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Hi there,finally I've installed the weapons pack and most of my dreams are reality,like nuke with the b-47 and so.

The reason for this topic is : why the f 104 s with the weapons pack on,loss all of it's air to air capability,no more aim 9 and sparrows,only air to ground stuff,i need if it's possible a step by step read me to fill this gap! Thanks!

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Hi there,finally I've installed the weapons pack and most of my dreams are reality,like nuke with the b-47 and so.

The reason for this topic is : why the f 104 s with the weapons pack on,loss all of it's air to air capability,no more aim 9 and sparrows,only air to ground stuff,i need if it's possible a step by step read me to fill this gap! Thanks!

 

Take a look at this post.

 

The weaponspack uses different designations for certain weapons, which makes the stock loadouts of some planes useless.

Edited by Gocad

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i begin to understand!another trouble is that i download both the f16 adf and the 23 gruppo skin,i've extracted inside the adf folder,but the only schemes are from florida and puerto rico ang?

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Since when did Zippers carry Sparrows???? Not any of the A,B,C,D, or G models.

Only the Italian 104S, S-ASA and S-ASA-M.

 

A little more research might be in order.

 

And yes, you better get over to the Knowledge Base and read all my posts on editing loadouts. 'cause if you've added the weapons pak, the next question in line would be "where are the missiles on my Migs?".

 

Your work is just beginning....muuuuaaahhhaahhaaa :rofl:

 

Wrench

kevin stein

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Take a look at this post.

 

The weaponspack uses different designations for certain weapons, which makes the stock loadouts of some planes useless.

 

THANKS!i'll deleted the initial weapons pack and replaced with the data that i've found in your post,so everything is installed correctly,but i didn't find the sparrows and their pylons!

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Since when did Zippers carry Sparrows???? Not any of the A,B,C,D, or G models.

Only the Italian 104S, S-ASA and S-ASA-M.

 

A little more research might be in order.

 

And yes, you better get over to the Knowledge Base and read all my posts on editing loadouts. 'cause if you've added the weapons pak, the next question in line would be "where are the missiles on my Migs?".

 

Your work is just beginning....muuuuaaahhhaahhaaa :rofl:

 

Wrench

kevin stein

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X-Ray: here's a direct link to the 104S:

 

F-104S Loadout Tweeks

 

And right below that one, you'll find the data sets for Jet-Z F-104S-ASA

 

Happy hunting!

Wrench

kevin stein

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X-Ray: here's a direct link to the 104S:

 

F-104S Loadout Tweeks

 

And right below that one, you'll find the data sets for Jet-Z F-104S-ASA

 

Happy hunting!

Wrench

kevin stein

 

yes wrench!i've make all the changes with this tip,i've deleted the original codes with these,now i have a big weaponry,but without aspide,sparrow and their pylons!

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yes wrench!i've make all the changes with this tip,i've deleted the original codes with these,now i have a big weaponry,but without aspide,sparrow and their pylons!

 

there are a few versions of the F-104S out.Knowing which version you are using may help.Jet-Z did one that required extra pylons to be added as a weapon so if your using a data.ini for the Anjunadar one with the Jet-Z one it might not work all that well.

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X-Ray, can you post the weapons station sections from the data ini, and the loadout ini??? I need to see what you have done, so I can figure out what is wrong.

 

I've no problems with either Jet-Zs or Ajundairs 104S models...both mount Sparrow/Aspide (depending on mission year and missile aviailbility). Same goes for the ASA and ASA-M

 

Check you start service dates...I'm pretty sure I changed them to more historical. It should read:

 

[MissionData]

NationName=ITALY

ServiceStartYear=1969

ServiceEndYear=2004

 

"Show me the ini!!" :haha:

 

Wrench

kevin stein

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X-Ray, can you post the weapons station sections from the data ini, and the loadout ini??? I need to see what you have done, so I can figure out what is wrong.

 

I've no problems with either Jet-Zs or Ajundairs 104S models...both mount Sparrow/Aspide (depending on mission year and missile aviailbility). Same goes for the ASA and ASA-M

 

Check you start service dates...I'm pretty sure I changed them to more historical. It should read:

 

 

 

"Show me the ini!!" :haha:

 

Wrench

kevin stein

I'VE changed the ini too,now all is like that your instructions tells,but no aim 7 and pylons!

 

data.ini

 

[MissionData]

NationName=ITALY

ServiceStartYear=1969

ServiceEndYear=2004

AircraftRole=FIGHTER

AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT

Availability=VERY_COMMON

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1962

ExportAvailability=VERY_COMMON

PrimaryRoles=SWEEP,CAP,INTERCEPT,ESCORT

SecondaryRoles=STRIKE,ANTI_SHIP,CAS,SEAD,ARMED_RECON,RECON

NormalMissionRadius=579

MaxMissionRadius=874

Ceiling=18288

MinBaseSize=MEDIUM

 

[FlightControl]

StallSpeed=88.38

CruiseSpeed=224.84

ClimbSpeed=218.85

CornerSpeed=239.29

MaxG=7.33

MaxSpeedSL=344.22

MachLimit=2.20

PitchDamper=0.6

RollDamper=0.4

YawDamper=0.0

GunBoresightAngle=0

RocketBoresightAngle=-3

 

[DetectSystem]

RadarType=AIR_INTERCEPT

RangeUnit=NM

RadarAzimuthLimit=45

RadarElevationLimit=30

RadarSearchTime=1.33

RadarSearchRange=60

RadarSearchStrength=40

RadarTrackTime=5.0

RadarTrackRange=20

RadarTrackStrength=20

VisualBlindArc=5,6,7

VisualRestrictedArc=

MaxVisibleDistance=6600.0

 

[sound]

EngineSoundName=F104Engine

AfterburnerSoundName=JetBurner

DamagedEngineSound=

FlapsSoundName=Flaps

AirbrakesSoundName=Airbrakes

GearsSound=Gear

 

[AircraftData]

EmptyMass=6387.60

EmptyInertia=68652.78,4157.05,69892.04

ReferenceArea=18.23

ReferenceSpan=6.69

CGPosition=0.00,0.31,0.00

Component[001]=Fuselage

Component[002]=Nose

Component[003]=LeftWing

Component[004]=RightWing

Component[005]=VertTail

Component[006]=Tailplane

 

[Fuselage]

ModelNodeName=Fuselage

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

CLa=0.2093

CD0=0.0254

Cm0=0.0008

Cmq=-1.1180

Cmad=0.4526

Cyb=-0.1990

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,1.042,1.183,1.319,1.399

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=0.982,1.000,1.059,2.536,2.054,1.830,1.671

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,30.735,32.389,35.516,37.828

MaxExtentPosition=-1.23,-5.63,-0.85

MinExtentPosition= 1.23, 1.80, 0.90

CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00, 1.79, 0.82

CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00, 1.79,-0.85

CollisionPoint[003]= 1.21, 1.79,-0.07

CollisionPoint[004]=-1.21, 1.79,-0.07

CollisionPoint[005]= 0.00,-5.45, 0.92

CollisionPoint[006]= 0.00,-5.45,-0.24

CollisionPoint[007]= 0.60,-5.45, 0.30

CollisionPoint[008]=-0.60,-5.45, 0.30

DamageRating=DESTROYED

SystemName[001]=Engine

SystemName[002]=CenterlineStation

SystemName[003]=SidewinderStation1

SystemName[004]=SidewinderStation2

SystemName[005]=AftCenterMainFuelCell

SystemName[006]=AftLeftMainFuelCell

SystemName[007]=AftRightMainFuelCell

SystemName[008]=LeftPositionLight

SystemName[009]=RightPositionLight

SystemName[010]=RearTopPositionLight1

SystemName[011]=RearTopPositionLight2

SystemName[012]=RearBottomPositionLight1

SystemName[013]=RearBottomPositionLight2

SystemName[014]=FuselagePositionLight

SystemName[015]=Tailhook

SystemName[016]=LeftMainGear

SystemName[017]=RightMainGear

SystemName[018]=LeftAirbrake

SystemName[019]=RightAirbrake

SystemName[020]=LeftEngineVent

SystemName[021]=RightEngineVent

SystemName[023]=ECM

 

[Nose]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=NoseA

MassFraction=0.308

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

MaxExtentPosition=-0.65, 1.80,-0.85

MinExtentPosition= 0.65,10.32, 0.84

CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00,10.28,-0.34

CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00, 6.06,-0.85

CollisionPoint[003]= 0.65, 6.06,-0.13

CollisionPoint[004]=-0.65, 6.06,-0.13

CollisionPoint[005]= 0.00, 6.47, 0.84

DamageRating=DESTROYED

SystemName[001]=InternalGun

SystemName[002]=AuxiliaryFuelCell

SystemName[003]=FwdMainFuelCell

SystemName[004]=Pilot

SystemName[005]=NoseGear

SystemName[006]=Canopy

 

[LeftWing]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=wing_left

DestroyedNodeName=wing_left_damaged

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

DamageRating=DESTROYED

MassFraction=0.088

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

LiftSurface=TRUE

CL0=0.0242

CLa=1.4569

CD0=0.0020

CDL=0.0059

Cmq=-0.2792

Cmad=0.0872

Cyb=-0.0430

Clb=0.0067

Clp=-0.1311

Clr=0.0428

Cnb=-0.2447

Cnp=0.0055

Cnr=-0.0116

CL0MachTableNumData=7

CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CL0MachTableStartX=0.00

CL0MachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=1.818,1.000,1.042,2.339,1.566,1.308,1.164

CDLAlphaTableNumData=15

CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CDLAlphaTableData=29.160,21.160,14.440,9.000,4.840,1.960,0.360,0.040,1.000,3.240,6.760,11.560,17.640,25.000,33.640

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=0.858,1.000,2.057,2.410,1.371,1.051,0.857

ClbAlphaTableNumData=15

ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClbAlphaTableData=24.931,21.939,18.948,15.957,12.965,9.974,6.983,3.991,1.000,-1.991,-4.983,-7.974,-10.965,-13.957,-16.948

ClpAlphaTableNumData=15

ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClpAlphaTableData=5.137,3.962,2.975,2.175,1.564,1.141,0.906,0.859,1.000,1.329,1.846,2.552,3.445,4.526,5.796

ClrAlphaTableNumData=15

ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClrAlphaTableData=-5.890,-5.029,-4.168,-3.306,-2.445,-1.584,-0.723,0.139,1.000,1.861,2.723,3.584,4.445,5.306,6.168

CnpAlphaTableNumData=15

CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnpAlphaTableData=-49.987,-31.919,-19.274,-10.842,-5.584,-2.583,-1.005,-0.065,1.000,2.954,6.590,12.755,22.386,36.548,56.487

CnrAlphaTableNumData=15

CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnrAlphaTableData=27.132,19.708,13.472,8.424,4.564,1.891,0.406,0.109,1.000,3.079,6.345,10.800,16.442,23.272,31.290

XacMachTableNumData=7

XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40

XacMachTableStartX=0.00

XacMachTableData=-0.056,-0.049,-0.021,-0.680,-0.908,-0.991,-1.063

CheckStall=TRUE

CLmax=0.4360

AlphaStall=16.24

AlphaMax=23.04

AlphaDepart=24.99

Ymac=-1.41

MaxExtentPosition=-0.98,-1.87,-0.04

MinExtentPosition=-3.46, 1.31,-0.55

CollisionPoint[001]=-3.21, 0.12,-0.50

CollisionPoint[002]=-3.21,-1.34,-0.50

HasVortexEmitter=TRUE

VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter

VortexPosition=-3.32,0.11,-0.46

VortexG=2.5

SystemName[001]=LeftFlap

SystemName[002]=LeftAileron

SystemName[003]=LeftLEFlap

SystemName[004]=LeftWingtipStation

SystemName[005]=LeftWingStation

SystemName[006]=LeftOuterWingStation

SystemName[007]=LeftWingLight

 

[RightWing]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=wing_right

DestroyedNodeName=wing_right_damaged

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

DamageRating=DESTROYED

MassFraction=0.088

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

LiftSurface=TRUE

CL0=0.0242

CLa=1.4569

CD0=0.0020

CDL=0.0059

Cmq=-0.2792

Cmad=0.0872

Cyb=-0.0430

Clb=0.0067

Clp=-0.1311

Clr=0.0428

Cnb=-0.2447

Cnp=0.0055

Cnr=-0.0116

CL0MachTableNumData=7

CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CL0MachTableStartX=0.00

CL0MachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=1.818,1.000,1.042,2.339,1.566,1.308,1.164

CDLAlphaTableNumData=15

CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CDLAlphaTableData=29.160,21.160,14.440,9.000,4.840,1.960,0.360,0.040,1.000,3.240,6.760,11.560,17.640,25.000,33.640

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=0.858,1.000,2.057,2.410,1.371,1.051,0.857

ClbAlphaTableNumData=15

ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClbAlphaTableData=24.931,21.939,18.948,15.957,12.965,9.974,6.983,3.991,1.000,-1.991,-4.983,-7.974,-10.965,-13.957,-16.948

ClpAlphaTableNumData=15

ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClpAlphaTableData=5.137,3.962,2.975,2.175,1.564,1.141,0.906,0.859,1.000,1.329,1.846,2.552,3.445,4.526,5.796

ClrAlphaTableNumData=15

ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClrAlphaTableData=-5.890,-5.029,-4.168,-3.306,-2.445,-1.584,-0.723,0.139,1.000,1.861,2.723,3.584,4.445,5.306,6.168

CnpAlphaTableNumData=15

CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnpAlphaTableData=-49.987,-31.919,-19.274,-10.842,-5.584,-2.583,-1.005,-0.065,1.000,2.954,6.590,12.755,22.386,36.548,56.487

CnrAlphaTableNumData=15

CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

 

loadout.ini

 

// Station 1 = Left Wingtip

// Station 2 = Right Wingtip

// Station 3 = Left Underwing Pylon

// Station 4 = Right Underwing Pylon

// Station 5 = Left Outer Underwing Pylon

// Station 6 = Right Outer Underwing Pylon

// Station 7 = Centerline

// Station 8 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

// Station 9 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

 

[AirToAir]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[Attack]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[sEAD]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

[Anti-Ship]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

[Recon]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

that's what i've installed!

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I'VE changed the ini too,now all is like that your instructions tells,but no aim 7 and pylons!

 

data.ini

 

[MissionData]

NationName=ITALY

ServiceStartYear=1969

ServiceEndYear=2004

AircraftRole=FIGHTER

AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT

Availability=VERY_COMMON

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1962

ExportAvailability=VERY_COMMON

PrimaryRoles=SWEEP,CAP,INTERCEPT,ESCORT

SecondaryRoles=STRIKE,ANTI_SHIP,CAS,SEAD,ARMED_RECON,RECON

NormalMissionRadius=579

MaxMissionRadius=874

Ceiling=18288

MinBaseSize=MEDIUM

 

[FlightControl]

StallSpeed=88.38

CruiseSpeed=224.84

ClimbSpeed=218.85

CornerSpeed=239.29

MaxG=7.33

MaxSpeedSL=344.22

MachLimit=2.20

PitchDamper=0.6

RollDamper=0.4

YawDamper=0.0

GunBoresightAngle=0

RocketBoresightAngle=-3

 

[DetectSystem]

RadarType=AIR_INTERCEPT

RangeUnit=NM

RadarAzimuthLimit=45

RadarElevationLimit=30

RadarSearchTime=1.33

RadarSearchRange=60

RadarSearchStrength=40

RadarTrackTime=5.0

RadarTrackRange=20

RadarTrackStrength=20

VisualBlindArc=5,6,7

VisualRestrictedArc=

MaxVisibleDistance=6600.0

 

[sound]

EngineSoundName=F104Engine

AfterburnerSoundName=JetBurner

DamagedEngineSound=

FlapsSoundName=Flaps

AirbrakesSoundName=Airbrakes

GearsSound=Gear

 

[AircraftData]

EmptyMass=6387.60

EmptyInertia=68652.78,4157.05,69892.04

ReferenceArea=18.23

ReferenceSpan=6.69

CGPosition=0.00,0.31,0.00

Component[001]=Fuselage

Component[002]=Nose

Component[003]=LeftWing

Component[004]=RightWing

Component[005]=VertTail

Component[006]=Tailplane

 

[Fuselage]

ModelNodeName=Fuselage

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

CLa=0.2093

CD0=0.0254

Cm0=0.0008

Cmq=-1.1180

Cmad=0.4526

Cyb=-0.1990

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,1.042,1.183,1.319,1.399

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=0.982,1.000,1.059,2.536,2.054,1.830,1.671

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,30.735,32.389,35.516,37.828

MaxExtentPosition=-1.23,-5.63,-0.85

MinExtentPosition= 1.23, 1.80, 0.90

CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00, 1.79, 0.82

CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00, 1.79,-0.85

CollisionPoint[003]= 1.21, 1.79,-0.07

CollisionPoint[004]=-1.21, 1.79,-0.07

CollisionPoint[005]= 0.00,-5.45, 0.92

CollisionPoint[006]= 0.00,-5.45,-0.24

CollisionPoint[007]= 0.60,-5.45, 0.30

CollisionPoint[008]=-0.60,-5.45, 0.30

DamageRating=DESTROYED

SystemName[001]=Engine

SystemName[002]=CenterlineStation

SystemName[003]=SidewinderStation1

SystemName[004]=SidewinderStation2

SystemName[005]=AftCenterMainFuelCell

SystemName[006]=AftLeftMainFuelCell

SystemName[007]=AftRightMainFuelCell

SystemName[008]=LeftPositionLight

SystemName[009]=RightPositionLight

SystemName[010]=RearTopPositionLight1

SystemName[011]=RearTopPositionLight2

SystemName[012]=RearBottomPositionLight1

SystemName[013]=RearBottomPositionLight2

SystemName[014]=FuselagePositionLight

SystemName[015]=Tailhook

SystemName[016]=LeftMainGear

SystemName[017]=RightMainGear

SystemName[018]=LeftAirbrake

SystemName[019]=RightAirbrake

SystemName[020]=LeftEngineVent

SystemName[021]=RightEngineVent

SystemName[023]=ECM

 

[Nose]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=NoseA

MassFraction=0.308

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

MaxExtentPosition=-0.65, 1.80,-0.85

MinExtentPosition= 0.65,10.32, 0.84

CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00,10.28,-0.34

CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00, 6.06,-0.85

CollisionPoint[003]= 0.65, 6.06,-0.13

CollisionPoint[004]=-0.65, 6.06,-0.13

CollisionPoint[005]= 0.00, 6.47, 0.84

DamageRating=DESTROYED

SystemName[001]=InternalGun

SystemName[002]=AuxiliaryFuelCell

SystemName[003]=FwdMainFuelCell

SystemName[004]=Pilot

SystemName[005]=NoseGear

SystemName[006]=Canopy

 

[LeftWing]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=wing_left

DestroyedNodeName=wing_left_damaged

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

DamageRating=DESTROYED

MassFraction=0.088

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

LiftSurface=TRUE

CL0=0.0242

CLa=1.4569

CD0=0.0020

CDL=0.0059

Cmq=-0.2792

Cmad=0.0872

Cyb=-0.0430

Clb=0.0067

Clp=-0.1311

Clr=0.0428

Cnb=-0.2447

Cnp=0.0055

Cnr=-0.0116

CL0MachTableNumData=7

CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CL0MachTableStartX=0.00

CL0MachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=1.818,1.000,1.042,2.339,1.566,1.308,1.164

CDLAlphaTableNumData=15

CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CDLAlphaTableData=29.160,21.160,14.440,9.000,4.840,1.960,0.360,0.040,1.000,3.240,6.760,11.560,17.640,25.000,33.640

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=0.858,1.000,2.057,2.410,1.371,1.051,0.857

ClbAlphaTableNumData=15

ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClbAlphaTableData=24.931,21.939,18.948,15.957,12.965,9.974,6.983,3.991,1.000,-1.991,-4.983,-7.974,-10.965,-13.957,-16.948

ClpAlphaTableNumData=15

ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClpAlphaTableData=5.137,3.962,2.975,2.175,1.564,1.141,0.906,0.859,1.000,1.329,1.846,2.552,3.445,4.526,5.796

ClrAlphaTableNumData=15

ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClrAlphaTableData=-5.890,-5.029,-4.168,-3.306,-2.445,-1.584,-0.723,0.139,1.000,1.861,2.723,3.584,4.445,5.306,6.168

CnpAlphaTableNumData=15

CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnpAlphaTableData=-49.987,-31.919,-19.274,-10.842,-5.584,-2.583,-1.005,-0.065,1.000,2.954,6.590,12.755,22.386,36.548,56.487

CnrAlphaTableNumData=15

CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnrAlphaTableData=27.132,19.708,13.472,8.424,4.564,1.891,0.406,0.109,1.000,3.079,6.345,10.800,16.442,23.272,31.290

XacMachTableNumData=7

XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40

XacMachTableStartX=0.00

XacMachTableData=-0.056,-0.049,-0.021,-0.680,-0.908,-0.991,-1.063

CheckStall=TRUE

CLmax=0.4360

AlphaStall=16.24

AlphaMax=23.04

AlphaDepart=24.99

Ymac=-1.41

MaxExtentPosition=-0.98,-1.87,-0.04

MinExtentPosition=-3.46, 1.31,-0.55

CollisionPoint[001]=-3.21, 0.12,-0.50

CollisionPoint[002]=-3.21,-1.34,-0.50

HasVortexEmitter=TRUE

VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter

VortexPosition=-3.32,0.11,-0.46

VortexG=2.5

SystemName[001]=LeftFlap

SystemName[002]=LeftAileron

SystemName[003]=LeftLEFlap

SystemName[004]=LeftWingtipStation

SystemName[005]=LeftWingStation

SystemName[006]=LeftOuterWingStation

SystemName[007]=LeftWingLight

 

[RightWing]

ParentComponentName=Fuselage

ModelNodeName=wing_right

DestroyedNodeName=wing_right_damaged

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

DamageRating=DESTROYED

MassFraction=0.088

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

LiftSurface=TRUE

CL0=0.0242

CLa=1.4569

CD0=0.0020

CDL=0.0059

Cmq=-0.2792

Cmad=0.0872

Cyb=-0.0430

Clb=0.0067

Clp=-0.1311

Clr=0.0428

Cnb=-0.2447

Cnp=0.0055

Cnr=-0.0116

CL0MachTableNumData=7

CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CL0MachTableStartX=0.00

CL0MachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CLaMachTableNumData=7

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=0.972,1.000,1.104,1.269,0.970,0.743,0.604

CD0MachTableNumData=7

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=1.818,1.000,1.042,2.339,1.566,1.308,1.164

CDLAlphaTableNumData=15

CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CDLAlphaTableData=29.160,21.160,14.440,9.000,4.840,1.960,0.360,0.040,1.000,3.240,6.760,11.560,17.640,25.000,33.640

CmqMachTableNumData=7

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=0.858,1.000,2.057,2.410,1.371,1.051,0.857

ClbAlphaTableNumData=15

ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClbAlphaTableData=24.931,21.939,18.948,15.957,12.965,9.974,6.983,3.991,1.000,-1.991,-4.983,-7.974,-10.965,-13.957,-16.948

ClpAlphaTableNumData=15

ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClpAlphaTableData=5.137,3.962,2.975,2.175,1.564,1.141,0.906,0.859,1.000,1.329,1.846,2.552,3.445,4.526,5.796

ClrAlphaTableNumData=15

ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClrAlphaTableData=-5.890,-5.029,-4.168,-3.306,-2.445,-1.584,-0.723,0.139,1.000,1.861,2.723,3.584,4.445,5.306,6.168

CnpAlphaTableNumData=15

CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnpAlphaTableData=-49.987,-31.919,-19.274,-10.842,-5.584,-2.583,-1.005,-0.065,1.000,2.954,6.590,12.755,22.386,36.548,56.487

CnrAlphaTableNumData=15

CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

 

loadout.ini

 

// Station 1 = Left Wingtip

// Station 2 = Right Wingtip

// Station 3 = Left Underwing Pylon

// Station 4 = Right Underwing Pylon

// Station 5 = Left Outer Underwing Pylon

// Station 6 = Right Outer Underwing Pylon

// Station 7 = Centerline

// Station 8 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

// Station 9 = Fueslage Sidewinder (replaces station 5)

 

[AirToAir]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[Attack]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

 

[sEAD]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

[Anti-Ship]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=M117

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

[Recon]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=F-104S

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=TANK_170F104S

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=Aspide

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=TANK_195F104S

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

 

that's what i've installed!

 

weapons and puyons data.ini

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[F104S]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.0,-0.370

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=100

AllowedWeaponClass=FT

AttachmentType=NATO

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=38.61

PylonDragArea=0.005

NoJettisionTank=TRUE

FuelTankName=F-104S

 

[LeftWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.324,-0.176,-0.518

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

 

[RightWingtipStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.324,-0.176,-0.518

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right

LaunchRailHeight=0.15

LaunchRailMass=24.95

 

[LeftWingtipStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.539,-0.154,-0.263

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.0,-11.0

LoadLimit=650.0

AllowedWeaponClass=FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

FuelTankName=TANK_170F104S

 

[RightWingtipStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.539,-0.154,-0.263

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.0,11.0

LoadLimit=650.0

AllowedWeaponClass=FT

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=

FuelTankName=TANK_170F104S

 

[sidewinderStation1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.596,3.601,-1.128

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,BOMB

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=44.02

PylonDragArea=0.015

 

[sidewinderStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.596,3.601,-1.128

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,BOMB

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=44.02

PylonDragArea=0.015

 

[LeftWingStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=8

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-2.704,0.30,-0.742

//AttachmentPosition=-2.704,0.162,-0.742

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=300

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,BOMB,IRM

AttachmentType=ITALY,USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightWingStation2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=9

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=2.704,0.30,-0.742

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=300

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,BOMB,IRM

AttachmentType=ITALY,USAF

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[LeftWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=10

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.675

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,FT,IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=TANK_195F104S

 

[RightWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=11

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.675

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,FT,IRM

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner

PylonMass=72.58

PylonDragArea=0.02

FuelTankName=TANK_195F104S

 

[CenterlineStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=12

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.73,-0.954

AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=1000

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN,GP

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon

PylonMass=57.61

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation1a]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=13

StationGroupID=7

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

[sidewinderStation2a]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=7

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.251,3.148,-1.090

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0

LoadLimit=250.0

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=USAF

ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

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The inis look just like their supposed to...

 

Ok, next dumb question....

 

Did you re-install the weapons pak?? The pylons and Aspide are in there. You gotta have the pak in to get them! :wink:

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

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The inis look just like their supposed to...

 

Ok, next dumb question....

 

Did you re-install the weapons pak?? The pylons and Aspide are in there. You gotta have the pak in to get them! :wink:

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

mmm no I think i've installed the bunyap's one from his site,but I repeat that I'm new and I don't know if there's an updated version around!

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Just a question. In your Weapon station you have this

 

weapons and puyons data.ini

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[F104S]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

 

 

I don't see F104S declared anywhere else. I don't know what happens when your StationID=1 and StationGroupID=1 are nonexistent

 

See if that fixes the problem

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Just a question. In your Weapon station you have this

 

weapons and puyons data.ini

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[F104S]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

 

 

I don't see F104S declared anywhere else. I don't know what happens when your StationID=1 and StationGroupID=1 are nonexistent

 

See if that fixes the problem

so capun,glad to talk to you!just to let u know how happy yo make me flying the b 47,I know that was released years ago,but finding it for a newest like I'm it a great surprise!Thanks!hope for a b-36 release?

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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!THAT'S IT!I've replaced the Ajundairs for the Jet-Zs with the tweaks and now finally works sooooooo good!!!thanks all i'm gonna make some widows (for the other side of course)!THIS IS A GREAT PLACE IF U ARE IN TROUBLE,THERE'S NOT ONE BUT MANY HELPING HANDS AND THIS IS THE GREATEST THING!THANKS ALL!

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No current plans on a B-36, sorry but real life is interfering with this hobby :)

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No current plans on a B-36, sorry but real life is interfering with this hobby :)

 

you're right!can u help me to configureand install the f 111?

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