TeaAndScones 2 Posted March 17, 2013 Its widely accepted that that the AIM-4, AIM-26, and AIM-47 all belong to the same family of missiles. (Falcon.) However, could the AIM-54 Phoenix be considered a part of this family, as both the AIM-47 and AIM-54 were designed to shoot down bombers at long range, the overall profile of the missiles are relatively similar, and Hughes both played a part in their development. (Though Raytheon played the greater part of development for the Phoenix.) Any thoughts welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+streakeagle 871 Posted March 17, 2013 While the AIM-54 clearly shares the aerodynamic shape/layout of the Falcon family, it is in an entirely different size/weight class. No aircraft that was designed to carry Falcons could squeeze an AIM-54 in its place. But the F/A-18E/F is still considered a "Hornet" despite being almost an entirely new aircraft that retained the shape of a Hornet to bypass some budgetary red tape/development costs. So it is a personal opinion kind of thing. Certainly, any history of the Phoenix could/would/should mention the Falcon family it came from. Likewise, any history of the Falcon would be incomplete without mentioning its ultimate evolution into the Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SupGen 79 Posted March 18, 2013 The Phoenix is most definitely part of the Falcon family. It is a direct descendant of the AIM-47, originally developed as the GAR-9 for the Air Forces' Long Range Interceptor project, theF-108 Rapier. When the Rapier was cancelled, the AIM-47 continued development for use on the F-12A (the precursor to the SR-71), when this project was cancelled in turn the AIM-47 and its radar, the AN/ASG-18 were further developed into the AIM-54 Phoenix/AWG-9 Radar combination, first for the Navys' cancelled F-111B project, and finally for the F-14 Tomcat. As you can see, the Phoenix was well named, having survived several cancellations. Take a look at these pictures: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted March 18, 2013 I'll always wish the F-12 had been produced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+streakeagle 871 Posted March 20, 2013 I wish the B-70 and F-108 had been produced as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites