Can i steal a set up for Logitech Extreme 3D Pro?

[saisran 84]

While wandering around on a far away city i stumbled around a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It was on sale and it was the last one, so i bought it. It was nice and all. I can now sustain a turn and drag along with me because it can still fit in my luggage. (sadly i wasn't able to come across a cyborg fly).

 

Now for the dilemma, While flying around in the Sabers and the Saders is easy due to having all controls fit in the stick, I'm having a bit of a trouble operating the more modern Jets especially the love of my life, "TMF's F-14 Tomcats." Operating the cat requires the use of different radar settings, HUD, and Cockpit display mode, flaps, targeting and so on. All of which doesn't fit in the stick. So the solution is to re-map the eys on the keyboard and have a select "most important" function on the stick.

 

As i'm stupid and lazy, and quite busy working several position (and not getting any richer) i don't have time to thinker with the control set and would much rather be playing when i have time.

 

So for all you good gentlemen out there who has a Extrem 3D Pro working on the SF2 series and flies the tomcat. i would really love to steal your control setups.

 

Lots and lots of Thanks.

[csb 12]

That's the stick I've been using for 5 years or so! It feels great and can have many controls mapped to the buttons on the actual stick and the hat.

 

I have posted my controls ini below the overview of my setup. Let me know what you think and any changes you may recommend.

 

Logitech & Mouse overview:

 

I use a mouse in the left hand to look around, mouse wheel for zoom & airbrake, L/R buttons control thrust.

 

Most of the commonly used pilot/combat controls and view/target controls are on the actual stick. The trigger button is for cannons & the thumb button is for bombs/missiles/rockets.

 

The four topside buttons do weapon select, lock target, padlock view & rear view.

 

The hat switch changes cockpit view and selects air targets & ground targets - also allows to change views (target view, player to target view, target to player view).

 

I have tried to map actions in a fairly logical manner and divided the stick as left side is for air targets/weapons, right side is for ground targets/weapons. So similar functions are grouped on buttons using CTRL+ & SHFT+ . So each of the top buttons and the 4 directions on the hat switch can have 3 actions. With this setup I can keep my hands mostly on the stick & mouse while piloting, navigating and combat.

 

With this setup I use TAB to turn on radar and change radar mode. The Q/W, A/S, Z/X buttons are used in pairs to change radar distance, select radar target, lock/unlock radar target.

 

The buttons on the base are for gear up/down, flaps up/down. wheel brakes. There are 6 buttons on the base but I have only set the previous mentioned actions.

 

Radio commands are on keyboard and also third person views, eg next object, fly-by view, tower view, action view.

 

 

My controls ini - it has been named Logitech.

 

 

[DeviceName]
JOYSTICK01=Logitech Extreme 3D [1]

[ControlSet001]
EXIT_FLIGHT=SHIFT+ESCAPE
QUIT_GAME=CTRL+Q
PAUSE_FLIGHT=PAUSE
TIME_COMPRESSION=PGUP
NORMAL_TIME=PGDN
CHANGE_TIME=END
SKIP_TO_NEXT=INSERT
RADIO_COMM=GRAVE
CHAT_ALL=
CHAT_ENEMY=SHIFT+GRAVE
CHAT_FRIENDLY=CTRL+GRAVE
CHAT_TARGET=ALT+GRAVE
AUTO_PILOT=SHIFT+A
WING_LEVELER=SPACE
NEXT_WAYPOINT=HOME
PREV_WAYPOINT=SHIFT+W
MAP=M
SCREEN_SHOT=PRINTSCREEN
DEBUG_TOGGLE=I
GOTO_COCKPIT_FRONT_VIEW=
GOTO_COCKPIT_WIDE_VIEW=JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP
GOTO_COCKPIT_GUNSIGHT_VIEW=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP
GOTO_COCKPIT_UP_VIEW=SHIFT+F1
GOTO_VIEW_PADLOCK=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON04
TOGGLE_COCKPIT=NUMPADPERIOD
SNAP_VIEW_FRONT=NUMPAD8
SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_RIGHT=NUMPAD9
SNAP_VIEW_RIGHT=NUMPAD6
SNAP_VIEW_REAR_RIGHT=NUMPAD3
SNAP_VIEW_REAR_LEFT=NUMPAD1
SNAP_VIEW_LEFT=NUMPAD4
SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_LEFT=NUMPAD7
SNAP_VIEW_UP=NUMPAD5
SNAP_VIEW_DOWN=NUMPAD0
GOTO_VIEW_SHOULDER=F5
GOTO_CHECK_SIX_VIEW=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON03
GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_NEXT=F1
GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_PREV=F2
GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_NEXT=F7
GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_PREV=SHIFT+F7
GOTO_VIEW_TARGET=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWN
GOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWN
GOTO_VIEW_TARGET_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWN
GOTO_VIEW_WEAPON=F8
GOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_WEAPON=SHIFT+F9
GOTO_VIEW_WEAPON_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+F9
GOTO_VIEW_FLYBY=F3
GOTO_VIEW_FLYBY_PREV=F4
GOTO_VIEW_TOWER=F10
GOTO_VIEW_TOWER_PREV=F11
GOTO_VIEW_ACTION_CAM=F12
GOTO_FREE_VIEW=K
CAMERA_PITCH_UP=ALT+UPARROW
CAMERA_PITCH_DOWN=ALT+DOWNARROW
CAMERA_YAW_RIGHT=ALT+RIGHTARROW
CAMERA_YAW_LEFT=ALT+LEFTARROW
CAMERA_ZOOM_IN=UPARROW
CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT=DOWNARROW
CAMERA_PITCH_AXIS=MOUSE_Y-AXIS
CAMERA_YAW_AXIS=MOUSE_X-AXIS
CAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROL=MOUSE_Z-AXIS
PITCH_UP=
PITCH_DOWN=
ROLL_RIGHT=RIGHTARROW
ROLL_LEFT=LEFTARROW
YAW_RIGHT=PERIOD
YAW_LEFT=COMMA
THROTTLE_UP=MOUSE_BUTTON02
THROTTLE_DOWN=MOUSE_BUTTON01
THRUST_VECTOR_UP=CTRL+EQUALS
THRUST_VECTOR_DOWN=CTRL+MINUS
FLAPS_DOWN=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON11
FLAPS_UP=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON12
AIRBRAKES_TOGGLE=MOUSE_BUTTON03
WHEELBRAKES_TOGGLE=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON10
LANDING_GEARS_TOGGLE=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON09
ARRESTER_HOOK_TOGGLE=H
CYCLE_NAV_LIGHT=L
ENGINE_TOGGLE=E
DRAG_CHUTE=CTRL+B
EJECT=APPS
PITCH_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Y-AXIS
YAW_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Z-ROTATION
ROLL_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_X-AXIS
THROTTLE_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_U-AXIS
THRUST_VECTOR_CONTROL=
NEXT_AA_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON05
PREV_AA_WEAPONS=SHIFT+BACKSPACE
NEXT_AG_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON06
PREV_AG_WEAPONS=SHIFT+BACKSLASH
FIRE_PRIMARY_GUN=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON01
FIRE_SECONDARY_GUN=
FIRE_WEAPON=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON02
OPEN_BOMBBAY_DOOR=CTRL+O
DROP_TANKS=CTRL+F
JETTISON_STORES=CTRL+W
NEXT_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=RBRACKET
PREV_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=SHIFT+RBRACKET
NEXT_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=LBRACKET
PREV_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=SHIFT+LBRACKET
NEXT_HUD_MODE=APOSTROPHE
PREV_HUD_MODE=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_BUTTON03
NEXT_GUNGROUP=SEMICOLON
PREV_GUNGROUP=SHIFT+SEMICOLON
CHAFF=C
FLARE=B
ECM_TOGGLE=V
TOGGLE_RADAR=CTRL+PGUP
NEXT_RADAR_MODE=TAB
PREV_RADAR_MODE=SHIFT+PGUP
NEXT_RADAR_RANGE=W
PREV_RADAR_RANGE=Q
SELECT_NEXT_RADAR_TARGET=S
SELECT_PREV_RADAR_TARGET=A
ACQUIRE_RADAR_TARGET=X
ACQUIRE_VISUAL_TARGET_ON_RADAR=SHIFT+INSERT
REJECT_RADAR_TARGET=Z
SELECT_CLOSEST_CENTER=NUMPADSTAR
SELECT_TARGET=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFT
SELECT_PREV_TARGET=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFT
SELECT_CLOSEST_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFT
SELECT_FRIENDLY=Y
SELECT_PREV_FRIENDLY=SHIFT+Y
SELECT_CLOSEST_FRIENDLY=CTRL+Y
SELECT_GROUND=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT
SELECT_PREV_GROUND=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT
SELECT_CLOSEST_GROUND=JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHT
SELECT_LAST_RADIO=R
SELECT_LAST_RADIO_CALLER=SHIFT+R
SELECT_RADAR_TARGET=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_UP
SELECT_WAYPOINT=
DESELECT_TARGET=
ANIMATION_1=SHIFT+1
ANIMATION_2=SHIFT+2
ANIMATION_3=SHIFT+3
ANIMATION_4=SHIFT+4
ANIMATION_5=SHIFT+5
ANIMATION_6=SHIFT+6
ANIMATION_7=SHIFT+7
ANIMATION_8=SHIFT+8
ANIMATION_9=SHIFT+9
ANIMATION_10=SHIFT+0

[RangedControl001]
AxisControl=PITCH_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=10.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=TRUE
MouseScale=1.000000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=TRUE
SelfCenterRate=2.000000
KeyControlRate=1.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=PITCH_DOWN
DecreaseControl=PITCH_UP
CenterControl=

[RangedControl002]
AxisControl=YAW_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=10.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=FALSE
MouseScale=1.000000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=TRUE
SelfCenterRate=2.000000
KeyControlRate=1.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=YAW_RIGHT
DecreaseControl=YAW_LEFT
CenterControl=

[RangedControl003]
AxisControl=ROLL_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=10.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=FALSE
MouseScale=1.000000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=TRUE
SelfCenterRate=2.000000
KeyControlRate=1.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=ROLL_RIGHT
DecreaseControl=ROLL_LEFT
CenterControl=

[RangedControl004]
AxisControl=THROTTLE_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=0.000000
DeadZone=0.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=TRUE
MouseScale=0.600000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=TRUE
SelfCenterRate=0.000000
KeyControlRate=0.600000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=THROTTLE_UP
DecreaseControl=THROTTLE_DOWN
CenterControl=

[RangedControl005]
AxisControl=CAMERA_PITCH_AXIS
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=10.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=FALSE
MouseScale=0.200000
UseMouseRate=TRUE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=FALSE
SelfCenterRate=50.000000
KeyControlRate=2.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_DOWN
DecreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_UP
CenterControl=

[RangedControl006]
AxisControl=CAMERA_YAW_AXIS
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=10.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=FALSE
MouseScale=0.250000
UseMouseRate=TRUE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=FALSE
SelfCenterRate=50.000000
KeyControlRate=2.500000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_RIGHT
DecreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_LEFT
CenterControl=

[RangedControl007]
AxisControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=-1000.000000
DeadZone=0.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=FALSE
MouseScale=9.000000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=FALSE
SelfCenterRate=100.000000
KeyControlRate=8.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_IN
DecreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_OUT
CenterControl=

[RangedControl008]
AxisControl=THRUST_VECTOR_CONTROL
MaxValue=1000.000000
MinValue=0.000000
DeadZone=0.000000
Saturation=100.000000
ReverseJoystick=TRUE
MouseScale=1.000000
UseMouseRate=FALSE
ReverseMouse=FALSE
LimitValue=TRUE
SelfCenterRate=0.000000
KeyControlRate=1.000000
AllowKeyControl=TRUE
IncreaseControl=THRUST_VECTOR_UP
DecreaseControl=THRUST_VECTOR_DOWN
CenterControl=
 

Note: The above is last line of my Logitech ini (do not copy this line)

Edited August 4, 2014 by csb

[saisran 84]

This is quite late a reply but. Thanks! I really appreciate your response. I found a good mix to assign the flight and weapons use to the stick along with radar selection and targeting while all other function are left as they were on the keyboard. this way my left hand moves freely on the board towards the keys it was accustomed to and i can concentrate on flying with my right. THanks