Gatling20 Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) This is the black weirdness I found on the new PTO P-40B, which I mentioned. Fly the aircraft without the Decals folder and the aircraft looks like this, with the fuselage and wings all black. With the Decals folder present all is fine, so there is no problem, but it is a weirdness I have never seen before, so I though it was worth a post. Also the wing MG ejection positions which need some adjustment to match the positions on the skin. Edited May 3, 2015 by Gatling20
Wrench Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 gun fix... [LeftNoseGun]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=50CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=-0.177,2.102,0.493LightPosition=-0.177,2.102,0.493AimAngles=0.0,-0.1,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectionPosition=-0.25,0.62,-0.90EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0MinExtentPosition=-2.218,-1.3,-0.573MaxExtentPosition=-2.118,0.259,-0.457GunGroup=1 [RightNoseGun]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=50CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=0.177,2.102,0.493LightPosition=0.177,2.102,0.493AimAngles=0.0,-0.1,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectionPosition=0.25,0.62,-0.90EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0MinExtentPosition=2.118,-1.3,-0.573MaxExtentPosition=2.218,0.259,-0.457GunGroup=1 // Wing 30Cals ----------------------- [LeftGun1]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=30CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=-1.950,0.437,-0.517LightPosition=-1.950,0.437,-0.517AimAngles=0.2,0.3,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectPosition=-1.90,-0.19,-0.643EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0MinExtentPosition=-1.784,-1.382,-0.613MaxExtentPosition=-1.684,0.273,-0.497GunGroup=2 [LeftGun2]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=30CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=-2.168,0.430,-0.497LightPosition=-2.168,0.430,-0.497AimAngles=0.2,0.3,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectPosition=-2.18,-0.19,-0.628MinExtentPosition=-2.0,-1.324,-0.593MaxExtentPosition=-1.9,0.263,-0.477GunGroup=2 [RightGun1]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=30CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=1.950,0.437,-0.517LightPosition=1.950,0.437,-0.517AimAngles=-0.2,0.3,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectPosition=1.90,-0.19,-0.643EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0MinExtentPosition=1.684,-1.382,-0.613MaxExtentPosition=1.784,0.273,-0.497GunGroup=2 [RightGun2]SystemType=FIXED_GUNGunTypeName=30CAL_M2InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUNMuzzlePosition=2.168,0.430,-0.497LightPosition=2.168,0.430,-0.497AimAngles=-0.2,0.3,0.0MaxAmmo=281EjectShells=TRUEEjectPosition=2.18,-0.19,-0.628EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0MinExtentPosition=1.9,-1.324,-0.593MaxExtentPosition=2.0,0.263,-0.477GunGroup=2 will be in the next 2 Tomahawk releases and a gotta ask the question: why the hell would you NOT use the decals??? I'm completely at a loss as to that....
Gatling20 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Thank for the gun fix, they are working better now. I always use decals, but I usually set up aircraft manually, folder by folder, and I just happened to give this one a fly before copying over the decals, and got the weird result, which I thought was worth reporting Edited May 3, 2015 by Gatling20
Wrench Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 That completely negates the work we modders do, in making packages a simple 'drag and drop' into the /Objects folder. Next time, try installing things the way they're set up. We (all the mainstream modders) don't do things like some other people, where we "forget" to put things in the proper folder order/tree. I do think I know WHY it turned black; could have been something with the skin bmps (were actually from the E, not the B). Black is what the LOD material looks like in SF2. If you'd seen that in 1stGens, it would have been white. IIRC, it may have something to do with the DX10 shaders, but ??? However, even renaming the decals ini, I was unable to duplicate it I've just updated the package with the corrected ejection positions, and new skins, with correct skin maps
+whiteknight06604 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 "That completely negates the work we modders do, in making packages a simple 'drag and drop' into the /Objects folder. Next time, try installing things the way they're set up. We (all the mainstream modders) don't do things like some other people, where we "forget" to put things in the proper folder order/tree." one hopes the wink was omitted by accident......
Gatling20 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 I'm sure it was. I don't take offence, and am always grateful to modders for their efforts. I was just reporting a weird glitch which I found which I thought people might be interested to know about. I suspect it was caused by the over-complicated Decals.INI file, with a whole bunch of unused null entries, but who knows, and the solution is easy - just have the decals folder present.
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