help somebody?

[pons 0]

Hi, I have 2 problems:

First, it takes a long time for the game to load after clicking "fly"

It goes from 0 to 60% quite fast, but it hangs there for almost a

minute. From 60 to 90% it takes about 25 seconds, and to 100%

about 10 seconds. Is it a bug that will be addressed on the patch,

or is there a change to be made somewhere?

 

Second, mapping the views to the POV hat makes the "cockpit"

move to. That is that when I pull on the stick, the aiming reticle

moves to the top of the 'pit. Is there a way to fix this through the

INI file? How can it be done?

 

Thank you all

sebastian pons

[BirdDogg 0]

I believe the load times are going to be address with the patch (I hope). but yes, it happens to me also, just like you stated.

 

As far as the key mapping goes, wait a little bit and FastEagle, Ranger or one of the other members from the board here will more than likely address that one for ya real soon.

 

I know, I know, not much in the way of help, but the patch will be out next tuesday th 21st

 

BirdDogg.

[pons 0]

Thank you BirdDogg, I guess I'll have to wait then...

 

sebastian pons

[*Fast Eagle* 0]

First, it takes a long time for the game to load after clicking "fly"It goes from 0 to 60% quite fast, but it hangs there for almost a minute. From 60 to 90% it takes about 25 seconds, and to 100%

about 10 seconds. Is it a bug that will be addressed on the patch,

or is there a change to be made somewhere?

 

As for the loading time, this will be addressed in the patch, but I'm sure has to do with system speed as well. I go to 60% in a second then wait for 5 seconds to get to 80%, then another 5 till I'm in the game

 

mapping the views to the POV hat makes the "cockpit"

move to. That is that when I pull on the stick, the aiming reticle

moves to the top of the 'pit. Is there a way to fix this through the

INI file? How can it be done?

 

This works good for me. I have absolutely no problems with POV

You can find this file in C:Program FilesStrategy FirstStrike FightersControls

 

[ControlSet001]

EXIT_FLIGHT=ESCAPE

QUIT_GAME=ALT+Q

PAUSE_FLIGHT=ALT+P

TIME_COMPRESSION=ALT+T

NORMAL_TIME=ALT+R

CHANGE_TIME=ALT+C

SKIP_TO_NEXT=ALT+N

RADIO_COMM=TAB

CHAT_ALL=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON07

CHAT_ENEMY=SHIFT+GRAVE

CHAT_FRIENDLY=CTRL+GRAVE

CHAT_TARGET=ALT+GRAVE

AUTO_PILOT=A

WING_LEVELER=SHIFT+A

NEXT_WAYPOINT=W

PREV_WAYPOINT=SHIFT+W

MAP=M

SCREEN_SHOT=PRINTSCREEN

GOTO_COCKPIT_FRONT_VIEW=F1

GOTO_COCKPIT_LEFT_VIEW=F2

GOTO_COCKPIT_RIGHT_VIEW=F3

GOTO_COCKPIT_UP_VIEW=SHIFT+F1

GOTO_VIEW_PADLOCK=F4

TOGGLE_COCKPIT=NUMPADPERIOD

SNAP_VIEW_FRONT=NUMPAD8

SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_RIGHT=NUMPAD9

SNAP_VIEW_RIGHT=NUMPAD6

SNAP_VIEW_REAR_RIGHT=NUMPAD3

SNAP_VIEW_REAR_LEFT=NUMPAD1

SNAP_VIEW_LEFT=NUMPAD4

SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_LEFT=NUMPAD7

SNAP_VIEW_UP=NUMPAD5

SNAP_VIEW_DOWN=NUMPAD0

GOTO_VIEW_SHOULDER=F5

GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_NEXT=F6

GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_PREV=SHIFT+F6

GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_NEXT=F7

GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_PREV=SHIFT+F7

GOTO_VIEW_TARGET=F8

GOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_TARGET=SHIFT+F8

GOTO_VIEW_TARGET_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+F8

GOTO_VIEW_WEAPON=F9

GOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_WEAPON=SHIFT+F9

GOTO_VIEW_WEAPON_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+F9

GOTO_VIEW_FLYBY=F10

GOTO_VIEW_TOWER=F11

GOTO_VIEW_ACTION_CAM=F12

GOTO_FREE_VIEW=CTRL+F12

CAMERA_PITCH_UP=ALT+UPARROW

CAMERA_PITCH_DOWN=ALT+DOWNARROW

CAMERA_YAW_RIGHT=ALT+RIGHTARROW

CAMERA_YAW_LEFT=ALT+LEFTARROW

CAMERA_ZOOM_IN=MOUSE_BUTTON01

CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT=MOUSE_BUTTON02

CAMERA_PITCH_AXIS=JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP

CAMERA_YAW_AXIS=JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT

CAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROL=MOUSE_Z-AXIS

PITCH_UP=DOWNARROW

PITCH_DOWN=UPARROW

ROLL_RIGHT=RIGHTARROW

ROLL_LEFT=LEFTARROW

YAW_RIGHT=

YAW_LEFT=COMMA

THROTTLE_UP=EQUALS

THROTTLE_DOWN=MINUS

FLAPS_DOWN=F

FLAPS_UP=V

AIRBRAKES_TOGGLE=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON06

WHEELBRAKES_TOGGLE=B

LANDING_GEARS_TOGGLE=G

ARRESTER_HOOK_TOGGLE=H

CYCLE_NAV_LIGHT=CTRL+L

DRAG_CHUTE=

EJECT=GRAVE

PITCH_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Y-AXIS

YAW_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Z-ROTATION

ROLL_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_X-AXIS

THROTTLE_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_U-AXIS

NEXT_AA_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON03

PREV_AA_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON04

NEXT_AG_WEAPONS=RSHIFT

PREV_AG_WEAPONS=SHIFT+BACKSLASH

FIRE_PRIMARY_GUN=SPACE

FIRE_SECONDARY_GUN=PERIOD

FIRE_WEAPON=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON02

FIRE_SECONDARY_WEAPON=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON02

OPEN_BOMBBAY_DOOR=CTRL+O

DROP_TANKS=CTRL+D

JETTISON_STORES=CTRL+J

NEXT_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=RBRACKET

PREV_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=SHIFT+RBRACKET

NEXT_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=LBRACKET

PREV_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=SHIFT+LBRACKET

NEXT_HUD_MODE=APOSTROPHE

PREV_HUD_MODE=SHIFT+APOSTROPHE

NEXT_GUNGROUP=SEMICOLON

PREV_GUNGROUP=SHIFT+SEMICOLON

CHAFF=

FLARE=X

ECM_TOGGLE=Z

TOGGLE_RADAR=CTRL+PGUP

NEXT_RADAR_MODE=PGUP

PREV_RADAR_MODE=SHIFT+PGUP

NEXT_RADAR_RANGE=PGDN

PREV_RADAR_RANGE=SHIFT+PGDN

SELECT_NEXT_RADAR_TARGET=HOME

SELECT_PREV_RADAR_TARGET=SHIFT+HOME

ACQUIRE_RADAR_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON05

ACQUIRE_VISUAL_TARGET_ON_RADAR=SHIFT+INSERT

REJECT_RADAR_TARGET=CTRL+DELETE

SELECT_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON08

SELECT_PREV_TARGET=SHIFT+T

SELECT_CLOSEST_TARGET=CTRL+T

SELECT_FRIENDLY=Y

SELECT_PREV_FRIENDLY=SHIFT+Y

SELECT_CLOSEST_FRIENDLY=CTRL+Y

SELECT_GROUND=E

SELECT_PREV_GROUND=SHIFT+E

SELECT_CLOSEST_GROUND=CTRL+E

SELECT_LAST_RADIO=R

SELECT_LAST_RADIO_CALLER=SHIFT+R

SELECT_RADAR_TARGET=CTRL+R

SELECT_WAYPOINT=CTRL+W

DESELECT_TARGET=

 

[ControlSet002]

CAMERA_ZOOM_IN=NUMPADPLUS

CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT=NUMPADMINUS

FIRE_PRIMARY_GUN=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON01

 

[RangedControl001]

AxisControl=PITCH_CONTROL

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=TRUE

MouseScale=1.000000

UseMouseRate=FALSE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=TRUE

SelfCenterRate=2.000000

KeyControlRate=1.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=PITCH_DOWN

DecreaseControl=PITCH_UP

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl002]

AxisControl=YAW_CONTROL

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=FALSE

MouseScale=1.000000

UseMouseRate=FALSE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=TRUE

SelfCenterRate=2.000000

KeyControlRate=1.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=YAW_RIGHT

DecreaseControl=YAW_LEFT

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl003]

AxisControl=ROLL_CONTROL

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=FALSE

MouseScale=1.000000

UseMouseRate=FALSE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=TRUE

SelfCenterRate=2.000000

KeyControlRate=1.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=ROLL_RIGHT

DecreaseControl=ROLL_LEFT

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl004]

AxisControl=THROTTLE_CONTROL

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=0.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=TRUE

MouseScale=1.000000

UseMouseRate=FALSE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=TRUE

SelfCenterRate=0.000000

KeyControlRate=1.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=THROTTLE_UP

DecreaseControl=THROTTLE_DOWN

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl005]

AxisControl=CAMERA_PITCH_AXIS

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=FALSE

MouseScale=0.200000

UseMouseRate=TRUE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=FALSE

SelfCenterRate=50.000000

KeyControlRate=10.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_DOWN

DecreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_UP

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl006]

AxisControl=CAMERA_YAW_AXIS

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=FALSE

MouseScale=0.250000

UseMouseRate=TRUE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=FALSE

SelfCenterRate=50.000000

KeyControlRate=10.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_RIGHT

DecreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_LEFT

CenterControl=

 

[RangedControl007]

AxisControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROL

MaxValue=1000.000000

MinValue=-1000.000000

DeadZone=11.000000

Saturation=88.000000

ReverseJoystick=FALSE

MouseScale=1.000000

UseMouseRate=FALSE

ReverseMouse=FALSE

LimitValue=FALSE

SelfCenterRate=100.000000

KeyControlRate=10.000000

AllowKeyControl=TRUE

IncreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_IN

DecreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT

CenterControl=

 

Sorry thats so long

 

You might also want to recalibrate your joystick, I had to do this a few times before it worked real good!!

 

If this dosen't help, I'm sure MJ or Ranger will have the answer you need

[pons 0]

Thank you.

Now what am I suposed to do with the file? Shall I copy and paste

to the C:Program FilesStrategy FirstStrike FightersControls

folder to overwrite a similar one there?

 

sebastian pons

[*Fast Eagle* 0]

You can do this but make sure to back the original file up!!!!

 

What joystick are you using??

[*Fast Eagle* 0]

you can also print it out and type in the lines you need to use for the views

as some of the entries are set up for a MS joystick

[pons 0]

Hi, I use a Logitech WingMan Digital 3D.

 

What lines would you think are relevant?

 

I'll have to sign off now, will check again tomorrow (my time :D )

 

sebastian pons

[Guest Ranger332]

what your system setuo your ox ram and the like

[pons 0]

Hello Ranger332, here are my specs:

 

 

Win98se AMD K6 (PII) MX 3D NOW 500MHz

 

128 RAM GeForce 2 MX 100/200 32MB

 

Trident sound card IE5.5 DirectX 8.1

 

 

I know it's on the border, but when playing it doesn't jump too much. Of course there is not telling what will happen postpatch with the rockets

contails and such...

 

sebastian pons

[Guest Ranger332]

0k reduce your resalution setting to minimal

800x600

or 640x480 (what ever the lowest your monator/vid card will go and try it then may not be as nice but should speed things up a bit

[pons 0]

Ranger332, the problem is the loading time from clicking "fly" to actually starting playing, I'm talking about the bar that measures the percentage of game loaded.

I already reduced to 800/600, off mirrors and shadows, etc...

 

Thank you for your post

sebastian pons

[Guest Ranger332]

try 640x480

 

and reduce the tasking of your vid card

anti-lasing off

and the like the loadup can be effected by how much your "asking" the pc to do the higher the rez the more asked of the vid and the slower the processor the longer the loadup

[pons 0]

Thank you Ranger332, I wasn't aware of the conexion.

 

Any advice on my first question?

 

sebastian pons

[Guest Ranger332]

WELL i HAVE A

1.6GIG

512 DDR RAM

GEFORCE 4 440

and the first week or so it seened to take a long time to load ,which got shorter as I used the game more.

 

before Id do anything more ID wait for the patch that will be released 21 Jan 03 and go from there

after that any more probs my E mail is BSF332@netscape.net

and dont forget to contact the support serveces of the game to,and as always there are meny here that will help if the can or alest try

[*Fast Eagle* 0]

I was having the same loadup issue at 640x480x32

now I run at 1024x768x16 now noone is jumpy in the game and load up time is considerably less

[*Fast Eagle* 0]

what I did forget to mention was that I disabled the joysticks profile and just used the in game setup for controls

[Guest Ranger332]

1024x768x32

 

my loadup is now bout 15secs

[pons 0]

And now I'm lost.

Are you talking about ingame resolutions or desktop resolution.

Because as I understand it, the less the ingame resolution the less jumpy the display will be, or I'm missing something here?

 

sebastian pons

[pons 0]

Anybody?

 

sebastian pons

[Target 0]

I run my game at 1024x768, and depending on how big the mission is (how many objects must be loaded up) it can take my machine about as long as it takes yours. What I'm saying is that at this resolution I don't think your suffering any sort of abnormality, I think its just the game. I find the wait worth it for the higher resolution. Of course I haven't tried it at any other resolution.

As for views, my stick is set up so that my hat operates the camera. Actually this is accomplished much the same way as Fast Eagle described, through the file system. I find it pans nice, smooth and quick. This is my preferrence, outside of Trackir. If you're interested I'll post a copy of the file commands to set your game up this way. Bear in mind I would copy and paste the original cfg file somewhere and rename it. I didn't rename mine once and the game found it in my documents desktop folder and defaulted to it. Smart little bugger.

[pons 0]

Yes Target, I'd be grateful if you could help me, but you'll have to

explain it step by step...

 

Thank you in advance

sebastian pons

[Target 0]

OK Pons, I'll give you ALL the steps, since I don't know how much or little you know. Don't take it the wrong way if I sound like I don't think you know anything, because I don't know what you do or do not know. Nothing for granted, and no offense meant. You probably know way more than I do.

That said, we begin. I find the best way to get into my file system is through windows explorer. Its under program/accessories, and I use it so much I have a shortcut to it on my desktop. The path I take is C:programsStrategy firstStrikefighters. This is the default path as the game sets it up. Once into the Strike Fighters folder you want to go into the control folder. Within the Control folder you'll find the game's "Default Configuration Settings" file. You want to backup this folder. Easiest way to do this is to highlight the config folder, copy it, and paste it somewhere where you can find it (like in your My Documents folder on your desktop). Rename the config folder you just copied. I think I renamed mine "original" or something to that effect.

Now go back into the game control folder where your original config folder is and open it up (the Default Configuration Settings folder). Scroll down the list until you come to the Camera control commands. There are 8 lines starting with "camera_pitch_up" and ending with "camera_yaw_axis". Highlight that section and cut it out. Then replace it with these commands which I have copied right out of my setup.

 

CAMERA_PITCH_UP=JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP

CAMERA_PITCH_DOWN=JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWN

CAMERA_YAW_RIGHT=JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT

CAMERA_YAW_LEFT=JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFT

CAMERA_ZOOM_IN=NUMPADPLUS

CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT=MOUSE_BUTTON02

CAMERA_PITCH_AXIS=JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP

CAMERA_YAW_AXIS=JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT

 

I'm not sure, but I think you may be able to copy right off this board just as they appear and paste them directly into the config folder. At any rate, the order must be maintained, in the same spot as the commands just cut out, and with ALL the t's crossed and i's dotted. Just as you see it.

If it doesn't work, go back to your original config folder and drag it back to its original place. You might have to replace the original name , "Default Configuration Settings".

 

My stick is a TM Topgun Afterburner and I find these settings do me well. I don't know if they will work with every stick, but the hat pan is the best I've come across.

If you have any further question before you start, feel free to ask. I took it for granted (though I said I wouldn't) you do know how to cut and paste, if not, I'll let you in on the secret. I didn't always know how to do it either. :D Let me know how you made out.

These commands came to me via a good soul at simhq, yes there are a few over there, and in no way reflect any talent, cleverness or intelligence on my part. I was a hatch recruit but never a scientist.

[pons 0]

Thank you Target for your help. I don't take offense easily, and less when I'm asking for help. I always assume that the other part (the helper) knows more than I do, otherwise I'd be the one telling you what to do and how....

Anyway, I printed your instructions and I'll try it tomorrow. It's late night here and unfortunately I have to work in the morning :(

 

I'll post results as soon as I have flown a couple of times.

Thank you again

sebastian pons

[pons 0]

Hello Target, couldn't fly because of CDT several times. I'm sure is windows related rather than modifications made, but I've decided to wait for the patch (1 day!)

Thank you for your help

sebastian pons