Yeah, MadJeff. Since you seem to have a direct line in to the developer, report to him that from what I have read so far on this and other forums is that the Simulation is not up to speed. Ok, OK, its an early demo. Granted, but never the less. Its not up to speed yet. Dont let the developers think that this will be acceptable for the Simulation fans. If they want to make another Commanche4, just come right out and tell us and we'll leave and go back to EECH and LB2. No problem. But like I read somewhere in one of these discussions, "we already have 2 great games to base a helo sim on. Dont re-invent the wheeel. Just take those games and add arcade for the candy boys. " Or something to that effect. No worries mate. Its our money anyway. Still alot of time left to get it right. :D 8)