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One of the biggest problems for me with any flight sim is breaking the illusion of flying. For some reason MSCFS3 and OFF P3 did just that. I always get a certain amount of pausing when flying from left or right in either. It has to be code related and I hate that. I have no problems with other flight sims or racing games. If it's not a smooth FPS then I just move on. MS Flight Simulator is another badly coded, badly bloated and woefully unoptimized flight sim. I still have trouble spending top dollar when it's not something built from the ground up. Rise of Flight graphics wise destroys OFF/WOFF v1/v2

I guess my problem with spending $75 on WOFF v1 and v2 is that it's based on an aging graphics platform. If the developers had created their own sim from the ground up it would be a little easier for me to spend the $75. It's a tough sell when it's not after spending $45 on OFF P3.

"WOFF is only an update, in the sense that it is a new, very much improved payware version of the original freeware CFS3 World War 1 mod Over Flanders Fields and its payware successor, OFF 'Phase 4'. So is WOFF exactly the same as OFF P3 just with nicer graphics and enhanced AI? EDIT: I read your detailed review and it enhances OFF quite a bit. I do think the devs should have given a discount to previous owners.

I purchased OFF P3 several years ago and thought the modders did an excellent job with an aging MSCFS3. I recently received an email regarding WOFF. I go to the devs website and I see WOFF v1.0 and a WOFF Expansion v2.0 but what gets me is that v1.0 is $30 and the update is $45 and you supposedly need v1.0 in order to install v2.0? So that's $75 for both, what gives? Then I come into this forum which has been awhile since my last visit and read that some have update OFF to WOFF? Huh !!!!? So is WOFF and update to OFF? Anyways, I hope someone can clear this up for me.

Excellent work ! Will this require MSCFS3?

Looks and sounds great Alpha

I'm confused by the different packages out there and i'm not sure which I should get? So maybe you guys can make some recommendations. I went Real Environment Xtreme's website and that looks like a must own so I would love to build around that. The others I see by doing a Google search are Flight Environment X, Ground Environment X, Ultimate Night Environment, Ultimate Terrain X, Active Sky X, X Graphics, Aero Files Texture Booster, Ground Environment Extreme Enhanced. As you can see that's potentially a lot of money so I want to make FSX as nice looking as possible. My concern is one package might nullify another so as to make it redundant or even worse mess things up. I'm definitely buying Real Environment Xtreme but if you had the choice which ones would you get?

That's even better. My reference to Falcon 4.0 Battlefield series are the add-ons not true to life simulations. I don't have the time to invest in hardcore stuff anymore. So a Longbow 2 approach is fine by me.

Sweet man That first video reminds me of a fun Helo DiD's Apache for Win95/DOS. It was mentioned in another thread about the graphics being bland. It looks fine to me for a first title. I say worry about the gameplay first graphics second. If you guys are going after the Longbow 2 gameplay it's going to be a long wait for me before you release this thing.

Sweet, this is quickly turning into the Falcon 4.0 Battlefield series.

You guys rock, day one purchase for me. You should talk to the Stardock guys, they seem to have the best handle on DRM. They don't use it but they require a serial number for any updates to their games. I don't mind STEAM as a last resort.

One last question, is there a way to tell what version of CFS3 is on the DVD? I would prefer not to install CFS3 and just install OFF3.

Thanks everyone. I found the perfect solution. Since i've already paid for both i'm going to try out the NATO mod on WOE and play the standard Campaign on SF2E.

Thanks again Jonathan ! So should I install WOE? edit: I take it I need to install all 4 Nato mods?

Thanks ! I take it the Nato Fighters 4 is the expansion for SF2E? Should I install Wings of Europe?

Hey guys last year I purchased Wings over Europe from Amazon.com and I liked it so much I decided to buy the upgraded version, SF2E from Thirdwire. Are these two version exactly the same minus the graphics upgrade or are the campaigns different?

Thank you MigBuster, worked like a charm.

Thank you kind Sir !

PERFECT !!!!!!!!!!!! Day one purchase for me and i'll sign up for the Blog updates. I don't want to steer this discussion in the wrong direction but please don't use intrusive DRM. That's why I love and buy Thirdwire's stuff. Eagle Dynamics DRM is a nuisance and the reason why I won't be buying anymore of their products. DCS Black Shark left a bad taste in my mouth.

I read over at the DCS Black Shark forums that supposedly there's a new Apache combat sim in the works. I haven't seen any info but wanted to ask in case someone came across this info.

Wow thanks, I totally forgot it was mentioned that with the DVD version you don't need to install CFS3. It just checks the disc for verification.

Thanks unCleal ! Is there a 3.1 UK patch because when I use the Microsoft 3.1 update I get an error message about not finding the old file and it aborts the update? Btw, I have the UBISOFT DVD version. From what I can tell it looks like the International version. And I appreciate the info regarding Firepower. The graphics look terrible when compared to OFF.

Hi fellas. I did a fresh install from CFS3 (DVD Version). I then updated to 3.1a (did not run 3.1) , then I installed the add-on pack for CFS3 "Firepower". Then it dawned on me Phase 3 may not work correctly. Is that the case? Will OFF Phase 3 work if I first install Firepower?

Hi everyone, just bought FE2 and I love it. I also downloaded 2 mods. The IL-2 Clouds mod and the Jan Tuma FE Tiles mod. I read the readme with both mods and the layout of my file directory doesn't come close to what the readme says. For example it says to put the IL-2 Clouds mod into the Flight directory and "To install open up your Flight folder in the games main folder backup the ENVIRONMENT SYSTEM ini file and the CLOUD1 TARGA file.Drop the new ones into the flight folder and let them overwrite." The problem is I don't have any of those files in that directory. I checked the FE2 folder in My Documents and it wasn't there either. Wrt the Jan Tuma mod I have no idea where to install those files as well. Any idea what i'm doing wrong???

Does this game require a constant internet connection to play SP like Rise of Flight?