well prepared in advance,many Russian troops were in the area in the weeks leading up to the conflict repairing and expanding rail lines and roads to move troops and supplies.This is starting to really stink.All they needed was a reason to attack.that was Georgias mistake.It's only a matter of time before Russia moves on the Ukraine,Russia is already threatening them for not letting Russian ships dock in Ukrainian ports.Looks like Russia may be out of the G-8 soon too.Just need Europe to risk their oil suppies and showw some resolve.

There were lots of positive reports about the workers utopia under the communist but the reallity was much different.If it wasn't for US wheat in the 70's there would have been wholesale famine in Russia.The reason Russians are happier now isn't that things are good it's they are better...big difference.Also The Germans thought very highly of Hittler and look how that turned out.Just because somone rouses a little national pride with his sabre rattleing dosn't mean he's a good guy.I'm pretty sure the US isn't weak,the only reason caution has to be takken is russias Nuclear weapons,without those any US troop sent into the region would disasemble any russian resitance.casulties would be higher than in Iraq but the outcome would be the same.

I think the US already has some military advisors in Georgia.Russia may have been able to claim some moral highground but that has long sence passed.they have drove far into Georgia and are bombing and shelling large areas of Georgia.Georgai want a cease fire Russia is continuing to push deeper into areas of Georgia that are not in dispute.While there was a claim to be made that Russia had a right to defend what they believe are their people they are now just using it as an excuse to claim the areas that they didn't want georgiahave when the country was established.It just so happenes that that is where the main oil pipeline is hmmm must be a coincedence.Also it speaks volumes that Russia had ammo and supplies stockpiled in the area and ready to go.And I'm Sure Putin visiting the Generals in charge of the millitary action and not Medvewhateverov is just Putin helping him rather than him being the one in control.Georgai while they did make the initial moves is being pounded way out of proprtion to what is needed to restore peace.

God damn it again I agree.

that is the best news I've had all day.I really have been looking forward to this.Thank you.

yeah the game is well worth the price.

US has been airlifting Georgian troops from Iraq to Georgia.It would be wise of Russia not to get in the way of US planes.It would be nice if both side just stopped the BS and withdrew to pre-conflit borders and waited for some sort of international ruling on the matter.All thats gonna happen now is revenge for the previous days attaks and it will just go on and on with the civilian population suffering the most.

Russia at the very least is being very hypocritical.It must be tough have ones country fall from being to superpower to a 2nd rate economic state.the Russian people are a resiliant bunch and are used to oppression and hardships that few in the west could endure.Unfortunaly that makes them less likely to anger when their goverment takes away freedoms or stiffels any sort of Freedom of the press.

Hell same situation I would lie too,my point was after Edwards wife was aware they both were publicaly dening it.Now it's embaresing and all but the fact he didn't realise that the world was gonna find out and yet he continued to lie shows he's not that bright.The guy made millions sueing doctors into the poorhouse with lies and junk science so I guess an affair is no biggy to him.The thing he didn't do was lie under oath that was Clinton and Martha Stewerts undoing.It tends to piss off the Feds when you lie to them.

The majority of the world are not scum but are hard working and decent people,you only hear about the bad.The segment was about John Edwards cheating and lieing about it.It would make sence that they would try to keep it on topic.With so many news stations going 24 hours there is more than enough time for every story.They only divert addtention to thingss when they don't feel like answering a question.The reason the story was important was Edwards is on Obamas short list for atorney general so anything he does is under a microscope.I also find it amusing that when George Bush makes a mistake he's Hittler reincarnated but when some liberal icon does he's just human.

What the game really needs is to have a patch that decreases aircrft frequency acording to dates.have the planes beless common early and late in their careers

Your conversion to the dark side is almost complete

That is a cool link thanks.On a side note how the hell did that guy fit in the Pilatus P3 cockpit?

After I read a few of my posts I realised that some sniping on my part was done.While I stand by my opinions I could have been more diplomatic in the execution.If my attacks(not opinions) offended anyone I'm sorry.maybe a lack of sleep and a few beers isn,t good for a debate.

jsut yesterday I was looking for Jag skins,excellent timing and an excellent job.

"Just saw a Georgian citizen interviewed on the BBC - who happens to be in London - knew nothing about the situation over there whatsoever so was just shouting off based on his emotions - as you can imagine it was " Russia is doing this/that - they want a new Soviet Union etc blah - NATO said they would protect us - they must do something now regardless!"" herein lies the problem both sides represented in this argument here are guilty of this.both sides in reality have greipes and they should have been settled in a more civilized manner.Georga should have used more diplomatic means and russia should not be using the situation to justfy a land grab.I would expect nothing less than the Russian members of the forums to support Russian interests.It is after all their country and to root against ones own country right or wrong is somthing I believe is unique to liberal America.As I have said 10,000 times.If when that facts are out I'll form a permanent opinion on the issue but I just think too many people are just listening to what they want to hear or what they are forced to hear.Maybe i'm just spoiled because in America like it or not we have an independent media and we ,if we want to and are open to it ,can find the truth.

"Fox News is comparable " Whatever dude.LOL it must be a cute little world you live in. As far as state run censorship...hmmm purges and arrests due wonders for media truth I guess.Please to compair a mistake you read about on some biased and obviosly ignornt web page with wholesale distrtion is laughable.believe what ever you want it dosn't effect the way things are just the way you percieve them.