+ST0RM Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I'm going through the Golan Stalemate campaign and editing it for the aircraft/skins that I've got to change things up a bit from the defaults. I'd like to add the RF-4E to the campaign, (Nos 119 and 201 Sqdns) but the current aircraft are the Kurnass for each. Can I add an additional AirUnit for those squadrons with the RF-4E? I've been through the KB and Bunyap's tutorial, but it didnt mention this at all. Thanks! Storm Quote
+Spectre_USA Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Does it need to be an addition? I usually replace the aircraft instead, as there is less messing around. Just replace the designation "F-4E_Kurnass" with the EXACT name of the desired replacement, it should show up under the squadron name under the campaign menu. At least that is what I've done to add variety and new aircraft to campaigns... Quote
+ST0RM Posted November 19, 2008 Author Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks, but I did know about that. I was really wanting to give the unit the ability to perform both missions within the campaign, since they were a mixed-mission squadron. -S Quote
+Spectre_USA Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Well, you can always tweak the percentages below to get more or less of certain types of missions. At least, if that is what you are talking about. I just do mild tweaks, I leave the sparkly stuff to the guys around here with big brains... Quote
jtin Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Add another airunit to the campaign_data.ini; use one of the existing units as a template and edit what you need. In the campaign.ini add another unit: [uSAFUnit001] UnitName=10th TFS, 50th TFW <- does not have to correspond w/squadron in squadronlist.ini ForceID=1 <- usually "good" is 1, "bad" is 2; outlined in campagin_data.ini UnitID=3 <- remeber that this is within the force; it is counted from the top down, skipping any units (in this case in force 2) StartDate=1960 DescFile=10thDesc.txt StartText=Campaign1Start1.txt AircraftType=F-100D Also don't forget to edit the number of squadrons if you're adding them to a carrier. Quote
+ST0RM Posted November 20, 2008 Author Posted November 20, 2008 Ok, since it seemed this was uncharted country, I went ahead and did it. I added two additional AirUnits, 1 each for 119 and 201 Squadrons and equipped them with the RF-4E, renumbering everything in the data.ini and the woicamp5.ini Went into the game and for that campain, the units show up right after each other and reflect the different aircraft. But when I selected that campaign and it loaded up, the F-4E hangar screen came up. The game defaulted to the Kurnass, even though everything pointed to the RF in the second entry. So I guess I've answered my question. Only one entry per unit, unless I renamed it in a minor way, ie [AirUnit013] AircraftType=F-4E_IDF Squadron=119IDF [AirUnit014] AircraftType=RF-4E_IDF Squadron=119IDFr [israelUnit012] UnitName=No. 119 Bat Squadron ForceID=1 UnitID=13 StartDate=04/01/1974 AircraftType=F-4E_IDF DescFile=woi5Start.txt StartText=woi5Start.txt [israelUnit012] UnitName=No. 119r Bat Squadron ForceID=1 UnitID=14 StartDate=07/01/1976 AircraftType=RF-4E_IDF DescFile=woi5Start.txt StartText=woi5Start.txt Let me think about it some more. I like flying Recce missions, but it would be nice to have some RF-4s running their own recce runs flown by the AI. Storm Quote
malibu43 Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Ok, since it seemed this was uncharted country, I went ahead and did it. I added two additional AirUnits, 1 each for 119 and 201 Squadrons and equipped them with the RF-4E, renumbering everything in the data.ini and the woicamp5.ini Went into the game and for that campain, the units show up right after each other and reflect the different aircraft. But when I selected that campaign and it loaded up, the F-4E hangar screen came up. The game defaulted to the Kurnass, even though everything pointed to the RF in the second entry. So I guess I've answered my question. Only one entry per unit, unless I renamed it in a minor way, ie ... First, I wouldn't recommend re-numbering everything - that's a real easy way to screw something up. I would just add the new squadrons at the end. Second, the unit names shouldn't really matter. I've never tried two squadrons with the same name, but it might work. Can you post the campaign data with your changes highlighted? I've messed around with this a lot lately, and might be able to help. Quote
+ST0RM Posted November 20, 2008 Author Posted November 20, 2008 First, I wouldn't recommend re-numbering everything - that's a real easy way to screw something up. I was quite thorough and ensured everything was numbered correctly. I dont like to simply stick the new squadron entries at the end, as they will appear out of sequence. Can you post the campaign data with your changes highlighted? I've messed around with this a lot lately, and might be able to help. Deleted it after it didnt work. I think the course I'll pursue next will be an separate squadron for these jets. No. 119 Sqn 'The Bats' Det1 for the Recces. This should get past the game's inability to have more than one squadron entry. -S Quote
+ST0RM Posted November 21, 2008 Author Posted November 21, 2008 Success! Created two new additional entries for 119 and 201 Sqns in the Squadronlist and then edited the campaigns to include the RF-4s. Works great and I dont lose my pure fighters. So, if anyone wanted to add this to the mission/campaign building section of the KB, the engine will not allow multiple entries from the same squadron name. A slight variation must be made. Another example would be in Vietnam. You had some FAC units (TASS) that flew the O-2 and OV-10 within the same squadron. Back to editing. Storm Quote
malibu43 Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Success! Created two new additional entries for 119 and 201 Sqns in the Squadronlist and then edited the campaigns to include the RF-4s. Works great and I dont lose my pure fighters. So, if anyone wanted to add this to the mission/campaign building section of the KB, the engine will not allow multiple entries from the same squadron name. A slight variation must be made. Another example would be in Vietnam. You had some FAC units (TASS) that flew the O-2 and OV-10 within the same squadron. Back to editing. Storm What I was getting at is that you don't need to add anything to the squadronlist.ini. Here is an entry from my modified WOE campaign: [AirUnit096] AircraftType=Tornado_GR Squadron=617RAF UnitName=No. 617 Squadron ForceID=1 Nation=RAF DefaultTexture=617 BaseArea=Brüggen Airbase ... 617RAF isn't in the squadron list.ini. If you add the 'UnitName=' line your squadron doesn't have to be one from squadronlist.ini, and the unit name will still show up in the beginning of the campaign. This way you can add whatever squadrons you want in the campaign_data.ini and just make the names whatever you want. So if the original entry looks like this: [AirUnit013] AircraftType=F-4E_IDF Squadron=119IDF You could then add: [AirUnit014] AircraftType=RF-4E_IDF Squadron=119IDF Rec UnitName=119 IDF Recon Section (or something like that...) You might even be able to leave the squadron for AirUnit14 as just "119IDF", I think. Then in campaign.ini... [israelUnit012] UnitName=No. 119 Bat Squadron ForceID=1 UnitID=13 StartDate=04/01/1974 AircraftType=F-4E_IDF DescFile=woi5Start.txt StartText=woi5Start.txt [israelUnit013] UnitName=No. 119r Bat Squadron Recon ForceID=1 UnitID=14 StartDate=07/01/1976 AircraftType=RF-4E_IDF DescFile=woi5Start.txt StartText=woi5Start.txt Then you'd be all set w/o any editing of the squadronlist.ini required. Also, I have the 13 in bold above, because it was 12 in your post above. If that was the case when you tried it, that would explain why it didn't work. You can't have two unit 12's. PS - and one last thing regarding inserting and renumbering vs adding to the end. You could add the squadron at the end in the campaign_data.ini, but then have it's corresponding entry in the campaign.ini file be in the correct location, as long as your unitID is pointing to the right thing. That would be only half as much renumbering, but maybe a little more confusing when trying to compare units between the two files... Edited November 25, 2008 by malibu43 Quote
malibu43 Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Also, looking through the campaign_data.ini for the falklands mod, you don't even need a squadron defined. [AirUnit002] AircraftType=A-4C_A UnitName=Grupo 4 de Caza / I ForceID=2 Nation=Argentina DefaultTexture=camo2 BaseArea=San Julian AirBase ... However, you may end up without decals if you do that. Anyway, I've had mulitiple units with the same squadron before. It shouldn't matter. Quote
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