Von Paulus 8 Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Yes, it seems. But it's not working as it should. It's not even in dual channel. That machine that I was speaking, it didn't had problems in the first day. But soon it started, of course. I'm sorry Olham, I can only say and advise what I would do for myself. I would never left the machine that way, specially overclocking and all. Edit: Besides now you can exchange the memory if needed. Edited April 9, 2011 by Von Paulus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 9, 2011 Hmmm - I wonder if they will take it back a second time? I had already changed the first pair. But I guess you're right, von Paulus. So it seems, I must travel there once more on Monday. Sigh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 9, 2011 Hmmm - I wonder if they will take it back a second time? I had already changed the first pair. But I guess you're right, von Paulus. So it seems, I must travel there once more on Monday. Sigh! It could be a motherboard problem also, Olham. If they sold the hardware, they can test it, I think. Even if you've to pay a fee for test. I was reading in Asus forum: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20110318065428398&board_id=1&model=P8P67&page=2&count=18 But like I said, it isn't suppose to be working like that. The 2 blue sockets must be populated. What are the exact reference of the Corsair memories? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 9, 2011 Problem is: I bought the mobo via AMAZON, and the memory at a local dealer. I can't remember the Corsair reference, but you can be assured, that they are in the list for this board on the ASUS website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 9, 2011 Problem is: I bought the mobo via AMAZON, and the memory at a local dealer. I can't remember the Corsair reference, but you can be assured, that they are in the list for this board on the ASUS website. Ok. Well, you've to explain the case, that the motherboard is not working with the memories in the correct place. Ask them, if they can test your motherboard with other memories. What is Roland's opinion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 9, 2011 Roland was glad to get it working at all. He said, I should first call ASUS on Monday, and then see what they say about it. Thanks for the tip about KINGSTON. The dealer, where I changed the memory sticks, had also mentioned KINGSTON might be a choice with better chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) It would be better, if you could take him (the dealer) the rig and he could try the memories out there. I wouldn'«t mind to pay in this situation. Because , I don't know how Asus is in Germany, but it would give you hard time if it was here. Edited April 9, 2011 by Von Paulus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 10, 2011 Just found the shopping note for the first memory set again. Those were two CORSAIR CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 It would be relatively easy send the board back to AMAZON, but I don't think it's the board's fault. Maybe I really should take the whole rig to the shop, and they should use their experience? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted April 10, 2011 Hi Olham, Sorry to hear you're running into problems. If it's any consolation, there are a number of others who've run into similar and sometimes identical issues with that specific model of Corsair RAM on the ASUS motherboards. It's not exclusive to that particular motherboard either. Paulo has offered very good advice here. As he mentioned, you could try setting the RAM's timings and voltage manually through the BIOS as opposed to relying on SPD values. Another thing I suggest you try is enabling the Extreme Memory Profile or "XMP" option for that RAM in your BIOS. That may also force it to behave itself. It's worked for me in the past. There are also 6 BIOS updates for that specific motherboard available on the ASUS site. Might be a good idea to check your BIOS revision and have your tech friend update it to the most recent one available. If those steps don't solve the problem, grab a set of the Kingston memory with the same or similar specs. Woudn't be a bad idea to cross-reference the QVL before you pull the trigger. On a side note, I haven't used anything other than G.Skill memory in the last dozen or so builds I've done, and haven't run into a single memory related issue that wasn't easily solved. Mind you, I haven't attempted to run it in the P7P55 that Paulo mentioned earlier. Kingston would probably be your best bet strictly in terms of compatibility. I wouldn't be blaming the motherboard for your issues...........not just yet anyway. Far too early to be considering an RMA on the board. Keep us up to speed please... Cheers, Parky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) It would be relatively easy send the board back to AMAZON, but I don't think it's the board's fault. Maybe I really should take the whole rig to the shop, and they should use their experience? I think, in the end this would be the best. What Parky said is absolutely correct, but I think that Olham's tech friend, probably had already tried a few things. In the shop, they might have different type of memories which they can try. Maybe they even have Gskill, which are usually faster than Kingston. Edited April 10, 2011 by Von Paulus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 11, 2011 Now I have contacted ASUS Support, and we went through several proceedures / memory stick placings. All logical placing failed, as I knew already. Then he asked me if I had the latest BIOS update. When I told him the number, he realised, that mine was even more up to date than his. His last advice was to go to the Advanced EFI BIOS and set the AI Overclock Tuner to: XMP I did that; and later also tried setting it to "Auto". The memory is getting detected correct. Even those numbers (latencies?) were right: 9-9-9-24-2 The frequency was given correct with 1600. Now I will have to send the mobo back. And I can only hope, that it will all turn out right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted April 11, 2011 What a bummer Olham...very frustrating for you///hope you get it sorted quickly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 11, 2011 Just tried to arrange it all with AMAZON. But as this buy from from another dealer (no AMAZON direct buy), I will not get the new board sent in advance, like they normally do. I must send this to the other company, they check it, and then I will get a new board sent. Altogether a week, minimum. And I need to work with it. A real bummer that is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted April 11, 2011 Just tried to arrange it all with AMAZON. But as this buy from from another dealer (no AMAZON direct buy), I will not get the new board sent in advance, like they normally do. I must send this to the other company, they check it, and then I will get a new board sent. Altogether a week, minimum. And I need to work with it. A real bummer that is! Ouch...this is why I don;t order too many components online...If you buy from a small, local PC Guy..you have a quicker turnaround Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Just tried to arrange it all with AMAZON. But as this buy from from another dealer (no AMAZON direct buy), I will not get the new board sent in advance, like they normally do. I must send this to the other company, they check it, and then I will get a new board sent. Altogether a week, minimum. And I need to work with it. A real bummer that is! Hmm. Why didn't you check the memory guy? There's a great probability that's a memory compatibility and not board "malfunction". Unless you exchanging by other board..... Ouch...this is why I don;t order too many components online...If you buy from a small, local PC Guy..you have a quicker turnaround Yes, that's a good move. Even if you have to pay a little more, if you buy most of the hardware there, he'll try to help. That's what I did, when I had the shop. Unfortunately most people begun to buy online and above all in the great retailers, and so the little shop broke. Edited April 11, 2011 by Von Paulus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted April 11, 2011 Unfortunately most people begun to buy online and above all in the great retailers, and so the little shop broke. yes..and thats where it all started to go wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 11, 2011 The "memory guy" offered me to bring the rig to them and let it there. They would charge 60,- Euro for memory build-in and check. No way. And: we tried two different sets of memory. The second one is definitely in both compatibility lists: ASUS and CORSAIR. The main reason why the ASUS tech man said the board might be kaputt, was that the memory sticks only worked in the two right banks - B1 and B2 - one black, one blue socket. Absolutely unnormal. I have checked in EFI BIOS - the sticks were the right frequency and even the correct latency shown. Still though, the board did not operate, when they were in the correct banks (A2 and B2, both blue). No other configuration worked, but B1 and B2. That's a pity about your shop, von Paulus - I think you were one of the "good dealers". I say "Good bye" for a week or even more now. Olham will be offline for a week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 11, 2011 Good luck, Olham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted April 11, 2011 You really should get that laptop, Olham. Good luck with your rig upgrades. I buy most of my computer stuff from a local small store. They provide an excellent service, and if something goes wrong, they fix problems quickly and without needless paperwork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted April 11, 2011 You really should get that laptop, Olham. Good luck with your rig upgrades. I buy most of my computer stuff from a local small store. They provide an excellent service, and if something goes wrong, they fix problems quickly and without needless paperwork. hear hear...damn PC megastores!!...idiots who know nothing, and have only commission on their mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 11, 2011 Well, I'm still here - we had to postpone it for tomorrow. So I tried OFF on the rig for the first time - wooooooooowwww!!!! What a difference! All went absolutely fluid, and I had a totally new view on the world and on enemy craft. Much clearer and easier to follow (althoug I kept the graphic card!). It was a great pleasure to fly even in dense combat over Douai, May 1917. There was a lot of action, but I had real overview, which I did not gain before, due to microstutters here and there. The CPU was not overclocked yet; it ran on 3,3 GHz, and it was all fine! Now we only need to sort out the memory / mobo problem, and the world of OFF will be mine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javito1986 14 Posted April 11, 2011 Screenshots or it didn't happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 11, 2011 Yes, screenshots showing the inner and the outside of the "beast". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted April 11, 2011 yes..and thats where it all started to go wrong! I don't blame people for doing that. They are going for the cheap. I don't totally blame even the retailers at the point it's their business. But I'm worried, because the little business is slowly dying. The problem with these retailers is they don't distribute the money regionally, like the small business do. They invest the money in some financial operations, and only a small amount locally. So the local economy is getting affected. Everytime they open a new mega shopping center in a zone, who suffers more is the small business. Ending up in closing. They say that compensate this by getting new jobs. But the problem is that they underpay their employers and in the end, it doesn't benefit the local economy. Less money, less commerce. And sooner or later, this will explode in their faces. But it's ok for them, part of their money is in a fiscal paradise. Yes I'm worried and pissed. After all these retailers work as banks, not to lend money to people (like any regular bank do) but for finance their own financial operations (and sometimes dubious) . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 11, 2011 Javito, smoother, clearer operation of a graphic card cannot be shown with screenshots. They looked good before - they look good now. But the smoothness, stability and non-stuttering can't be shown. I completely share your worst fears about the financial systems, von Paulus. I cannot go on for much longer. IKEA for example pump millions and millions out of each country, and to the Caiman Islands. It's like "money locusts", eating it all, leaving financial deserts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
