AI Flight model problem

[Wichita 103]

Problem with the AI MiG 17 flight model..........

 

In real life the MiG-17 locks up in high speed flight, around 450kts..... totally out of control by 500kts

 

In SFP1 the MiG can break through that redline

 

If anyone has a patch or a fix for this, please let me know

[+Dave]

There was an FMredone for it ages ago. But they guy who did it disappeared. I would PM Fubar512 to see if he can mod it for you.

[+Fubar512]

I released a modded MiG-17F flight model late last winter, that added (among other refinements) the effects of wing warp at 473 kias, and elevator lock up at speeds over 490 kias.

 

Essentially, at speeds above 473 knots indicated, you'll lose roll control. At 490 knots, the elevators will "freeze", a problem that the Mikoyan bureau attempted to address by equipping the aircraft with a telescoping stick extender, which (in theory) gave the pilot increased leverage with which to break the elevators loose when they locked up.

 

You must keep in mind, however, that the SF engine always uses a simplified FM for the AI. I'll upload it ASAP.

 

Get it HERE

[Wichita 103]

Thanks Fubar

 

Is the flight model just a fix for the MiG-17, or will it improve the flight models of all AI aircraft?

 

I've also noticed that the MiG-21's don't bleed very much energy in the game

[+Fubar512]

Thanks Fubar

 

Is the flight model just a fix for the MiG-17, or will it improve the flight models of all AI aircraft?

 

I've also noticed that the MiG-21's don't bleed very much energy in the game

 

There are MiG-21 FMs that were redone, as well as a replacement MiG-21F13 model (by the Mirage factory) complete with a very realistic FM.

 

Contrary to popular belief, the MiG-21 did not (or does not) bleed off airspeed, any more than, say an F-4 does. It is true that early MiG-21s were, in comparison to an F-4, somewhat underpowered. The later '21s hold up surprisingly well when compared to modern aircraft, such as the F-16. Their drawbacks are that they lack the visibility of modern designs and have a limited, self-imposed roll rate (their roll rate is actually quite high, but they suffer from an instability issue when pushed beyond 90 degrees of roll p/sec). However, a MIG-21 pilot can easily find himself exceeding his aircraft's max alpha value with very little indication that he's doing so, especially if he's not paying attention to the alpha meter.

 

I'll package a full set of FMs for them as soon as I find the time to do so.