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Seems to me that landing at the nearest friendly base is just like using the warp feature only without using the warp feature.....

that's rather sporting of you.

Hello, I've built my own headset (3 point hat actually) and have been using FreeTrack with success in all my flight sim games. I also will be glad to help if needed.

I agree with all of the above posts only I use Freetrack (almost free shareware) and built my own 3 point clip/hat. It works great and cost maybe $25.00 cdn.

I've posted my specs in other threads but I'll do it again here. I have an AMD quad core 3.2 GHz.64 bit cpu, 4 gb. ram, ATI 5870 card, a m4a79t asus board and Win 7 64 bit. My other games, Crysis for example, maxed out, just scream on this system. I've also mentioned in other threads how in exasperation I took Off off this computer and installed it on my old XP 32 bit computer and it runs fine, a very decent 40 to 50 fps with settings at 54452 or thereabouts. I could really use some help here and would appreciate any reasonable suggestion. Please don't tell me to update my drivers or read the FAQ or condesendingly refer me to the noob section because I've been there and done that long before getting to this stage. Besides we are not talking about a few frames per second here. Today I tried something different. I uninstalled CFS3 then re-installed and renamed the .exe file to cfs3win7.exe. It was a tip I'd read about on another forum I think. It also didn't work. When I fired up my 'puter I was still getting 5-10 fps without any tweaks and that's dismal.

Hello all, I am back. I installed a new mobo, also the m4a79xtd evo as per BirdDogICT and presto, problem solved. I've been playing OFF the last couple of hours as a test with sliders at 5 and getting smooth frame rates in the 45 to sixty range . My CPU now runs at 3200 mhz. Von Paulus, you said that I may have had this problem all along and at the computer shop they agreed. Apparently some of the m4a79t deluxe boards did not support the 955 BE CPU right from the factory. This is something I should have picked up on at the start. We did check the bios at the time of purchase and of course it showed the CPU at 3200 because it is reading the CPU bios and not the actual clock speed so I never paid it any thought. Only when I got to a single core dependant game did the problem show up, exactly as Von Paulus has said. By the way they were very courteous at the shop. They even rma'd my old board for me and will call when ASUS sends it back. Also Win 7 made the install of the new board a snap. It found all the drivers and installed everything. I only had to tweak a couple of things (Freetrack) but that's all so far. I'm impressed. So I am a happy camper at last. This has been a journey and much thanks to all who helped out. Unfortunately I am still getting shot down, its just happens smoother now......

Good point about the floppy. Most people think its days are long gone but a floppy drive is a cheap and simple way of getting into your system if something goes wrong.

I'll add my two cents and it might seem trivial but get the biggest case you can find. My ATI cards barely and I mean barely fit. I had to move the hard drives forward in their slots to make room.

I am looking forward to one day playing OFF with the frame rates other guys talk about. So maybe in a week or so from now I'll know.

read the link you provided and that sure looks like a duplicate stuation. I'm emailing it to the tech guys at the store. Might save them a lot of trouble. It doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the board they'll eventually send back. Hopefully that guy in the link just hit a stretch of bad luck.

I think you are right. I'll see how it goes. Maybe I'll buy a new board and when Asus returns the 'fixed' board that will give me a start towards another system. Just trying to find a positive. thanks...

yes, several times. Thanks though....

Hi Von Paulus. I did exactly as you suggested. Moved the jumper over and left it for a few minutes. Then moved it back, rebooted, set the time and date only as BIOS found the drives and then went to Windows to check CPU-Z and Orthos. There is no change at all from 800 mhz. I then went back into BIOS to check Cool and Quiet but it is disabled by default along with CIE so I am back to square one. I did notice a jumper on the motherboard during this process for overclocking voltage but thats for extreme overclocks of 1.9v or so. Of course I didn't fiddle with that.

OK, I'll try the CMOS jumper and let you know.

Just a thought. What are the CPU 'instructions' as shown by CPU-Z? Are these software based instructions(programs) actiing on the CPU?

I agree this problem feels software based. The symptoms are exactly that of QnQ being enabled. Thanks for the link, Herr Prop Wasche. FYI I updated to BIOS version 2304 and you were right in how 'EZ' the process was. I also have used the Orthos program as recommended by Von Paulus with no change in core speed. Earlier Friday I tried Orthos with my work computer and it showed the difference between 'idle' modes and performance. I've also been experimenting with my other computer with overclocking just to get a feel for the different values and how they work together. Don't worry I am careful about temperatures. One thing I did last night was to overclock my 2.2 ghz to 2.4 ghz on core zero and had Off run there. I underclocked the other cores to 1.9 ghz.as they hardly get used at all. The result was virtually no change temperature wise from stock settings but with a little quicker feel to OFF itself. I talked with the computer store owner and he has 'apoligized' for having a new employee work with my system. He will refund my diagonostic fee but wants another of his guys to have a look first. I'll take the computer back Tuesday and drop it off if I /we can't solve it in the meantime. We've got 72 hours guys, like television. After Tuesday I am out of town until Friday and won't need the computer anyway. Again thanks for the support.

Yeah, I'm in agreement with the latest posts. I didn't feel these tech people are professional at all. I only took my machine back there because it's where I purchased the components originally. After talking with them yesterday evening on the phone and basically being told the problem was I had downloaded the wrong version of CPU-Z I went right over and I picked my machine. All the service guys had left and there was no paperwork or diagnostic report showing their side of the story. I'd paid $50.00 cdn. too for this 'service'. I'm talking with them this morning to get a refund.

OK now, the computer shop tells me there is nothing wrong with my system. CPU-Z reads 800 mh. per core x4 and that's 3200 mhz. according to them. When I told them about CPU-Z screen shots showing 3200 with a x16 multiplier they suggested CPU-Z was not reading correctly and I should try another program. If anyone out there has a AMD quad II 955BE and can supply me with a screen shot using CPU-Z I'd appreciate it.

Hi all, OK. I'll update once I hear back. My machine goes 'on the bench' tomorrow.

Hello all. Today I updated my BIOS to the latest version. Unfortunately the results are still the same. Tomorrow I will phone the computer store and make arrangements to bring my machine in for service. Also I know that this thread drifted away from OFF and BHaH General Help. I hope that has not upset anyone. It was not my intention at the start. I very much want to thank all the people who posted here with helpful suggestions and encouragement.

Perhaps I've learned that 'ignorance is bliss' as I was sailing along happily with this system as is until I found this out. I am joking of course. It has been and continues to be a learning experience.

I am hoping you are right as that is something in my control. This evening I am going to update the BIOS to see if that solves the problem. If it doesn't then I guess I am heading back to the shop to get the mobo and CPU checked out.

Today I tried everything, well almost everything because obviously I haven't tried the right thing. My system still won't run at 3200 Mhz. I changed all the AI tweaker settings on my BIOS. The 16x multiplier, the core speed setting to 3200 Mhz. , set the voltages as per Von Paulus's list and nothing works. Sometimes my settings caused the machine to not boot and I would go back and try again. I also tried AMD OverClocker. In that program I could set the voltages and multiplier and as soon as I pressed 'apply' the Overclocker program would move the settings back to my default 4x and 800 mhz. Very frustrating indeed. I think I will have to flash the BIOS.

I've been doing some reading to become more familiar with the terms used like HT ref clk etc. I ran AMD's Overclock program last night and somehow it adjusted CPU speeds slightly from 802 Mhz. to 820 Mhz. So I now have that CPU core speed showing on CPU-Z. As well AMD Overclock looks like it 'sees' the correct 'target' settings of 3200 Mhz and 16x multiplier for the cores. I just have to figure out how to apply those settings through the program. If the program won't or can't do that then I will try manually with the settings you've posted.

'Auto' is set already. MB has EZ-Flash. It looks EZ ennough. I am getting ready to try this soon. Thanks