Thanks for reply's.
Migbuster: i did a fresh install with drive format for win 8.1.
i Get a pop up box from web installer saying "direct x determined that a newer or equivalent version is installed already. no instalation is necessary"
the full download version does the same, so i looked at the 64 bit files in the download, copyed them to system 32 folder but i am not to sure what i am doing, ran the sdk, because Capun told me it would say what files are missing, but it does not......
Wrench: sorry for post in wrong place, cheers for the move.
Capun at a-team seems to think some files from dx9 are missing from 8.1 instalation, but he cant remember which ones.
i have tried to install dx of the disc aswell, seems to over write a few files, but game does not start.
i have looked through windows/system 32 and some files are ovbvious for dx9, but not all.
if i could get a list of files that are included in dx9 installation, i could compare to the system 32 folder (seems like a long shot though).
could it be anything to to with the settings on Nvidia inspector settings menu ?. (the new version is not as straight forward as the old control panel).
somthing makes me think it might not be direct x, because i run some old games flawless on 8.1.
eg: rFactor, cod 4, cod 5, mohaa, FSX, ILL 2 with stab, Hawx.....etc...
but this is only a thought..
Cheers for replys,
Will keep on it.
M.