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I saw "Prometheus" yesterday in IMAX 3D. Excellent movie in general and if you can see it on the huge screen, by all means do so.

 

Anyway, to get this thing back on topic more or less, I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say that one of the main characters (in 2094 or whenever this happens) is sporting an RFC tunic that Lou would be proud to own ;).

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"Prometheus": a very stylish looking film, but a confused mess of a story. And...a complete waste of Noomi Rapace.

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I have only seen the trailer so far - that looked very promising, at least for the pictures.

 

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I have only seen the trailer so far - that looked very promising, at least for the pictures.

I agree; the trailers were great. But the studio told us (in advance notices) that this was not going to be "Aliens 5". It would (1) take the Aliens franchise is a completely different direction, while (2) tying up some loose ends as to what we saw in the other four films. In my opinion, the "completely different direction" simply was not all that compelling, and the "loose ends", whatever they might be, were lost as they introduced new creatures, similar to, but still quite different from what we met in the first "Alien". Are these the forerunners of the 'facehugger'? Who knows? And we may never have these questions answered because the next film (and the ending fairly cries out for a sequel) will not be happening on LV-426.

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So, in short: you didn't like it?

I really wanted to, especially to see what Noomi Rapace would do in her first post-Dragon Tattoo role. The character they gave her didn't have much depth, just action-film heroics. On the whole, I was disappointed, but will see the sequel when it arrives. ('think I'll check the Pub and see what's going there.)

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She recently played a gypsy in the 2. Guy-Ritchy-Sherlock Holmes.

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She recently played a gypsy in the 2. Guy-Ritchy-Sherlock Holmes.

Indeed? I must check it out.

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I really wanted to, especially to see what Noomi Rapace would do in her first post-Dragon Tattoo role. The character they gave her didn't have much depth, just action-film heroics. On the whole, I was disappointed, but will see the sequel when it arrives. ('think I'll check the Pub and see what's going there.)

 

I dunno. I mean, in the entire "Dragon Tattoo" trilogy, Rapace had maybe 5 articulate spoken lines (which, being in Swedish, I had to read subtitles for), and never more than a single sentence at a time, stripped down to its bare minimum of subject-verb or verb-object. She did by far the most of her "talking" via texting (including tattooing words on people). The vast bulk of her vocalizations were grunts while having sex with quite a few different men and women. And she's tragically flat-chested so that wasn't much fun to watch anyway. So to be honest, I was very surprised to discover in "Prometheus" that she actually has a voice and can do something other than get naked or type at a keyboard.

 

As to the movie itself, IMHO it was exactly what it promised to be. Visually spectacular, tying up several HUGE loose ends from the "Alien" series, and going off in a different direction. It all made sense to me, but then I'd walked to the theater (as is my habit and custom) after a large and delicious lunch, washed down with several strong ales, at the adjacent brewpub. Such a repast makes all annoyances in the world go away, so I'm able to take movies as they come without any of the preconceptions I might have had before lunch. It's just sit back, watch, and enjoy (or not) what I see in total isolation from everything else in the world. I greatly enjoyed this movie and plan on buying it on disc (especially because Rapace doesn't get naked yet again {shudder}).

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Hmmm - ... I have read the trilogy, and Noomi Rapace played Lisbeth Salander very well.

Only the look, the physics I had expected more child-like - Rapace is definitely physically stronger.

She played Lisbeth very well, like she was described in the books.

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(1)Rapace had maybe 5 articulate spoken lines

 

(2)And she's tragically flat-chested...

 

(3)Visually spectacular, tying up several HUGE loose ends from the "Alien" series,

 

(4)Such a repast makes all annoyances in the world go away....

(1) Well, hardly her fault. One cannot say that Lisbeth Salander was an outgoing, or chatty, person. An actor has to deal with the script she's given.

 

(2) Hmmm. I'd say "beautifully flat-chested", but then I get passionate about little, firn, apple bosoms. (Somebody has to do it.)

 

(3) What "loose ends" were there in the first 'Alien", and how were they resolved in "Prometheus"? This 'loose ends' business went right over my head.

 

(4) I think I may adopt your pre-movie method. It will save me much chagrin. The problem with movies ( as one gets older) is that you begin to see plot-lines re-cycled over and over. Things happen that defy Newtonian physics because a scriptwriter says so. And...so much of the 'summer blockbuster' fare is pitched to the 14-23 yr. old crowd who don't know any better. Case in point: Shaw/Rapace's boyfriend apparently got impreganted (implanted?) with an alien foetus (?) fertile egg(?) and passes it to her sexually. Not bloody likely. That requires a profound ignorance of basic biology.

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I'm with you on point 2, Hauksbee - better firm and beautifully formed than large and...

ah, let's better stop this macho talk, before the moderators feel, they must.

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(1) Well, hardly her fault. One cannot say that Lisbeth Salander was an outgoing, or chatty, person. An actor has to deal with the script she's given.

 

True, but I'm unfamiliar with any other work of hers. The whole "Dragon Tattoo" trilogy wasn't the sort of thing to make somebody a star because the title role was minimally challenging from an acting POV. The real "star" is the journalist, in terms of actually doing acting. Salander is more of a puller of strings from behind the scenes, although with countless sex scenes, more porn than actual acting, and without the looks for that job.

 

(2) Hmmm. I'd say "beautifully flat-chested", but then I get passionate about little, firn, apple bosoms. (Somebody has to do it.)

 

I do, too, but Rapace has instead the chest of an 80-year old. I'm reminded of a single, wrinkled pancake topped with an olive.

 

(3) What "loose ends" were there in the first 'Alien", and how were they resolved in "Prometheus"? This 'loose ends' business went right over my head.

 

Well, to start with, you might recall in the original "Alien" movie they found the Xenomorph eggs in the hold of the "Space Jockey's" ship. The Xenomorphs are animals, not very bright at all, certainly incapable builing interstellar spacecraft. Yet all subsequent movies have followed them and totally blown off the advanced "Space Jockeys". In fact, they were so ignored that even their name "Space Jockey" was simply an in-house description of the set of the ship's bridge--they never had an official name in the movies. But "Prometheus" is about the "Space Jockeys", now called "Engineers". And "Prometheus" answers the questions of what the "Space Jockeys" were doing with a hold full of Xenomorph eggs anyway, and why the "Space Jockey" looked like he'd grown out of his chair, and quite a few other things.

 

(4) I think I may adopt your pre-movie method. It will save me much chagrin. The problem with movies ( as one gets older) is that you begin to see plot-lines re-cycled over and over. Things happen that defy Newtonian physics because a scriptwriter says so. And...so much of the 'summer blockbuster' fare is pitched to the 14-23 yr. old crowd who don't know any better. Case in point: Shaw/Rapace's boyfriend apparently got impreganted (implanted?) with an alien foetus (?) fertile egg(?) and passes it to her sexually. Not bloody likely. That requires a profound ignorance of basic biology.

 

You have to violate (as in maliciously rape) both Newton and Einstein to have interstellar travel in timespans measured somewhere this side of Doomsday. If you don't believe we'll ever figure out how to do that, then the only science fiction that will meet your tastes is confined to very small-scale expeditions taking years to cross just this solar system. Things like "2001" and "2010". Anything involving actual colonies on the Moon, Mars, or (Gods forbid) even further away is pure hogwash until we learn how to beat Earth's gravity with something larger than a minivan.

 

As to your point about the biology involved, that's a serious spoiler so I'm afraid I can't answer it now.

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