Updated FMs No6 - Several Early Allied Plane FMs

[+peter01 2]

New FMs for the Morane H, Morane L (and 2 two seater variants), Morane N (and one Field Mod with no Spinner), Avro 504D, Martinsyde G100, Be2c Field Mod, and the four Bristol Scouts. Loadout files are included where necessary.

 

As quack is doing some excellent new skins for the Bristol Scouts, it piqued my interest so I thought I'd revisit the Scout FMs as they still needed more work. They may still do, but they are better. Also did the different versions.

 

The Morane N Field Mod is without a spinner. Common to keep the engine cool. I think it looks better.

 

The Be2c Field Mod uses the Be2c model, less the observer with the gun fixed and firing forward. The later Be12 was basically a BE2C with the forward cockpit covered, and a larger engine, so perhaps some intrepid souls tried it out with their own Be2cs - hence this plane. It is pretty useless as a fighter of course. But it is fun to fly and adds to the early war period I think.

 

 

No6 2010 FMs - Several Early Allied Planes.zip

 

 

IMPORTANT

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These are for FE1.

 

You must have installed "FE Nov 2008 Game Files" component within the "UPDATED FE Plane FMs for Nov 2008 Patch" for everything such as guns, loadouts and pilot models to work properly. It is available here at CombatAce: First Eagles by Thirdwire> First Eagles Add-On Aircraft> Flight Models.

 

 

INSTALLATION

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1) I recommend you backup the folders of the above aircraft before installing.

 

2) To use the Morane N and Be2c Field Mod versions, first copy your current MoraneN and BE2C folders in the Objects/Aircraft folder of your main First Eagles directory and rename the copied folders as follows:

 

Copy of your MoraneN folder -> "MoraneN-FieldMod"

Copy of your BE2C folder -> "BE2C-FieldMod"

 

3) Place all the files from this download into the corresponding plane folders in the /Objects/Aircraft of your First Eagles installation.

Edited February 18, 2010 by peter01

[don246 65]

Thanks Peter.

[+christian59 8]

Thank you

 

your work id always a good new

 

Christian

[+whiteknight06604 934]

another great addition.thanks.

[+peter01 2]

Thanks guys.

[Southside Bucky 1]

Hi Peter.

 

I've only had the time to try out the two early Bristol Scouts.

 

Without wanting to come across as being critical or pedantic (You know how highly I regard your work :yes:), I found them to be just a bit too capable. Hard to put into words, but in a nutshell I think they might be just a little over-powered?

 

The early 80hp Gnome engined version had a recorded performance of around 92-95mph at ground level, which would equate to around 85 or so at 10,000ft. However, those performance figures would be for an unarmed machine. Bolting on a side mounted Lewis to the fuselage would take a good 5mph or more off those figures, I reckon.

 

Lanoe Hawker wrote a letter in June '15, stating:

 

"I have a beautiful little toy, a new Bristol Scout that goes at 80 and climbs 5 or 600 feet a minute!"

 

 

Just my opinion though.

 

Bucky

Edited February 20, 2010 by Southside Bucky

[+peter01 2]

Hi Peter.

 

I've only had the time to try out the two early Bristol Scouts.

 

Without wanting to come across as being critical or pedantic (You know how highly I regard your work :yes:), I found them to be just a bit too capable. Hard to put into words, but in a nutshell I think they might be just a little over-powered?

 

The early 80hp Gnome engined version had a recorded performance of around 92-95mph at ground level, which would equate to around 85 or so at 10,000ft. However, those performance figures would be for an unarmed machine. Bolting on a side mounted Lewis to the fuselage would take a good 5mph or more off those figures, I reckon.

 

Lanoe Hawker wrote a letter in June '15, stating:

 

"I have a beautiful little toy, a new Bristol Scout that goes at 80 and climbs 5 or 600 feet a minute!"

 

 

Just my opinion though.

 

Bucky

 

 

You could be right about the extra guns Bucky, and it would have slowed them down, maybe a few miles per hour. Ah, knew doing variations would be a problem ... just kidding, it is a good point generally.

 

But the Bristol Scout was a capable plane and very nice to fly (for it's time), much underestimated, and never really used much with guns whilst others had them fitted. Why is one of those mysteries.

 

On that basis these Scout FMs are a match for the Fokker Es, and that is probably underdoing them!

 

But, like I said you have a point, and there is an easy way to slow them down (and hence reduce capability) without causing problems with the FM too much or at all. I won't be redoing them (just too many things to do and I'd never fly that particular Scout), but here's how you can change it. I gave it a quick try and it seems okay and takeoff is still fine.

 

Swap the Landing Gears section in data.ini with the following. The change is the DragArea=, and these numbers will slow it down to about 82mph at sea level, it is currently 95mph. Increase or decrease to suit, within reason (problems can occur with too much variation).

 

// Landing Gears -------------------------

 

[LeftMainGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=FALSE

DragArea=0.22

ModelNodeName=Gear_L

ShockAnimationID=-1

ShockStroke=0.07

SpringFactor=1.3

DampingFactor=2.0

WheelNodeName=Hub_L

RotationAxis=X-Axis

RollingRadius=0.38

CastoringWheel=FALSE

RollingCoefficient=0.15

MaxLoadFactor=4.0

 

[RightMainGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=FALSE

DragArea=0.22

ModelNodeName=Gear_R

ShockAnimationID=-1

ShockStroke=0.07

SpringFactor=1.3

DampingFactor=2.0

WheelNodeName=Hub_R

RotationAxis=X-Axis

RollingRadius=0.38

CastoringWheel=FALSE

RollingCoefficient=0.15

MaxLoadFactor=4.0

 

[TailGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=FALSE

IsSkid=TRUE

HideGearNode=FALSE

ModelNodeName=Tailskid

ShockAnimationID=-1

ShockStroke=0.05

SpringFactor=1.3

DampingFactor=1.8

ContactPoint=0.0000,-4.1701,-0.2504

RollingCoefficient=0.5

MaxLoadFactor=6.0

CastoringWheel=TRUE

CastoringNodeName=

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

Steerable=FALSE

MaxSteeringSpeed=8.0

Locking=TRUE

MaxSteeringAngle=-6.0

InputName=YAW_CONTROL

ReverseInput=TRUE

ControlRate=0.005

Edited February 20, 2010 by peter01

[Southside Bucky 1]

 

...But the Bristol Scout was a capable plane and very nice to fly (for it's time), much underestimated, and never really used much with guns whilst others had them fitted. Why is one of those mysteries...

 

 

 

 

Yeah, it was way ahead of its time...It could and should've been built in greater numbers, with an upper wing Lewis fitted as standard. If it hadda been, I think history would have remembered that mid 1915 period as the "Bristol Scourge", rather than the "Fokker Scourge".

 

Trouble was, at that time, because of the lack of any kind of interrupter gear to allow a forward firing gun, Britain's aircraft developers thought the way forward was with pusher types: The Vickers FB5, DH2, FE2a, and the FE8 were all in service or being developed during that period. Hindsight's 20/20 I suppose...

 

Thanks for taking the time 'n trouble explaining that 'DragArea' tip. I'll try it out over the weekend.

 

Have a good'un BTW.