Preventer 0 Posted July 26, 2003 Hey BEER, just got my rig up and running tonight, installation went flawless and went straight to 200 FSB out of the box :). Here are the specs. Abit NF7-S Rev 2.0 AMD 2100 Tbred 256 MB Kingston HyperX PC3500 Ati Radeon 9700 pro Win2K Pro Will post some 3dmark 2003 later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Preventer 0 Posted July 26, 2003 ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 3.44 cats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 26, 2003 holy smokes thats nice, i havnt tried uping the FSB yet on my xp2400 chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 0 Posted July 26, 2003 LOL Damn ya... We will see what you can do with mine...should be in the mail Monday... Cheers Beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 26, 2003 Looks like my xp2400 is a locked chip at 133mhz. i cant get above it. hopefully the xp3200 will be here sometime next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted July 26, 2003 Looks like my xp2400 is a locked chip at 133mhz. i cant get above it. If it is an XP2400 it is a Thoroughbred "B" & is unlocked. On an NF7-S (what you've got?) you shouldn't have any problems changing the multipliers to get it to run higher. 1 thing to watch out for is that NF7-S's tend to undervolt the vcore very slightly but it is enough to make a difference for a lot of folk. Both my XP2400/A7V266-E & XP1700/NF7-S V2.0 run just under 2.3Ghz quite happily with mediocre cooling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 26, 2003 The board i have is the ABIT NF7-S V2.0 with a new bios chip flashed to ver 1.7 bios I have never OC'd a system before. What few articles i have read, state that you need to raise the FSB untill the system hangs, and then back it off a little from there they say you make your multiplyer adjustments. What are your recomendations? it is currently running at 2ghz here is my cpu-z report: Number of CPUs 1 Cpu Name AMD Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Specification AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Family / Model / Stepping 6 8 1 Extended Family / Model 7 8 Package Socket A Core Stepping B0 Technology 0.13µ Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE CPU Clock Speed 1997.0 MHz Clock multiplier x 15.0 Front Side Bus Frequency 133.1 MHz Bus Speed 266.3 MHz L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2 Speed 1997.0 MHz (Full) L2 Location On Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes L2 Bus Width 64 bits Motherboard manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/ Motherboard model NF7-S/NF7 (nVidia-nForce2), 2.X BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD BIOS revision 6.00 PG BIOS release date 07/02/2003 Chipset nVidia nForce2 rev. C1 Southbridge nVidia MCP-T rev. A3 Sensor chip Winbond W83627HF RAM Type DDR-SDRAM RAM Size 1024 MBytes CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks RAS# Precharge 2 clocks Cycle Time (TRAS) 6 clocks AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0 AGP Data Transfert Rate 8x AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled AGP Aperture Size 128 MBytes Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1 (Build 2600) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 27, 2003 Got my board to run a 2100mhz 200x10.5 stable, ive had it up to 2280 but it wouldnt run win xp so im sticking with the 2100mhz setting for now it runs a xp2400 at 2ghz 166x15 stock. the OC records im seeing is varying from 2700-2900 MHZ on this motherboard with the same chip im going to try and learn more about the voltages and memory now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted July 27, 2003 Got my board to run a 2100mhz 200x10.5 stable, ive had it up to 2280 but it wouldnt run win xp so im sticking with the 2100mhz setting for now Up the vcore & that should stabilise it. 2.3Ghz is probably about right without serious cooling/mods/ experimentation Memory voltage might need upped too. it runs a xp2400 at 2ghz 166x15 stock. the OC records im seeing is varying from 2700-2900 MHZ on this motherboard with the same chip. Don't expect to get the same - for that 2.7-2.9 they wiil be running at least watercooled , they may have done some volt-mods etc. too. Some people put a lot of effort & equipment into overclocking. I recommend that you brows the ABIT USA & nForcersHQ boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 27, 2003 I hit 2300mhz with a 200x11.5 i upped the vcore toa 1.8 and ddr to 2.9 so far my gain is 300mhz by adjusting the FSB, multiplyer and Vcore voltage unfortunately it crashes when i run a benchmark or winxp crashes for a usb failure, i am leaving it a 200x11 for 2200mhz trying to figure out some stability here, with a 1.8vcore and 2.8 vddr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted July 27, 2003 Just noticed in another post that you are running PC2700 RAM. 200 FSB is obviously out of spec for that so it may be that your RAM can't handle the FSB & tight timings. You might want to relax the timings a bit or try a lower FSB but higher multiplier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 27, 2003 it is 333mhz ddr ram? right now its running att 333mhz and 200x11 for 22oomhz stable. I'll look into it later this afternoon. I was begining to think that the ram was the issue. What do you recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted July 27, 2003 It is 333Mhz (2x166FSB) RAM but you are running it at 400Mhz (2x200FSB ) assuming that you are running the RAM in sync with FSB (which you want to do as on nForce 2 that gives the best performance). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 27, 2003 Im beginning to see your angle. When i first reset the Cmos the bios will show a 1500mhz @ 333 ddr. After I enter bios, it defaults it to a 2000mhz @266 ddr with a 133x15 setting and recognises this as a xp2400 chip. i set the pc on a 166x13.5 and it gives me a 333mhz ram at a 2250 clock speed and so far its stable. this has gotten me closer to my speed goal of 2.3mhz SO I take it your recommending 400 MHZ ram? By matching my goal of a 200 FSB speed with 200x2 DDR that i can achieve a more stable and faster overclock with aggressive memory timings? I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel...or PIPE, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF 8 Posted July 27, 2003 Well, you get your speed by a combination of FSB & multiplier. Sometimes you can get a better result with a lower FSB & higher multiplier (although there are benefits to a higher FSB) so you might want to see if it will do 166 x14. Alternatively, assuming that you are running RAM & FSB in sync you might want to try relaxing the timings on your memory @ 200FSBx11.5 to see if it improves stability. Btw, how are your temps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 0 Posted July 28, 2003 My machine is on the way to Mississippi for Preventer to curse at... I am sure he will post the marks if he gets it running (I am sure he will), 2.7 AMD, Radeon 9800 Pro and OCZ Matched 3500 DDR Ram. likely be beginning next week til he gets to it :D. Got your email Buff, will reply tonite hopefully. Cheers Beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrMudd Posted July 28, 2003 cpu shutdown temp at 70-C cpu warning at 65-C cpu Temp 58-c ( been running for 7 hours) Stock Cooling, Case has a large Exhaust fan on the Left side. Raidmax style case. 166x13.5 @ 2250 MHZ Vcore 1.8 Ram @333mhz v 2.6 I have ran it on a 1.9 Vcore and 200x11.5 for 2300MHZ but she started heating up towards the end of 3dmark2001 benchmark and set off the alarm she was around 67 degrees... Gotta love that cpu temp shutoff feature :shock: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Preventer 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Yup you def. need a ram upgrade, for $70 you can get a 256mb stick of Kingston HyperX pc3500 from newegg.com. I have mine up to 217 fsb which is the rated speed for the ram 434mhz (217x2). Mem timings 11.2.2.2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 0 Posted August 1, 2003 OK Preventer is getting my machine today... I hope the 9800 Pro and RAM is Not Toast... Brand New 2700 AMD arriving there too... I hope the CPU was the only issue... Post them marks if ya getting running... Soda's on the ship til Xmas on Beer if ya do! CHeers Beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites