Southside Bucky
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FE Sounds V.2 (Revised 8 March 09) EDIT 8/3/09: Some people were experiencing problems with some of these samples, so I've made some changes to the package. The "Read Me" will explain... Aside from using authentic sound samples, in my opinion, the next most important aspect of decent sound within a game is balance. I therefore paid particular attention to this when editing these files. As an example, check out the "WindLoop" sound, just audible above the noise of the engine. New sounds included: "PropLoop" "Lerhone" "RotaryEngine" "Vickers" "Lewis" "Spandau" "Parabellum" "WindLoop" "Tiretouch" "Dirthit" Please note: The game's default volume for bullet hits on AI planes will be heard at the same volume level as hits to the players plane, which is obviously unrealistic. So to rectify this, extract, then open the "SOUNDLIST.INI" file from the "FlightData.cat". Scroll down to "DirtHit", and change the "MaxDist=" line to: MaxDist=010.000000. Disclaimer: I just want to let it be known that these files have been tucked away on my PC for three years or more, and therefore I can't remember where they originated from. Although I've enhanced and edited these samples to the point where they bear little or no relation to the originals, if anyone recognises one of them as being theirs and then take exception to their use, then please PM me and I'll be happy to delete that file from the package. EDIT 2/3/09: Sorry, forgot to mention...Just as a guide: I use "Lerhone" for all the early 1915-16 rotary engine aircraft: DH2, Pup, Nieuports, Eindekker's, etc. It could also be used for the Fokker Dr.I and 110hp Sopwith Camel. Use "RotaryEngine" for the Sopwith Triplane, 130 & 150hp Camels and all other late war (mid 1917-1918) rotary powered planes. I hope you like at least a few of 'em Bucky -
One possible change you could make would be to the dark colour of the plywood decking around the cockpit on the clear doped a/c. All the photos I've seen show the colour around that area to be only just slightly darker than the clear doped fabric itself. So a light tan or light/medium brown shade would be more accurate IMO. BTW, thanks for the stuff in your last PM. Much appreciated!
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That's great!...It's the one I've been waiting for. Must admit though, I'd almost given up hope. Thanks Quack.
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Nice work as usual, Quack. Is there a plain cross (without the white border) decal in the stock game? Reason I ask is, as you no doubt know, most Pfalz D.III, and D.IIIa's used the plain eisernes kreuz.
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Absolutely terrific, Sinbad! Yet another excellent contribution to the game. Very well done, mate!
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Red or green,...who knows for sure? Probably no one. Green seems more logical in a military sense, but the red would seem quite likely for daylight air to air recognition. So your optional upload is a good idea, I reckon. Whatever, here's a few photos of Kagohl III Gothas. Speaking as a Londoner, I particularly like the first one: Incidentally, if you only read one book on the WWI bombing of England, make it this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Blitz-Neil-Hanson/dp/0552155489/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271096331&sr=1-1 A riveting read!
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DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
I think the 32 Sqn nacelle undersurface should be (off) white too...And if possible, the cross bracing detail should go. it was pretty smooth under there. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Not sure if it's just me, but that link doesn't seem to work, Jim. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
I think the nacelle fabric side panels could be just a shade lighter still, and maybe more of a cream colour. They have a slight tinge of green ATM. I really like the wrinkles on the fabric though! Is it possible to cover that horizontal light grey line on the upper part of the nose? It looks like a highlight, and tends to give that area a bulbous look. The upper wing letters/numbers look a bit thick in comparison with that photo of C1, which are quite slender. But if that font is all you have, they'll be okay. Looking good otherwise! -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Actually, I was gonna say a while back that your pilot position seems a bit low...I noticed it on the Bristol Scout too. Mine's okay on both the DH2 and the Scout, so maybe you should raise yours up a bit? You probably know this already, but if not, here's how: Scroll down to the 'Pilot' section in the plane's Data.ini and raise or lower the number value I've pointed out below. [Pilot] SystemType=PILOT_COCKPIT PilotModelName=WWIpilot PilotHeadNodeName=head Position=0.0,0.71,0.185 <---------------------------The third set of numbers (0.185) raises or lowers the pilot. MinExtentPosition=-0.33,0.9,-0.35 MaxExtentPosition= 0.33,0.5,0.55 HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=STEEL Armor[REAR].Thickness=15 RE: The nacelle flight numbers: This is opening up the proverbial can of worms...I was gonna keep quiet about this because I didn't want to cause you any more work, but thinking about it, I reckon it's something you'd like to know: The underside of the DH2 nacelle was actually solid plywood, not fabric. This was then overpainted in white (or maybe sometimes light grey) to roughly match the clear doped wing undersurfaces. Take a look at photo numbers 2, 8 and 10 on page 1 of this thread and you'll see what I mean. Then take a look at the full frontal photo on page 2 and you'll see that the white painted demarcation line is rounded, closely following the curvature near the end of the nose. So, (if you feel so inclined), paint the underside white, right up to the end of the nose. The flight letter and number will then fit either side of the compass housing. PS. The 24 Sqn nacelle undersides should be white too...Really sorry, man, I should've told you back then, but you obviously put a great deal of effort into all that lovely bracing detail on the nacelle bottom...I just didn't have the heart! :no2: -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Excellent tip, Wilches. Thanks for that. And thanks for those very kind words fellas...Your cheques are in the post :whistle: . BTW. Really looking forward to that Eindekker skin of yours Jim. It's gonna look great paired up against Quack's DH2's. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Yeah, you got it. 'A' 1 to 6. Ditto 'B' and 'C' Flights. Yep...Flight letter AND the number. Letter above, number below. For example: A 1 Shame about the strut decals, but thanks for giving it a go. Thanks for the offer regarding the Scout skin too. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
You know how I hate to come across like Mr pedantic,...but here goes. The 24's are just about perfect...Love the saw-tooth effect! Truly excellent. Well done mate! The 32 Sqn scheme could do with the following changes, IMHO: I think the clear dope colour on the nacelle sides would look more like the photos if you lightened it a shade or two...Roughly the same shade as that used for your Bristol Scouts (Whatever happened to those, BTW?). Could you get rid of that light grey band around the nose? extend the medium grey on the undercarriage legs all the way up to the nacelle, covering the light grey 'brackets'. This next one's up to you, but at some point during the autumn of 1916, 32 Sqn decided that their coloured wheels were inadequate as a recognition device, so they added Flight letters and numbers, ie, A1, B2, C3, etc. Take a look at photo No.3 on the previous page. You can just make out 'C1' painted in white on the top wing. Repeated in black on the nacelle undersurface, like so: Well,...you did ask! -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Just remembered, I also have a list of about 20 serial numbers of DH2's used by 24 Sqn. Any use to you? -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Well, there were exceptions I'm sure, but it was standard Airco practice at that time to paint all struts grey, including the tailboom and rear struts. On a related note, There was usually a small decal applied to the centre of all struts...Here's a close-up of it. Colours were; wings: gold, 'A' and ring: copper, and lettering: black. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Looking great, Quack! But with the following changes, it'd be just about perfect, IMO: All non stripey struts in Battleship grey. Can you get rid of that grey line on the nose? Would it be possible to overpaint the small grey sections at the top 'n bottom of the undercarriage struts with PC10? Maybe move the nacelle roundel forward just a little bit? Are there gonna be any serial numbers? -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
I feel your pain. 'Bout a month ago, I went to take my copy of that big and hefty book 'British Aviation Squadron Markings' off the shelf... As I was lifting it out, it hit the shelf above, fell out of my hand and the two bottom corners of the front and back covers embedded themselves straight into the pages of two of my favourite books: 'British Aeroplanes '14-18' by J.M.Bruce, and 'The Fokker Triplane' by Paul Leaman. In all, the tops of about 20 pages of both books were either slightly torn or badly dented. Took me a while to get over that one... -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
These are the only decent 32 Sqn photos showing the wheel flight markings I can find. Wheel colours for ALL THREE flights were black and white. No red! 32 Sqn DH2 7907 of 'B' Flight Two views of 7851 of 'C' Flight. Wheel markings: (Ignore the white outer ring on all three) -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
No, the wheel covers were plain black, I think. I thought some 'B' Flight A/C may have had plain white wheels as well, but I've revised my opinion on that now. Yes to the B/W outer struts. Peter. In answer to your question about the Camel colour: Yes, it's meant to be PC10. Is it accurate? Well that's a hotly debated question. As this year old thread from the Aerodrome forum illustrates, Very entertaining in places if you have an hour to kill...Can you believe that people insult each other over a shade of green or brown applied to aeroplanes over 90 years ago? http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/camouflage-markings/41185-pc-10-cdl-varnish-mythbusting.html -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Here ya go... From the famous '24 Sqn Presentation Day' photo session, taken at Bertangles in late June or early July 1916. The struts were painted just days before. 1. 'A' Flight line-up. 2. A close up of the 2nd DH2 in the above line-up. 3. Thirteen DH2's in this line-up. Probably includes both 'A' and 'B' Flights. 4. 'Team Photo' of 'B' Flight, flanked by their Black and white strutted DH2's. 5. Two close ups of the 'A' and 'B' Flight line-up. 6. 7. Unidentified 'C' Flight DH2, with blue wheel covers. 8. Another 'C' Flight machine. Note the lack of the saw-tooth effect under the nacelle. 9. Two photos of captured DH2, serial No. 7873 of 'C' Flight. Shot down by Hptn Oswald Boelcke (holding cap/standing on wheel) on 16th September 1916. His 24th victory. The geezer far right is MvR. 10. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Actually, Peter's hit on something there ...What would be really cool, would be to do a kind of 'mix 'n match' set. It could contain two sets of wings: One clear doped and one PC10. And five different nacelle colour combo's: 1. Clear doped sides with grey nose and metal panels. 2. Clear doped sides with PC10 nose and panels. 3. PC10 sides with grey nose and metal panels. 4. Overall grey nacelle. 5. Overall PC10 nacelle. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Yeah, I've got the 'Pusher Aces' book too. It's a pretty good book, overall. All I can say though is, I've never seen any photographs of 24 sqn DH2's taken during the stripey strut period, that supports those first two profiles. A photo of the third one can be seen on page 50, so no problem there, but the nacelle (and upper wing?) numbers weren't introduced till early '17. I'll try to remember to get some batteries for my camera tomorrow and upload the photos I have...I think I've got just about all the relevant 24 Sqn DH2 pictures that have been published to date. And yeah, B Flight was definitely black 'n white. This is confirmed in the DH2 'Windsock Datafile', by Barry Gray, and 'British Aviation Squadron Markings of WWI', by Les Rogers. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Almost forgot... Take a look at photo no.7 which shows the 'saw tooth' effect painted on the underside of many 24 Sqn DH2 nacelles. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/december/aviation/DH2-14.jpg Not sure if it's possible to do that on the FE model, but it'd be a really nice touch if you could. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Okay, thanks for that. Just a few small changes: The 24 Sqn stripey strut period began around late June '16. Used as an easy recognition device during the upcoming Somme offensive which began on July 1st. A Flight used red/white, B Flight black/white, and C Flight blue/white. 1. You have some C Flight wheels in blue/white quarters. I've never seen any photos that support that. I think they were just plain blue. B Flight's wheels could be either white or black. 2. You have clear doped fabric side panels on the nacelles. Photos show that they were probably painted PC10. Incidentally, it's a moot point as to whether the metal parts of the nacelle were painted PC10 or medium grey. It probably differed from plane to plane. But I'd go with the PC10. 3. You have all non striped struts in natural wood. They should all be battleship grey except the undercarriage struts which were usually (but not always) PC10. I can't upload any photos ATM (Maybe tomorrow) and I can't find any online, but this guy's model is very accurate, although he has the undercarriage struts in grey rather than the more likely PC10: http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/december/aviation/DH2-09.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/december/aviation/DH2.php&usg=___Q9jJzZqNTNREAZuPFGKHY5kZP8=&h=600&w=800&sz=54&hl=en&start=13&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=hZimi6m8UmDZzM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dairco%2Bdh2.%2B24%2Bsqn%2Brfc%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4GZAZ_en-GBGB281GB281%26tbs%3Disch:1 Hope that helps. -
DH-2's of No.24 Sqdn A-B-C Flights
Southside Bucky replied to quack74's topic in Thirdwire - First Eagles 1&2
Hi Quack. Not sure if these are finished, but if you're interested, I could make a suggestion or two in order to make the 24 Sqn scheme a bit more accurate for the time period you're depicting. Just thought I'd ask first though. I don't like nitpickin' unless invited... Bucky