Tomcat Superpack Makers. . . anyone, Spectre?

[Spiff 2]

Hello All,

I am trying to use Flaviodutra's old weapon rails on the newer cats; like Spectre did with the old hotfix for the D model TCS. The wep rails will show but can't hide the model's original rails and I'm not sure how Spectre did it anyway, IDing the correct model nodes? Not sure the old ones will work anyway, back pallets appear to be too far apart for the MF model, but was trying it for a purely intercepter loadout (4 phoenix all the time,no belly sparrows). Is this possible?

 

Please ignore the itallics.

Spiff

Edited February 7, 2013 by Wrench
removed italics how odd!!

[+SupGen 79]

Why do you want to use the old rails? You can have a four Phoenix pallet loadout as the plane now stands.

[Spiff 2]

I like the old ones; MF ones look too bulky to me.

[+SupGen 79]

Ah, a glutton for punishment!

[Spiff 2]

Ah, actually no. I think I misspoke, after reviewing some pics, the front rails are not bad, just missing some angles, the tcs is the one that looks too bulky to me compared to the fake pilot model, but in terms of accuracy they both have their good and bad. You guys should include that tcs hotfix for the D model though in the superpack, only problem of course is changing skins.

 

Spiff

[Spiff 2]

Thanks for the reply SupGen, but that's not much of an answer. I still think the fake pilot TCS works well with the late Ds since most skins are lo-vis grey(yes, I like it for cosmetic reasons). If there is some unknown issue with including this in the Superpack I would suggest removing the pic(s)? of it on the version 1.20 download page.

 

Spiff

[Caesar 305]

Spiff,

 

While we were working on the package a year ago, Dave and I tried to get those rails working on the new model. If memory serves, we couldn't get them to work properly - they either were always on (i.e. you'd have Sparrows sticking through them) or they wouldn't quite match up with the new model without the other rails sticking through somewhere. In large regard, it's a matter of positioning them correctly on the model, and, like I said, we had problems with that, too. If you find a fix, I'd like to hear it, but I'm afraid I can't provide insight on how to get them applied properly since we never got them working right ourselves. Also, which image shows modified rails in the v1.20 Super Pack download? They all look like the basic ones to me.

 

Second, what's the issue with the TCS on the F-14D? I thought we had gotten all the TCS pods working on all models of the F-14, with the possible exception of the Avionics70 F-14D, so if one's broken, I'd like to know which.

Edited February 10, 2013 by Caesar

[+EricJ 4,254]

I think the issue is that the Phoenix rails are built into the model, and not a separate LOD like the other rails are. TMF would have to redo each model in order to fix the issue Spiff.

[Spiff 2]

Caesar, EricJ, you're going above and beyond. All I was trying to do was apply the hotfix Spectre did for the D tcs to the wep rails and I needed an explanation on data.ini entries and if this would work because you need to hide? or remove? (don't know what Spectre did exactly) the built in rails. If I liked the way it looked I was going to limit the loadout to 4 phoenix all the time so I wouldn't have the problem with the sparrows, again, purely for cosmetic reasons. I got the rails to show, but the front ones are completely engulfed by the originals and the aft ones you see because they're closer to the engine nacelles, maybe too close to get a phoenix on. As for TCS, as far as I know they work on the avionics side as intended, my comments were strictly external model. The pic(s)? on the download page are of the fake-pilot D model TCS (might only be one), which was part of Spectre's hotfix, not included in the superpack. Again, I like the D model TCS fake pilot because it looks sleeker than the Mirage Factory one and works for me on later models because I use grey skins.

 

Spiff