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+Dave    2,322

Dave
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Does anyone know why I can not make a other ships show along with my carrier in the mission editor? I set up a whole carrier battle group and only the carrier shows. Any ideas? :dntknw:

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+JimBeamer5    23

JimBeamer5
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Should work fine. Just did a quick group after a couple of minutes. As Crazyhorse says, check the START BEFORE. I always set it to the maximum 59 minutes. The other ships won't show if the mission objective TOT is longer than the time listed in START BEFORE IIRC. You probably know all this already, if so I've got no idea why they won't show. Maybe post your mission data file? BTW my shot made under NOV 11 patch using most Current Iceland full scale terrain.

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+Dave    2,322

Dave
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That did the trick. Thank you fellas.

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Dave
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Ok how come I can not get them to go the same way as the carrier? I set them all at the same speed and same direction but when I start they are heading parallel to the carrier. :dntknw:

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Here is what my test mission looks like

 

[MissionHeader]

AircraftType=F-14A_82

MissionMap=ICELAND02

MissionType=SWEEP

StartTime=12:22:38

StartDate=01/27/1986

NavalMission=TRUE

 

[MissionData]

FriendlyAirActivity=2

EnemyAirActivity=1

FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=2

EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2

PlayerMissionID=2

PlayerPositionID=1

MissionNumber=1159

GeneratedMission=FALSE

AdjustStartPosition=TRUE

AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE

CreateStaticAircraft=TRUE

CreateHelpFlight=FALSE

 

[Weather]

WeatherType=BROKEN

WeatherAlt=4572.000000

WeatherThickness=91.440002

HasHighLayer=FALSE

FogAmount=0.000000

ContrailAlt=9753.600586

StartWindDirection=345.000031

StartWindSpeed=2.572220

WindGustingAmount=2.057776

 

[AircraftMission001]

Name=A002

AircraftType=Mig-29A

Size=3

Alignment=ENEMY

RandomChance=100

MissionType=CAP

TargetArea=Höfn

ObjectiveID=2

RatingForSuccess=50

StartOnGround=TRUE

CarrierBased=FALSE

Position=1126200.000000,846500.000000,0.000000

Heading=208.741150

Speed=275.748108

StartTime=1398.031128

BaseArea=BGJ BORGARFJORDUR EYSTRI

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=1126507.818115,847345.723328,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=181.259995

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=1122594.372660,855738.133157,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=181.259995

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=1098043.533823,737386.396449,3500.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=275.748108

Waypoint[04].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[04].Position=1047840.983200,662766.774134,3500.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=275.748108

Waypoint[05].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[05].Position=1021172.000000,654989.000000,3500.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=275.748108

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=1013394.220070,681657.981544,3500.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=275.748108

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=1049328.464521,764102.600239,3500.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=275.748108

Waypoint[08].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[08].Position=1115390.863396,820928.657911,1524.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=120.005997

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[09].Position=1123032.893374,837798.446372,762.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=80.540024

Waypoint[10].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[10].Position=1125892.181885,845654.276672,0.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=50.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=66.669998

Nation=Soviet

FormationType=SovietFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Loadout=AirToAir

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=119

Squadron=

Aircraft[01].AircraftNumber=0

Aircraft[02].AircraftNumber=1

Aircraft[03].AircraftNumber=2

 

[AircraftMission002]

Name=TAMPA

AircraftType=F-14A_82

Size=2

Alignment=FRIENDLY

RandomChance=100

MissionType=SWEEP

TargetArea=Vatnajökull FARP

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

CarrierBased=TRUE

Position=524963.380232,440368.653456,0.000000

Heading=56.489491

Speed=236.483948

StartTime=0.000000

BaseArea=

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=525063.380232,440368.653452,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=244.800003

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=534024.431298,442702.568677,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=244.800003

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=800573.383795,541901.916376,3000.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=236.483948

Waypoint[04].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[04].Position=980466.552559,670776.675751,3000.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=236.483948

Waypoint[05].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[05].Position=986000.000000,698000.000000,3000.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=236.483948

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=958776.675751,703533.447027,3000.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=236.483948

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=769899.268963,588226.987654,3000.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=236.483948

Waypoint[08].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[08].Position=511035.548124,458290.755698,1524.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=97.236000

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[09].Position=515703.380232,440368.653566,762.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=72.862740

Waypoint[10].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[10].Position=524913.380232,440368.653458,0.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=25.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=54.020000

Nation=USN

FormationType=USFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Loadout=AirToAirLongRange2

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=VF101AD85

Squadron=

Aircraft[01].AircraftNumber=24

Aircraft[02].AircraftNumber=93

 

[GroundMission001]

Name=USS AMERICA

GroundObjectType=CVA-66

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

Position=524963.380232,440368.653456,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=18.000000

StartTime=2198.792969

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=573486.329573,440277.100721,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=11.832211

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=641967.775058,441284.180802,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=11.832211

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=719970.704943,440917.969863,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].GotoWaypoint=1

Waypoint[03].Speed=11.832211

Texture=CVA-66

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission002]

Name=G002

GroundObjectType=OHPerryH

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=524185.181988,441604.615373,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=564697.267051,441650.391740,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=582366.944830,441879.273576,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=601455.689995,442108.155413,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=613769.532800,441650.391740,0.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=8.231104

Texture=

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission003]

Name=G003

GroundObjectType=CG-53

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=523361.207376,442428.589984,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=535400.391976,444305.421044,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=11.832211

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=552978.517021,445312.501124,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=11.832211

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=574951.173327,425537.110449,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=11.832211

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=612304.689046,446777.344878,0.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=11.832211

Texture=CG53

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission004]

Name=G004

GroundObjectType=CGN-25

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=524322.511090,439041.138804,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=558975.221138,437301.636847,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=576782.228018,437255.860479,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=624023.439076,435058.594849,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Texture=CGN25

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission005]

Name=G005

GroundObjectType=LHA

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=521347.047215,439636.231579,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=559341.432076,437850.953254,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=584930.421398,436798.096805,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=617431.642184,436889.649540,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Texture=USMCGrey

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission006]

Name=G006

GroundObjectType=Oiler

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

Position=520431.519869,440368.653455,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=4.115552

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=561767.579544,441879.273577,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=4.115552

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=594635.011267,444946.290186,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=4.115552

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=619445.802345,447692.872224,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=4.115552

Texture=

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission007]

Name=G007

GroundObjectType=Iowa80s

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=522262.574561,440322.877088,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=538513.184953,440551.758925,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=562500.001420,441650.391740,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=612625.123617,443023.682759,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Texture=BB-63

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission008]

Name=G008

GroundObjectType=CG-48

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=523590.089213,438171.387825,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=552429.200614,436431.885867,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=573120.118634,435333.253052,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=619995.118753,434600.831175,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Texture=CG48

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission009]

Name=G009

GroundObjectType=OHPerryH

Nation=USAF

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

NetworkAirDefense=TRUE

Position=521392.823582,441329.957169,0.000000

Heading=90.000000

Speed=8.231104

StartTime=-1191.207275

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=540435.792380,441558.839006,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=562500.001420,441009.522598,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=8.231104

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=595458.985879,441650.391740,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=8.231104

Texture=

ShipNumber=0

 

[Callsign]

GroundCallsignID=3

FACCallsignID=1

TACCCallsignID=1

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+PureBlue    71

PureBlue
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Dave it's because the Carrier turns into the wind at mission start.

For example set all the ships sailing 90deg. East. And set the Wind Direction E (yes it's backword in SF)

 

What I do is first make a rough design in ME, Save.

Open the file in Notepad and edit in the ships, their starting locations and waypoints.

Then go back to ME, insert the flights & their waypoints / targets. Save.

Go back to Notepad one last time to set all ships Startime=0 (and also other flights if you want them to take off from a adjacent carrier)

 

Then this becomes a template for multiple different mission designs involving carrier groups..

 

Some examples, note they include various mods. One can edit out unwanted stuff.

Missions.rar

 

Tip: I think the Carriers' speeds will be inserted automatically by ME from the objects data.ini. I edit these to get all ships going at similar pace.

[MovementSystem]

MaxRoadSpeed=15

MaxOffRoadSpeed=15

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+PureBlue    71

PureBlue
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Dave, set StartWindDirection=90.

And for a better ship formation enter the coordinates by hand :grin:

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Dave
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Thank you sir.

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Dave
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That did the trick. Thank you all.

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