For those who have YAP helos in SF2V ,a question

[+X RAY]

Ok I have just put all of YAP1 and 2 helos in my SF2 install,correcting rolling radius,put their weps systems working and so...

But a strange thing happened when you decide to start your game in the ramp.

Your Huey for example,working perfect,the others behind or beside u have their tail rotor on but the main off,same when they take off.

If you start your game in flight no issues coming all rotors working.

I know that somebody have convert Yap helos like me here,just to know suggestion if my issue can be solved!

Thanks

[+ST0RM]

Reduce main rotor diameter to 8.0 and they will spin. Should be the Engine3 in the data.ini

Edited July 30, 2009 by ST0RM

[+X RAY]

Thanks a lot!

And for example:

inside object folder there's a few files and .bmp set fe (like Army or Usmc or Crates,MISSILEOBJECT and so)

For example ARMY and USMC go tho weapons folder into Armyassault and MarineAssault folders (created with merge option in KB)

Their effects are in the MISSILEOBJECT,ok they're showing properly but effects are missing,what can I do to have 'em and with these free files that float into object folder?

[+X RAY]

Reduce main rotor diameter to 8.0 and they will spin. Should be the Engine3 in the data.ini

 

 

[Engine2]

SystemType=PROP_ENGINE

InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL

EngineID=2

SLPowerDry=2001.1

ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrottleRate=0.5

AltitudeTableNumData=10

AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000

AltitudeTableStartX=0.0

AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

TSFCM0=0.90

TSFCM1=1.26

SpinnerNodeName=rotosmth

StaticPropNodeName=rotoblad

SlowPropNodeName=rotoblad2

FastPropNodeName=rotoblad2

SlowPropRPM=100

FastPropRPM=900

MaxPropRPM=1000

IdlePropRPM=300

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

BSFC=0.00298

ExhaustEmitterName=veryCleanExhaustEmitter

ExhaustPosition=-0.6779,0.3508,2.8522

FireSuppression=TRUE

;MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.90,1.00

;MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-2.10, 1.55

AnimationID=

MaxPowerAnimationTime=5

MinPowerAnimationTime=1

PropRotationDirection=

ReversePropOrientation=TRUE

ConstantSpeedProp=FALSE

NumBlades=2

PropDiameter=13.245-------------------------------------------------------------REDUCED TO 8.0 BUT DON'T WORK!

MomentOfInertia=2.25

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00

 

[Engine3]

SystemType=PROP_ENGINE

InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL

EngineID=3

SLPowerDry=2001.1

ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrustPosition=0.00,0.00,0.00

ThrottleRate=0.5

AltitudeTableNumData=10

AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000

AltitudeTableStartX=0.0

AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

TSFCM0=0.90

TSFCM1=1.26

SpinnerNodeName=trotsmth

StaticPropNodeName=B_TailRotorBlades02

SlowPropNodeName=C_TailRotorBlades02

FastPropNodeName=C_TailRotorBlades02

SlowPropRPM=200

FastPropRPM=300

MaxPropRPM=1800

IdlePropRPM=200

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

BSFC=0.00298

ExhaustEmitterName=VeryCleanExhaustEmitter

ExhaustPosition=0.6356,0.3508,2.8522

FireSuppression=FALSE

;MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.90, 1.0

;MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-2.10, 0.55

MinManifoldPressure=30

MaxManifoldPressure=100

AnimationID=

MaxPowerAnimationTime=5

MinPowerAnimationTime=1

PropRotationDirection=

ReversePropOrientation=FALSE

ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE

NumBlades=2

PropDiameter=2.67

MomentOfInertia=2.25

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00

[+331Killerbee]

Try This.......

 

1)

 

[Engine2]

SystemType=PROP_ENGINE

InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL

EngineID=2

SLPowerDry=1558834.0

ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrottleRate=0.5

AltitudeTableNumData=10

AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000

AltitudeTableStartX=0.0

AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

TSFCM0=0.90

TSFCM1=1.26

SpinnerNodeName=MainRotor

RotationAxis=Z-Axis

StaticPropNodeName=Rotor01

SlowPropNodeName=Rotor02

FastPropNodeName=Rotor01

SlowPropRPM=950

FastPropRPM=1000

MaxPropRPM=1200

IdlePropRPM=950

BSFC=0.00298

ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter

ExhaustPosition=-0.6779,0.3508,2.8522

FireSuppression=FALSE

;MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.90,-0.55

;MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-2.10, 0.55

AnimationID=

MaxPowerAnimationTime=5

MinPowerAnimationTime=1

PropRotationDirection=

ReversePropOrientation=FALSE

ConstantSpeedProp=FALSE

NumBlades=2

PropDiameter=0.245

MomentOfInertia=2.00

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00

 

 

2) Effects are handled just as "Weapons" Effects are handled in SF2. The MissileObject.INI is worthless. The Weapons are "Plug and Play". Refer to the KB on Weapons Effects. You'll see the Effects Entries are added to the Weapon's Data.ini........

 

 

3) By reducing the Wing Span for "Large" and "Small" Parking in the Airfield.INI's of the Terrain to 1.0 Meters Keeps the Game from using Random "Parking" to allow Use of YAP's Parked Aircraft if You choose to do so.....

 

 

 

4) You owe Me some Money for this "Consulting" for this YAP Bit. Send the Bill to "Zero".............J/K

 

 

331KillerBee

Edited July 30, 2009 by 331Killerbee

[+X RAY]

Try This.......

 

1)

 

[Engine2]

SystemType=PROP_ENGINE

InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL

EngineID=2

SLPowerDry=1558834.0

ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0

ThrottleRate=0.5

AltitudeTableNumData=10

AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000

AltitudeTableStartX=0.0

AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

TSFCM0=0.90

TSFCM1=1.26

SpinnerNodeName=MainRotor

RotationAxis=Z-Axis

StaticPropNodeName=Rotor01

SlowPropNodeName=Rotor02

FastPropNodeName=Rotor01

SlowPropRPM=950

FastPropRPM=1000

MaxPropRPM=1200

IdlePropRPM=950

BSFC=0.00298

ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter

ExhaustPosition=-0.6779,0.3508,2.8522

FireSuppression=FALSE

;MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.90,-0.55

;MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-2.10, 0.55

AnimationID=

MaxPowerAnimationTime=5

MinPowerAnimationTime=1

PropRotationDirection=

ReversePropOrientation=FALSE

ConstantSpeedProp=FALSE

NumBlades=2

PropDiameter=0.245

MomentOfInertia=2.00

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0

PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00

 

 

2) Effects are handled just as "Weapons" Effects are handled in SF2. The MissileObject.INI is worthless. The Weapons are "Plug and Play". Refer to the KB on Weapons Effects. You'll see the Effects Entries are added to the Weapon's Data.ini........

 

 

3) By reducing the Wing Span for "Large" and "Small" Parking in the Airfield.INI's of the Terrain to 1.0 Meters Keeps the Game from using Random "Parking" to allow Use of YAP's Parked Aircraft if You choose to do so.....

 

 

 

4) You owe Me some Money for this "Consulting" for this YAP Bit. Send the Bill to "Zero".............J/K

 

 

331KillerBee

 

Thanks fo your help,but now:

 

My Cobra (YAP2) has a Zulu 4 bladed main rotor (and stopped)

My Hueys are stopped again too

 

before the issue afflicts my team,now bot me and 'em!

 

I've extracted from missileobject the "Special weps effects" like Armyassault and so I've pasted in their datas into the respective folders,but nothing more....

[+331Killerbee]

Thanks fo your help,but now:

 

My Cobra (YAP2) has a Zulu 4 bladed main rotor (and stopped)

My Hueys are stopped again too

 

before the issue afflicts my team,now bot me and 'em!

 

I've extracted from missileobject the "Special weps effects" like Armyassault and so I've pasted in their datas into the respective folders,but nothing more....

 

Don't know what to tell Ya'. The Cobra Blades are a Known Issue. But the Hueys should be no Problem. All Mine work with the Data above, Plus others that I've sent it to works for them also. Lapes, Assault and other "Special" Effects work in SF2......I've got them working. All of them. There are Posts here that explain how to get them working. Example, Diego's Post on Lapes.

 

I'm sorry I can't be of any futher Help. Had this been a "Freeware" Product, I'd bust My Tail to try to help You. But since it a "Commerical Product", I don't get compensated for fixing their Product. So I must refer You to Mr. John Shelton and YAP Team for any Support of their Product and compatibility questions regarding their Product. They get Your Money, They ought to help You out with Support.......If not....I'd stop buying...Call the better Business Bureau....

 

331KillerBee

[+ravenclaw_007]

i have a similar problem with the Yap AH-1G the only difference is as soon as i touch the ground or if i try to take of from ground the tailrotor stops if i start in air no problem all rotors work fine

 

i try to change the diameter of the tailrotor but no success

[+Deuces]

There is nothing broke with the YAP2 helos. The problem is you're trying to use them in SF2 for which they were never intended to be used in. You can try to email their support but since it's not YAP that's broke you will most likely need to figure it out on your own.

[+331Killerbee]

Or better Yet, Wait for Overkills's AH-1's......They'll be for SF2 and with much more Features....

[+ravenclaw_007]

There is nothing broke with the YAP2 helos. The problem is you're trying to use them in SF2 for which they were never intended to be used in. You can try to email their support but since it's not YAP that's broke you will most likely need to figure it out on your own.

 

sorry and my apologies

i never say that the yap helicopters are broken it is more of a general problem with helicopters in the game i have the same problem with helicopters from capun as well and this is only a way of asking if somebody has found a solution to this problems

as we all know now to change the diameter is one way to keep the rotor turning but for the tailrotor i have no solution found yet

[+331Killerbee]

Agreed! I never said anything was "Broke" either. I guess it's a matter of a "Commerical Product" trying to be "Exclusive" using the Program from somebody else.....And the "Originator" moving on.......

 

So, in other words.......The Commerical Product is "Limited"....

[+Deuces]

Sorry , picked the wrong verb or adjective, I sucked in English. There are plenty of bright minds here. Someone will figure it out I'm sure.

Edited July 30, 2009 by Deuces

[+331Killerbee]

Sorry , picked the wrong verb or adjective, I sucked in English. There are plenty of bright minds here. Someone will figure it out I'm sure.

 

It's all Cool EB. And none of My comments are directed at You personally. You need to know that.

 

It's that I've got both the products running well in SF2 Series. And the "CEO" of YAP has rubbed Me the wrong way on more than one Occasion...... (That's My Problem and I'll take it elsewhere)

 

331KillerBee

Edited July 30, 2009 by 331Killerbee

[+Old Diego]

The problems with YAP helicopters is that the FM is not built with the new SF2 game engine in mind. They are stuck in the older game engine and most likely won't be fixed due to FM creator laziness...maybe since YAP1 is no longer supported, you could consider it abandonware.

 

If you have an engine/rotor that does not turn, look at the data within the multiple engines to see where it is located XYZ and either adjust the diameter or the location in the Z axis. This "should" fix the rotors stopping. I know because I have rebuilt my FMs to work under the SF2 engine with no problems.

 

The UH-1s are very broken, BTW. They have lots of issues with the landing gear...known since they were released.

[+X RAY]

I'm just doing that conversion just to fill the gap til Overkill ones will be done that's the reason of this post,YAP's Cobras are better than older ones but nothing to do with the upcoming ones!