Crawford

It's the only only way, It's the only trick to play; He's the only hun, you're the only pup' And he's only getting the wind right up, So go on and do not stop 'Till his tails damn near your prop, If he only crashes this side in flames, Well, you'll only know they'll believe your claims, So keep him tight in your Aldis sight, It's the only only way! ))) Splendid! Thank you, Stephen!

As you wish, sir. ) As I at last understood why the files can not be added lile before, now I add a few illustrations to the written above. Especially for those who don't like it, I'll say it again - if I have something written here, it does not mean give me-give me-give me. This is a simple information interchange, that may be helpful afterwards... may be or not may be... )))

Why, ojcar! It's just a discussion, nothing more. I never let anyone here not forced to fulfill my 'whims'. And I never anything demanded from Stephen. He is his own master and the master of his time, isn't it?

Well, Stephen. Actually, for the LFG-built fighters was typical such color scheme in which the lower surfaces from the lower wings to the stabilizer was diagonally painted Light Blue. I can't insert a color profile, but it can be clearly seen in the photos. To tell the truth, all this time I was very confused by the cooling system tube (above the upper wing). On your model this tube is bent downward and enters somewhere into the pylon. In old photos is visible a small stand in the form of an inverted letter V, which supports the tube with a 'funnel' on its end. This bell-shaped tube can be directed upwards on downwards deployed.

Thank you very much, Stemhen! And if you have a desire to make even some small changes to the 3D-model of the Roland? ;)))

Well, Guys, you're absolutely right. Indeed, in reality such an exaggerated vibration would destroy the machine in flight. I admit that very strong vibration could be a few seconds at startup of the engine, but not during all the flight, unless I'm greatly in error. Of course, I don't insist that exhaust pipes of your plane were shaking like crazy. Moreover, Third Wire soon abandoned the use of this effect. The exhaust pipes of the SPAD-7 does not vibrate - in contrast to SPAD-13 from the original game. Thankr for the reply, Guys!

Apparently, you have not understood my question. I meant that at some stock planes the work of the engine is accompanied by animation. The motor of the Fokker D.VII shivered, for example, and the exhaust pipes of the SPAD-13 noticeably vibrate. It's a rather nice feature, although from this there is no practical use, of course.

Nothing... Alas, my joy was premature. I'm sorry. (

Dreimal hoch! Sometimes I manage to add a pictures. To my surprise, it does not always work. Here - I mean this paint scheme for the bottom surface of the Roland's tail.

And yet, the engine and the exhaust pipes of this your plane will be fixed or animated?

There are no words, to describe my admiration!

Thank you, Stephen. I never could it make. All that I have - a skin created by you, with my small 'amendments'. ...The pictures isn't attached over again. (

In addition, I slightly have changed a colouring at the bottom parts of the Roland's tail and fuselage - approximately as in this picture. Such colouring is confirmed by the many photos. I also plan to make the 'dirty' bottom surfaces of the aircraft. Maybe later... When it will be completed, I will try to lay out the screenshots. Certainly, if it is of any interest to you. ))

Oh, no. I didn't made the serial or tactical numbers. I merely corrected your files. I'm only added the letter 'a' in the type designation of the aircraft, and also changed the weight table on the left side. It was not difficult.

Stephen, you are joking! What can I upload? There are only three small files (one .bmp and two .tga). It's quite simply - using the 'clone stamp' to paint the steeps on the fuse skin. It takes less than a minute. In addition, the skin YOU have, not me. I'm talking about this. Those 'pilots' who want the historical accuracy of what is happening on the screen, themselves can make a small improvements (without affecting the 3D-model). And for those 'aces' who do not care - so do not care. In the heat of the battle who's going to read a tiny inscription on the board of an enemy airplane? ))

I already have make these improvements for myself. Yes, I am not able to create the models, but I'm a little know how to use Photoshop! ))Please don't be offended. Believe me - I did not mean anything insulting you. But if you have misunderstood my words, I offer my deepest apologies to you.

Exactly, Steve. You do what you think best about it. Especially as almost all of the above mentioned 'problems' are easily avoided by using Photoshop. If desired, anyone can correct the skins itself.

Gentelmen, may I say a word? You brought this model to the possible perfection, thank you very much. But there is a fly in the ointment. 1. If this is the Roland D.IIa, why on the sides written "D.II"? It's not likely German pedantry. 2. The technical inscription on the side looks like this: Leergewicht 600 kg Zul. Nutzlast bei vollem Tank 167 kg However, on the most Rolands this inscription didn't exist, so we won't be particularly upset. 3. The steps were ONLY on the left side of the plane (you've seen the photos!) Forgive me, Steve. It's my fault - during the beta-testing of the D.II I overlooked these little things. But I was in a hurry to answer you...

Such mods like in these photos, you mean? :)

Certainly! To the author of idea - too thanks.

Well done! Thank you, Steve. It is strange, that nobody has made it earlier.

No, I didn't mean the Roland C.II. I talking exactly about the Halberstadt CL.II / CL.IV. For some reason the pictures didn't attach yesterday (and today too). But, nevertheless, you understood me correctly.

You are right. )) I'll try to explain. I'm sorry that I misled you. Earlier I have compared an aileron controls of the Roland D.II with the Nieuports. The similarity with the Nieuport is really there, but quite remote. Also I incorrectly named the part of this mechanism as "quadrant" (by analogy with the Nieuport). Actually it's not a "quadrant", but aileron control crank. In fact, it worked almost exactly the same as on the Halberstadt CL.II/IV - they are still preserved in museums (one such is in exposition of the National museum of the USAF). Take a look at the photo and you will understand everything.

Thank you, Steve. You can rely on that.

Well, Steve, you did a great job. This is better, but still wrong (please, don't be angry at me). 1. Judging by the photos, the aileron controls looked different when they were working. Look closely at the pictures I posted. In addition, the "quadrants" was not visible from the bottom of the wing, but only from the top. As you rightly wrote, "it's an improvement, but still hard to notice if you're not looking for it" ;) 2. The crosses on the tail of the Roland-built D.II, in fact, were much larger. Also on the fuselage. 3. Note that the tailplane bracing wires of your model is much shorter than should be. It would only waste your time. So sorry, Steve. Maybe you will consider these comments when working on a model of the Roland D.IIa. Best wishes.