Javito1986

I read comments that the music is funky. I watched these muted so I have no idea. The feeling I get watching these scenes is just... surreal. This is my first time seeing this and it's amazing to see those real Fokkers and real SE5s/Camels flying that way. My god man, that is precisely what it must have looked like to be up there in '17/18. Where else can you see anything like this again? No modern CGI film even comes close. These planes had their moment in time, did their thing, and are gone and nobody living has ever seen them like this, flying the way they're meant to. But watching this gave me just a hint of what it must have honest to goodness looked like to be up there and that's got me all emotional right now, had to share : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKBoHlDB0-U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQ3isbTjDE&feature=related

I'm a bit confused. Are these the same guys who make IL-2? Because I thought that company was the one making Cliffs of Dover?

Yes but Howard Hughes was like Michael Bay you know? He didn't want it to make sense, he just wanted it to look pretty and use real planes ;-)

Yea that form-up when they see the SE5s coming is so great to see. Amazing skill. I also love when the two formations come into contact, that is what a WW1 furball looked like. You just don't have images like that in the jet age, this is a very tight and limited battlespace where collision is a real danger. This stuff right here is the whole reason why the biplane era is the one that's fascinated to me since I was a kid, and it's great to see it captured on film like this. The cameras were right up there in those real Fokker DVIIs and SE5s, the images are all real, so by golly when a Fokker DVII was on your six that's exactly how close he was. Terrifying but fascinating to see. I know several pilots (I believe four) died in accidents while making this film, and Howard Hughes himself was badly injured. But come on, something tells me those pilots were happy to be back in the air, making those planes work the way they were meant. The scene where the SE5 is chasing down the Fokker is, of course, meant to be cinematically dramatic and all that, but, and maybe it's just me, the sense of exuberance and liberty those pilots feel throwing themselves around the clouds is palpable. It must have been a joy to film those sequences, particularly since nobody was really shooting at them that time.

My favorite is 2:38 in the second video. The way that Fokker kicks its way to the left & dives to escape the SE's gunsight is great flying and looks amazing. The pilot who did that must have really known his aircraft to do that. Oh by the way, what was the maneuver that Howard Hughes wanted them to do and they all refused because they knew it would kill the pilot? And Hughes did it himself and sure enough he was lucky to survive the crash?

I've reinstalled OFF three times now. Twice all the way through, this time I've stopped before installing HitR. Here's what I've done so far: 1) I've done a full, custom install of CFS3 to my D drive and patched it to 3.1 (not 3.1a, though i tried that before and still had this problem) 2) Installed OFF 3) Superpatched and minipatched Testing it now and every time I go to fly I get this error http://img818.imageshack.us/f/92847148.jpg/ I've tried it with BOTH CFS3 discs and the OFF disc proper. And this also happened on my previous reinstalls with HitR. What in the world is going on here????

As you saw in this Gen Discussion, the AV was the problem right here. I'm clarifying it just in case someone else runs into this issue!

Ahhhh I missed this! Downloading now! Thank you!

Yep, found it! Can now run OFF with AV on. I love how easy the solution is, and how long it took me to find it :-p

No that is helpful. I'm digging through Kaspersky right now actually to see where I can set it not to pester CFS3 and OFF, so I dont' have to disable it each time I want to fly (not that it's hard to do so, just a button click).

Ah well that explains it. I was flight leader of my Rolands and when the Nieups jumped on us I hit A and gave everyone attack orders. So the Roland C.IIIs broke formation and got ripped to shreds, me included. Bad move eh? :-p

Made a new German campaign. Tested and works like a beaut! Bless the girl's heart, I'll see that she's aptly rewarded for this one. Thanks to all of you who took the time to help me out. See you up there!

You guys got any tips for a two-seater campaign? I just lost my first observer, a German Fleiger in the rear seat of a Roland on his third mission in April '16. Nieup 16s thrashed the whole flight, I didn't even see them until they were swooping down on us all vertical like. It was a bit of a slaughter and my bus hit the trees on fire not too long after, with me in the observer seat trying to tell the bloody pilot to fly straight so I could shoot the Nieup that was killing us. Blarg!

Hullo. Writing from out of the home, the wife just sent a text and claims she fixed it for me? Apparently one of the errors mentioned Patch DLL, and she disabled my Kaspersky anti-virus and says she was able to fly just fine. At which point I briefly panicked and begged her NOT TO KILL MY PILOT but she says she didn't. So... there you have it! I'll have a look when I get home. Believe me, I'm as surprised as can be!

I haven't purposefully installed anything, but I do download and install updates as I get them so it's quite plausible Dx has been altered since January. I'll look into it once I'm home from work today. Either way I just ordered a new CFS3, and made sure to get the DVD. Thank all of you for all the assistance during this dark time, I'm really hoping I can get up into my old Camel asap.

Yea, I tried it again before going to sleep tonight. Still not working. Here's what I've done. 1) Uninstalled EVERYTHING 2) Cleaned each and every last scrap of OFF and CFS3 off the system. I ran searches on C and D drive, scanned with WinDirStat, the works. There wasn't a shred of either game I could find on the entire system, unless there's some uber secret hidden registry file I missed. 3) Installed CFS3 off the ISOs I created earlier. Patched to 3.1 (not 3.1a). Flew the Thunderbolt, got shredded by 109s but kept on flying straight and level as they pounded me for 1 or 2 minutes. Very amusing. 4) Installed OFF P3, ran a test flight. Ran test with just CD1 ISO, just CD1, just CD2 iso, just CD2, and with both the ISO and CDs in at the same time. Received this error each time: http://img27.imagesh...f/61615552.jpg/ 5) Superpatched OFF. Tested with ISOs and CDs. Received the original error, different from #4 error: http://img831.images...i/57830423.jpg/ 6) Minipatched 1.32. Tested with ISOs and CDs. Received same error as #5. 7) Wife inquires why I'm bashing head into wall repeatedly. Forced to give up. EDIT: It must be something with this damned computer. I have played OFF here and only here ever, as recently as January. I'm thinking of buying an entirely new copy of CFS3, erasing each and every patch (minus HitR of course), and start again as much from scratch as I possibly can.

Ahhh man. Ok, I patched it up to HitR 1.47 and now am back to the same old error, seen here: http://img831.images...f/57830423.jpg/ That shot was taken with both CFS CD1 in the hard drive and imaged as an ISO file, seen here: http://img810.imageshack.us/f/51541326.jpg/ I am stumped at this point! Tomorrow I'll try what Uncleal mentioned, a clean of the drive but man, I'm getting pretty discouraged at this point, have been at this all day now.

Ok here's where I'm at. I've created ISOs of both CFS3 CDs and crashed on takeoff using both. But the error has changed from what it was before, you can see it right here http://img27.imageshack.us/f/61615552.jpg/ Now, again, you'll notice I'm running VANILLA P3 with CFS3 3.1a because up until this point I haven't wanted to continue reinstalling and patching over and over again when it wasn't working (too time consuming). Think I'll go ahead and apply the superpatch/minipatch/HitR/1.47 now though and see if something changes.

I'm trying the suggestion to make an ISO file of my CFS3 discs right now. What's the recommended procedure for this? I'm using Daemon Tools' Disc Imaging feature to try it but it's been sitting at 0% for a while now and doesn't seem to be doing anything... I've mounted plenty of ISO files, but have never tried to make one from a CD. Tips on methods and programs to use? EDIT: Nevermind, I guess it's working it just took an ungodly amount of time to get up to 1% ;-). Guess I'll be here all night! Off to watch Blue Max to try and sate my OFF fix ;-)

Le sigh... same error while using CFS3 CD2. Happens the moment I try to go to fly anything. I tried running it on OFF P3 vanilla without the super or minipatch, without HitR... should I try installing those, or would that be a waste of time if it's not working at this tage?

I did indeed Olham, and found pesky files right where you said they'd be. In the process of reinstalling right now, fingers crossed.

No choice old boy. I've always had OFF installed to the D drive because this hard drive came partitioned, and my C drive never has room for anything else. But yes, I agree it could be there's something wrong in the C drive. I'm using WinDirStat to sweep C for any stray OFF/CFS3 components. EDIT: AH HA! Found some little hidden buggers in my AppData. Deleted, will get back to you all after I do a fresh installation

Roger, reposting.

Ugh, this is so aggravating. I did try that Uncleal, just now. STILL getting a "can't find CD" error. Using vanilla OFF P3 right now since I can't be bothered to reinstall every patch just to keep getting this error. Gonna go smack my head into a wall repeatedly until I figure this out.. Maybe a No-CD fix would help???

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