Vectoring Thrust/VTOL

[WINGEDHUSSAR]

I have harriers and helicopters (and F-35B), and ive looked around for this, but how can i map (on keyboard) thrust vectoring commands, atleast for VTOL aircraft? 

[Snailman]

As far as I know they are ctrl_+ and ctrl_-  by default.

[WINGEDHUSSAR]

As far as I know they are ctrl_+ and ctrl_-  by default.

ok cool, that worked, but i cant get a Harrier off the ground, got it to hover (starting from air) but cant get one off the ground

[Snailman]

The Harrier was designed to start in short rolling take off. Early models can only take off vertically if empty. Try rolling a bit, accelerating to 50-100km/h, then turn the thrust. Same can be done with Yak-38 and 41 as well.

[fallenphoenix1986]

ok cool, that worked, but i cant get a Harrier off the ground, got it to hover (starting from air) but cant get one off the ground

 

It can be done but not if you want to carry enough fuel/armament to do anything useful.

[WINGEDHUSSAR]

The Harrier was designed to start in short rolling take off. Early models can only take off vertically if empty. Try rolling a bit, accelerating to 50-100km/h, then turn the thrust. Same can be done with Yak-38 and 41 as well.

 

 

It can be done but not if you want to carry enough fuel/armament to do anything useful.

yeah, i figured that out, missiles, bombs and full fuel make it heavy. also realized that maybe VTOL would be better useful with a joystick instead of a keyboard, i have crashed so many times. 

[Snailman]

sure... take care of weight. As far as Yak-38 I did it intentionally on the edge, so it can VTOL with light ordnance only. Thrust vs weight ratio. You can calculate, IF Thrust - Take off weight > Ordnance then you can vertical off.

 

Contemporary Harriers were the same, but they had the STOVL doctrine from trampoline from the start, Yaks had to develop this technique later on (1982-).

 

 

 

Geez.. man - without joystick? That's quite masochistic if you ask me

[WINGEDHUSSAR]

sure... take care of weight. As far as Yak-38 I did it intentionally on the edge, so it can VTOL with light ordnance only. Thrust vs weight ratio. You can calculate, IF Thrust - Take off weight > Ordnance then you can vertical off.

 

Contemporary Harriers were the same, but they had the STOVL doctrine from trampoline from the start, Yaks had to develop this technique later on (1982-).

 

 

 

Geez.. man - without joystick? That's quite masochistic if you ask me

i had a joystick, but its not working, using keyboard now. its not that bad, but in the case of VTOL aircraft, i need a joystick

[yakarov79]

i had a joystick, but its not working, using keyboard now. its not that bad, but in the case of VTOL aircraft, i need a joystick

re-asign controls....

temporary when my stick was "disabled" i set throttle controls decrease was Z increase was X....key....and vectoring was ctrl+Z/ctrl+X it was pretty easy to controll..also rudder on  A/S and D was Speedbrake.

[WINGEDHUSSAR]

re-asign controls....

temporary when my stick was "disabled" i set throttle controls decrease was Z increase was X....key....and vectoring was ctrl+Z/ctrl+X it was pretty easy to controll..also rudder on  A/S and D was Speedbrake.

been using the default Keyboard mapping, my issue is transitioning from vertical to horizontal flight. i turn on wing leveler, which does fairly well keeping me from cart-wheeling into the ground (atleast with the Harriers, F-35B is hard to handle). im getting the hang of it though, i can get a MV-22 off the ground without crashing.