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F-22 Raptor, F-35 JSF, F/A-37 Talon
Fubar512 replied to Shin_kazama's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
It was the dev's first FM, and he created it from scratch. Had he asked one of the FM-experts to pen the flight model for him, it might still be a WIP. Proper FMs take almost as much time as the 3D model itself. -
File Structure
Fubar512 replied to super61's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
In the aircraft folder, by themselves, outside of any plane folders. -
MiG-21PFM data tweaking
Fubar512 replied to Bulldog's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
\\AIRTEVRON 5***23May2006\ [MissionData] NationName=SOVIET ServiceStartYear=1965 ServiceEndYear=1971 AircraftRole=FIGHTER AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT Availability=VERY_COMMON PrimaryRoles=CAP,INTERCEPT SecondaryRoles=STRIKE,ESCORT,CAS,SEAD,ARMED_RECON,ANTI_SHIP,RECON NormalMissionRadius=367 MaxMissionRadius=400 Ceiling=15500.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL [FlightControl] StallSpeed=65.00 CruiseSpeed=200.00 ClimbSpeed=120.00 CornerSpeed=194.27 MaxG=8.0 MaxSpeedSL=330.00 MachLimit=2.10 PitchDamper=0.85 RollDamper=0.75 YawDamper=0.3 [DetectSystem] Name=RP-21 RadarType=AIR_INTERCEPT RadarType=AIR_INTERCEPT RangeUnit=KM RadarAzimuthLimit=17.65 RadarElevationLimit=17.65 RadarSearchTime=2.0 RadarSearchRange=20 RadarSearchStrength=40 RadarTrackTime=2.0 RadarTrackRange=20 RadarTrackStrength=40 VisualBlindArc=5,6,7 VisualRestrictedArc=4L,8L,12L MaxVisibleDistance=16100.0 HasRWR=TRUE [sound] EngineSoundName=MiGEngine AfterburnerSoundName=JetBurner DamagedEngineSoundName=PlaneFire FlapsSoundName=Flaps LandingSoundName=TireTouch AirbrakesSoundName=Airbrakes GearsSoundName=Gear StallSoundName=NotApplicable WindSoundName= [AircraftData] EmptyMass=5383.0 EmptyInertia=34990.6,3617.1,38405.8 CGPosition=0.00,0.00,0.00 ReferenceArea=22.95 ReferenceSpan=7.15 ReferenceLength=13.46\\without probe ReferenceChord=4.14 UseMetricUnit=TRUE \\CL_Chord=6.20 \\Tip_Chord=0.410 \\LE_SweepAngle=57° Component[001]=Fuselage Component[002]=Nose Component[003]=LeftWing Component[004]=RightWing Component[005]=LeftStab Component[006]=RightStab Component[007]=VertTail Component[008]=LeftOuterWing Component[009]=RightOuterWing [Fuselage] ModelNodeName=Fuselage HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE CLa=0.1269 CD0=0.0107 CDL=0.0001 Cm0=0.0001 Cmq=-0.1553 Cmad=-0.0097 Cyb=-0.1269 CLaMachTableNumData=7 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,0.858,0.990,1.152,1.295 CD0MachTableNumData=7 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.025,1.000,1.027,1.558,1.380,1.291,1.204 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=148.039,93.226,53.950,27.622,11.653,3.453,0.432,0.000,0.432,3.453,11.653,27.622,53.950,93.226,148.039 CmqMachTableNumData=7 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=1.000,1.000,1.000,26.344,28.865,36.234,43.964 MinExtentPosition=-0.60,-6.12,-0.66 MaxExtentPosition= 0.60, 0.19, 1.06 CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00, 0.74, 1.06 CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00, 0.74,-0.60 CollisionPoint[003]= 0.60, 0.74, 0.00 CollisionPoint[004]=-0.60, 0.74, 0.00 CollisionPoint[005]= 0.00,-6.12,-0.49 CollisionPoint[006]= 0.00,-6.12, 0.49 CollisionPoint[007]= 0.49,-6.12, 0.00 CollisionPoint[008]=-0.49,-6.12, 0.00 DamageRating=DESTROYED DamageRating=DESTROYED SystemName[001]=Engine SystemName[002]=FuselageFuelCell [Nose] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=Nose DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.272 HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE MaxExtentPosition= 0.58,6.08, 1.06 MinExtentPosition= -0.58,0.74,-0.60 CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00,6.08,-0.47 CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00,6.08, 0.40 CollisionPoint[003]= 0.00,3.15, 1.03 SystemName[001]=InternalGun SystemName[002]=AftCockpitFuelCell SystemName[003]=Pilot SystemName[004]=NoseGear SystemName[005]=LeftFrontAirbrake SystemName[006]=RightFrontAirbrake [LeftWing] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=LeftWing DestroyedNodeName=LeftWing_Damaged ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.091 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=0.005 CLa=0.7836 CD0=0.0040 CDL=0.00154 Cm0=0.002 Cmq=-0.1475 Cmad=-2.5042 Cyb=-0.0057 Clb=-0.2008 Clp=-0.0537 Clr=0.0102 Cnb=-0.1838 Cnp=0.0005 Cnr=-0.0020 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.900,0.922,1.000,1.172,1.200,1.215,1.215,0.7890,0.997,1.062,1.054,1.056,1.059 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,1.343,1.507,1.835,1.956,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=49.000,36.000,25.000,16.000,9.000,4.000,1.000,0.000,1.000,4.000,9.000,16.000,25.000,36.000,49.000 CmqMachTableNumData=7 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.888,1.000,1.719,-19.627,-1.178,1.040,1.045 Cm0AlphaTableNumData=15 Cm0AlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 Cm0AlphaTableStartX=-28.00 Cm0AlphaTableData=1.074,1.061,1.064,1.022,1.015,1.013,1.007,1.006,0.000,1.009,1.034,1.074,1.129,1.200,1.285 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=1.268,1.195,1.134,1.084,1.045,1.017,1.000,0.994,1.000,1.017,1.045,1.084,1.134,1.195,1.268 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-7.709,-6.621,-5.532,-4.443,-3.355,-2.266,-1.177,-0.089,1.000,2.089,3.177,4.266,5.355,6.443,7.532 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-16.849,-12.007,-8.365,-5.656,-3.654,-2.162,-1.000,0.000,1.000,2.162,3.654,5.656,8.365,12.007,16.849 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=32.704,24.118,16.852,10.908,6.284,2.982,1.000,0.339,1.000,2.982,6.284,10.908,16.852,24.118,32.704 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-0.3957,-0.3980,-0.400,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.2915 AlphaStall=19.00 AlphaMax=22.00 AlphaDepart=28.00 StallMoment=0.07 StallHysteresis=0.633 StallDrag=1.00 PostStallCma=0.23 PostStallZeroLiftAlpha=75 Ymac=-0.90 MinExtentPosition= -2.04,-3.03,-0.16 MaxExtentPosition= -0.57, 2.01, 0.09 CollisionPoint[001]=-2.04,-0.14,-0.10 CollisionPoint[002]=-2.04,-3.03,-0.10 SystemName[001]=LeftFlap SystemName[002]=LeftWingFuelCell SystemName[003]=LeftMainGear SystemName[004]=LeftLandingLight [RightWing] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=RightWing DestroyedNodeName=RightWing_Damaged ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.091 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=0.005 CLa=0.7836 CD0=0.0040 CDL=0.00154 Cm0=0.002 Cmq=-0.1475 Cmad=-0.5042 Cyb=-0.0057 Clb=-0.2008 Clp=-0.0537 Clr=0.0102 Cnb=-0.1838 Cnp=0.0005 Cnr=-0.0020 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.900,0.922,1.000,1.172,1.200,1.215,1.215,0.7890,0.997,1.062,1.054,1.056,1.059 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,1.343,1.507,1.835,1.956,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=49.000,36.000,25.000,16.000,9.000,4.000,1.000,0.000,1.000,4.000,9.000,16.000,25.000,36.000,49.000 CmqMachTableNumData=7 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.888,1.000,1.719,-19.627,-1.178,1.040,1.045 Cm0AlphaTableNumData=15 Cm0AlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 Cm0AlphaTableStartX=-28.00 Cm0AlphaTableData=1.074,1.061,1.064,1.022,1.015,1.013,1.007,1.006,0.000,1.009,1.034,1.074,1.129,1.200,1.285 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=1.268,1.195,1.134,1.084,1.045,1.017,1.000,0.994,1.000,1.017,1.045,1.084,1.134,1.195,1.268 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-7.709,-6.621,-5.532,-4.443,-3.355,-2.266,-1.177,-0.089,1.000,2.089,3.177,4.266,5.355,6.443,7.532 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-16.849,-12.007,-8.365,-5.656,-3.654,-2.162,-1.000,0.000,1.000,2.162,3.654,5.656,8.365,12.007,16.849 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=32.704,24.118,16.852,10.908,6.284,2.982,1.000,0.339,1.000,2.982,6.284,10.908,16.852,24.118,32.704 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-0.3957,-0.3980,-0.400,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.2915 AlphaStall=19.00 AlphaMax=22.00 AlphaDepart=28.00 StallMoment=0.07 StallHysteresis=0.633 StallDrag=1.00 PostStallCma=0.23 PostStallZeroLiftAlpha=75 Ymac=0.90 MinExtentPosition= 0.57,-3.03,-0.16 MaxExtentPosition= 2.04, 2.01, 0.09 CollisionPoint[001]=2.04,-0.14,-0.10 CollisionPoint[002]=2.04,-3.03,-0.10 SystemName[001]=RightFlap SystemName[002]=RightWingFuelCell SystemName[003]=RightMainGear SystemName[004]=RightLandingLight [LeftOuterWing] ParentComponentName=LeftWing ModelNodeName=LeftOuterWing ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.038 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CLa=0.6224 CD0=0.0034 CDL=0.0010 Cmq=-0.2284 Cmad=-0.1286 Clb=0.1825 Clp=-0.0420 Clr=0.01790 Cnb=0.1020 Cnp=0.0008 Cnr=0.0002 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.996,0.998,1.000,1.006,1.012,1.0775,1.143,1.1065,1.070,1.062,1.054,1.056,1.059 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,1.343,1.507,1.835,1.956,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=49.000,36.000,25.000,16.000,9.000,4.000,1.000,0.000,1.000,4.000,9.000,16.000,25.000,36.000,49.000 CmqMachTableNumData=7 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.888,1.000,1.750,16.297,3.412,1.013,0.675 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=2.110,1.971,1.832,1.694,1.555,1.416,1.277,1.139,1.000,0.861,0.723,0.584,0.445,0.306,0.168 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=8.442,6.427,4.721,3.326,2.240,1.465,1.000,0.845,1.000,1.465,2.240,3.326,4.721,6.427,8.442 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-7.304,-6.266,-5.228,-4.190,-3.152,-2.114,-1.076,-0.038,1.000,2.038,3.076,4.114,5.152,6.190,7.228 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-181.494,-112.534,-64.716,-33.402,-14.624,-4.882,-1.000,0.000,1.000,4.882,14.624,33.402,64.716,112.534,181.494 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=115.695,84.632,58.347,36.842,20.116,8.168,1.000,-1.389,1.000,8.168,20.116,36.842,58.347,84.632,115.695 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-0.3957,-0.3980,-0.400,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.2054 AlphaStall=17.00 AlphaMax=21.00 AlphaDepart=26.00 StallMoment=0.001 PostStallCma=0.2 StallHysteresis=0.633 StallDrag=0.25 PostStallZeroLiftAlpha=85 Ymac=-1.845 MinExtentPosition= -3.63,-3.03,-0.21 MaxExtentPosition= -2.04,-0.14,-0.04 CollisionPoint[001]=-3.63,-3.11,-0.19 CollisionPoint[002]=-3.63,-3.03,-0.19 HasVortexEmitter=TRUE VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter VortexPosition=-3.63,-2.57,-0.18 VortexG=2.5 SystemName[001]=LeftAileron SystemName[002]=LeftWingStation SystemName[003]=LeftPositionLight [RightOuterWing] ParentComponentName=RightWing ModelNodeName=RightOuterWing ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.035 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CLa=0.6224 CD0=0.0034 CDl=0.0010 Cmq=-0.2284 Cmad=-0.1286 Clb=0.1825 Clp=-0.0420 Clr=0.01790 Cnb=0.1020 Cnp=0.0008 Cnr=0.0002 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.996,0.998,1.000,1.006,1.012,1.0775,1.143,1.1065,1.070,1.062,1.054,1.056,1.059 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,1.343,1.507,1.835,1.956,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=49.000,36.000,25.000,16.000,9.000,4.000,1.000,0.000,1.000,4.000,9.000,16.000,25.000,36.000,49.000 CmqMachTableNumData=7 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.888,1.000,1.750,16.297,3.412,1.013,0.675 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=2.110,1.971,1.832,1.694,1.555,1.416,1.277,1.139,1.000,0.861,0.723,0.584,0.445,0.306,0.168 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=8.442,6.427,4.721,3.326,2.240,1.465,1.000,0.845,1.000,1.465,2.240,3.326,4.721,6.427,8.442 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-7.304,-6.266,-5.228,-4.190,-3.152,-2.114,-1.076,-0.038,1.000,2.038,3.076,4.114,5.152,6.190,7.228 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-181.494,-112.534,-64.716,-33.402,-14.624,-4.882,-1.000,0.000,1.000,4.882,14.624,33.402,64.716,112.534,181.494 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=115.695,84.632,58.347,36.842,20.116,8.168,1.000,-1.389,1.000,8.168,20.116,36.842,58.347,84.632,115.695 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-0.3957,-0.3980,-0.400,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567,-1.0567 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.2054 AlphaStall=17.0 AlphaMax=21.00 AlphaDepart=27.00 StallMoment= 0.001 PostStallCma=0.2 StallHysteresis=0.633 StallDrag=0.25 PostStallZeroLiftAlpha=85 Ymac=1.845 MinExtentPosition= 2.04,-3.03,-0.21 MaxExtentPosition= 3.63,-0.14,-0.04 CollisionPoint[001]=3.63,-3.11,-0.19 CollisionPoint[002]=3.63,-3.03,-0.19 HasVortexEmitter=TRUE VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter VortexPosition=3.63,-2.57,-0.18 VortexG=2.5 SystemName[001]=RightAileron SystemName[002]=RightWingStation SystemName[003]=RightPositionLight [VertTail] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=VertTail ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.049 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE CD0=0.0012 Cyb=-0.4456 Cyp=0.0252 Cyr=0.5941 Clb=0.0044 Clp=-0.0003 Clr=-0.0059 Cnb=0.2971 Cnp=-0.0168 Cnr=-1.8986 CD0MachTableNumData=7 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.441,1.000,1.048,2.741,1.890,1.877,1.567 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=-34.598,-30.520,-26.293,-21.938,-39.341,-27.035,-14.867,-3.668,1.000,5.664,10.300,14.885,19.399,23.817,28.120 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=399.962,308.900,226.905,155.612,96.450,50.612,19.034,2.374,1.000,14.983,44.094,87.811,145.327,215.564,297.197 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-29.615,-27.162,-24.180,-20.727,-16.871,-12.687,-8.255,-3.663,1.000,5.644,10.178,14.514,18.567,22.259,25.518 CnbAlphaTableNumData=15 CnbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnbAlphaTableData=0.856,0.890,0.920,0.945,0.965,0.981,0.992,0.999,1.000,0.997,0.988,0.975,0.957,0.935,0.907 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-9.895,-9.008,-7.936,-6.702,-5.328,-3.841,-2.271,-0.646,1.000,2.636,4.231,5.752,7.171,8.459,9.591 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=0.153,0.165,0.176,0.186,0.778,0.856,0.930,1.000,1.000,0.995,0.920,0.841,0.759,0.182,0.172 MinExtentPosition= -0.06,-7.37,0.49 MaxExtentPosition= 0.06,-2.64,2.42 CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00,-7.37,2.36 CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00,-5.80,2.40 SystemName[001]=Rudder SystemName[002]=TailLight1 [LeftStab] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=Leftstab ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.012 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=-0.0115 CLa= 0.1863 CD0=0.00072 CDL=0.00017 Cmq=0.2014 Cyb=-0.0201 Clp=-0.0036 Cnb=0.0156 CL0MachTableNumData=25 CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.10 CL0MachTableStartX=0.00 CL0MachTableData=0.9993,0.9642,0.9330,0.9046,0.8783,0.8535,0.8298,0.8070,0.599,0.4667,0.3545,0.3022,0.230,0.2122,0.1945,0.1767,0.159,0.1432,0.1275,0.1117,0.096,0.1142,0.1325,0.1507,0.169 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.607,0.8035,1.000,0.785,0.570,0.5465,0.523,0.5795,0.636,0.6305,0.625,0.6145,0.604 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,0.943,2.307,2.335,2.256,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=50.450,38.025,27.353,18.435,11.271,5.860,2.204,0.300,0.151,1.755,5.113,10.224,17.089,25.708,36.081 CmqMachTableNumData=25 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.10 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.9993,0.9642,0.9330,0.9046,0.8783,0.8535,0.8298,0.8070,0.599,0.4667,0.3545,0.3022,0.230,0.2122,0.1945,0.1767,0.159,0.1432,0.1275,0.1117,0.096,0.1142,0.1325,0.1507,0.169 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-5.865,-5.870,-5.890,-6.135,-6.14,-6.142,-6.143 Ymac=-0.76 MovingSurface=TRUE ControlSystemID=1 MinExtentPosition= -1.83,-7.21,0.11 MaxExtentPosition= -0.52,-4.17,0.01 CollisionPoint[001]=-1.83,-6.23,0.06 CollisionPoint[002]=-1.83,-7.21,0.07 DummyComponent=TRUE SystemName[001]=LeftStabilizer [RightStab] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=RightStab ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.012 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=-0.0115 CLa=0.1863 CD0=0.00072 CDL=0.00017 Cmq=0.2014 Cyb=-0.0201 Clp=-0.0036 Cnb=0.0156 CL0MachTableNumData=25 CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.10 CL0MachTableStartX=0.00 CL0MachTableData=0.9993,0.9642,0.9330,0.9046,0.8783,0.8535,0.8298,0.8070,0.599,0.4667,0.3545,0.3022,0.230,0.2122,0.1945,0.1767,0.159,0.1432,0.1275,0.1117,0.096,0.1142,0.1325,0.1507,0.169 CLaMachTableNumData=13 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.607,0.8035,1.000,0.785,0.570,0.5465,0.523,0.5795,0.636,0.6305,0.625,0.6145,0.604 CD0MachTableNumData=13 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.9174,0.9366,1.000,1.147,1.529,1.610,1.604,1.151,0.943,2.307,2.335,2.256,2.177 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=50.450,38.025,27.353,18.435,11.271,5.860,2.204,0.300,0.151,1.755,5.113,10.224,17.089,25.708,36.081 CmqMachTableNumData=25 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.10 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.9993,0.9642,0.9330,0.9046,0.8783,0.8535,0.8298,0.8070,0.599,0.4667,0.3545,0.3022,0.230,0.2122,0.1945,0.1767,0.159,0.1432,0.1275,0.1117,0.096,0.1142,0.1325,0.1507,0.169 XacMachTableNumData=7 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-5.865,-5.870,-5.890,-6.135,-6.14,-6.142,-6.143 Ymac=0.76 MovingSurface=TRUE MovingSurface=TRUE ControlSystemID=1 MinExtentPosition= 0.52,-7.21,0.11 MaxExtentPosition= 1.83,-4.17,0.01 CollisionPoint[001]=1.83,-6.23,0.06 CollisionPoint[002]=1.83,-7.21,0.07 DummyComponent=TRUE SystemName[001]=RightStabilizer // Crew --------------------------------------------------------- [Pilot] SystemType=PILOT_COCKPIT PilotModelName=RedAir1 SetCockpitPosition=TRUE Position=0.0,2.83,0.85 MinExtentPosition=-0.30, 2.37, 0.05 MaxExtentPosition= 0.30, 3.42, 1.05 HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=GLASS Armor[FRONT].Thickness=62 CanopyNodeName=Canopy // Engines --------------------------------------------------------- [Engine] ReferenceName=Tumansky R-11F2-300 Turbojet SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=1 HasAfterburner=TRUE NumAfterburnerStages=1 SLThrustDry=38700.0 SLThrustWet=60000.0 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.075 NozzleAnimationID=-1 IdleThrottle=0.01 IdleRPM=0.37 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.75 CruiseRPM=0.82 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=1.00 MilRPM=1.00 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=1.02 MaxRPM=1.01 MaxNozzle=0.25 FullABThrottle=1.12 FullABRPM=1.05 FullABNozzle=0.90 AltitudeTableNumData=83 AltitudeTableDeltaX=303.8 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=0.9993,0.9642,0.9330,0.9046,0.8783,0.8535,0.8298,0.8070,0.7850,0.7637,0.7431,0.7233,0.7043,0.6862,0.6690,0.6528,0.6376,0.6233,0.6099,0.5975,0.5858,0.5748,0.5644,0.5545,0.5450,0.5357, 0.5265,0.5172,0.5079,0.4983,0.4884,0.4780,0.4673,0.4560,0.4442,0.4319,0.4191,0.4058,0.3920,0.3780,0.3636,0.3490,0.3343,0.3195,0.3048,0.2903,0.2760,0.2621,0.2485,0.2355,0.2229,0.2109,0.1995,0.1887,0.17 8 5,0.1689,0.1598,0.1512,0.1431,0.1354,0.1280,0.1208,0.1139,0.1071,0.1005,0.0939362,0.0873,0.08087,0.0744,0.0680,0.0617,0.0557,0.0499,0.0444,0.0392,0.0345,0.0302,0.0263,0.0225,0.0187,0.0144,0.0090,0.001 7 ,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=25 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.05 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0042,1.0080,1.0133,1.0205,1.0296,1.0410,1.000, 0.9713,0.6908,0.3134,0.1394,0.00,0.00,0.00 WetMachTableNumData=22 WetMachTableDeltaX=0.1 WetMachTableStartX=0.0 WetMachTableData=1.0004157,1.0087311,0.9915914,0.9842805,1.0029738,1.0513222,1.1260442,1.2212654,1.3314681,1.4530341,1.5844839,1.7256399,1.8760589,2.0332034,2.1909406,2.3390799,2.4647821,2.5567926,2.6 135739,2.656534,2.7496669,2.8270453 TSFCM0=0.941 TSFCM1=1.340 AfterburnerTSFC=2.206 MinFuelFlow=0.01 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=0.0,-6.00,0.00 AfterburnerEmitterName=AfterburnerEmitter2 FireSuppression=TRUE MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.03,-0.55 MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-0.64, 0.55 GasTempMaxRPM=600.0 GasTempIdleRPM=300.0 GasTempChangeRate=5.0 OverheatTemp=830.0 DamageTempDelta=300.0 OilPressMaxRPM=25.0 OilPressIdleRPM=55.0 OilPressChangeRate=0.5 LowOilPress=18.0 LowOilTempDelta=400.0 // Control Surfaces --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.17162 CDdc=0.0210 Cmdc=-0.0041 DeltaStallAlpha=-4.56 CDl=1.0 AreaRatio=1.000 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=123.5 Setting[2].Angle=45.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=123.5 MaxDeflection=45.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 AnimationID=2 ModelNodeName=LeftFlap [RightFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.17162 CDdc=0.0210 Cmdc=-0.0041 DeltaStallAlpha=-4.56 CDl=1.0 AreaRatio=1.000 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=123.5 Setting[2].Angle=45.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=123.5 MaxDeflection=45.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 AnimationID=2 ModelNodeName=RightFlap [LeftStabilizer] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=PITCH_CONTROL MovingSurface=TRUE MaxDeflection=16.0 MinDeflection=-30.0 MaxControlSpeed=188.6 ControlRate=2.5 ModelNodeName=LeftStab ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [RightStabilizer] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=PITCH_CONTROL MovingSurface=TRUE MaxDeflection=16.0 MinDeflection=-30.0 MaxControlSpeed=188.6 ControlRate=2.5 ModelNodeName=RightStab ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [LeftAileron] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=20.0 MinDeflection=-20.0 CDdc=0.0243 Cldc=0.0210 Cndc=-0.0011 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.566,0.850,0.987,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.987,0.850,0.566 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.420,1.920,1.981,1.756,1.504,1.252,1.000,0.748,1.000,1.252,1.504,1.756,1.981,1.920,1.420 ControlRate=3.0 MaxControlSpeed=180 ModelNodeName=LeftAileron ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [RightAileron] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=20.0 MinDeflection=-20.0 CDdc=0.0243 Cldc=0.0210 Cndc=-0.0011 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.566,0.850,0.987,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.987,0.850,0.566 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.420,1.920,1.981,1.756,1.504,1.252,1.000,0.748,1.000,1.252,1.504,1.756,1.981,1.920,1.420 ControlRate=3.0 MaxControlSpeed=180 ModelNodeName=RightAileron ReverseModelOrientation=FALSE [Rudder] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=YAW_CONTROL ReverseInput=TRUE MaxDeflection=20.0 MinDeflection=-20.0 CDdc=0.0261 Cydc=0.2185 Cldc=0.0101 Cndc=-0.0576 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=5.365,4.733,4.077,3.402,2.710,2.005,0.044,0.076,1.000,0.898,-0.960,-1.849,-3.008,-3.694,-4.361 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=0.523,0.686,0.857,0.945,0.965,0.981,0.992,0.999,1.000,0.997,0.988,0.975,0.892,0.721,0.554 ControlRate=5.0 MaxControlSpeed=128 ModelNodeName=Rudder ReverseModelOrientation=FALSE // Internal Guns --------------------------------------------------------- [internalGun] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.08,-0.58 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=320 AllowedWeaponClass=GP AttachmentType=SOVIET ModelNodeName=GP-9_Gunpod BurstAmount=12 TracerLoad=2 MaxAmmo=250 EjectShells=TRUE // Weapon Stations --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.10,-0.64,-0.39 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM,CGR AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET ModelNodeName=WingPylon_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.10,-0.64,-0.39 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM,CGR AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET ModelNodeName=WingPylon_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 // Fuel Tanks --------------------------------------------------------- [AftCockpitFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=1 MaxFuelAmount=872.0 SelfHealing=TRUE FireSuppression=TRUE MinExtentPosition=-0.55,0.25,-0.26 MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,1.67, 0.34 [FuselageFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=2 MaxFuelAmount=781.3 SelfHealing=TRUE FireSuppression=TRUE MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-3.13, 0.50 MaxExtentPosition= 0.55, 0.18, 0.90 [RightWingFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=3 MaxFuelAmount=268.7 SelfHealing=FALSE FireSuppression=FALSE MinExtentPosition=0.64,-2.50,-0.09 MaxExtentPosition=2.13, 1.50, 0.09 [LeftWingFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=3 MaxFuelAmount=268.7 SelfHealing=FALSE FireSuppression=FALSE MinExtentPosition=-0.64,-2.50,-0.09 MaxExtentPosition=-2.13, 1.50, 0.09 // Landing Gears --------------------------------------------------------- [NoseGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=1 DragArea=0.124 HideGearNode=TRUE ModelNodeName=NoseGearStrut ShockNodeName=NoseGearHydraulics ShockTravelAxis=Z-AXIS ShockStroke=0.2 SpringFactor=2.5 DampingFactor=1.8 WheelNodeName=NoseGearTire RotationAxis=X-AXIS RollingRadius=0.23 CastoringWheel=TRUE CastoringNodeName=NoseGearHydraulics Steerable=TRUE MaxSteeringSpeed=41.15 Locking=FALSE MaxSteeringAngle=45.0 InputName=YAW_CONTROL ControlRate=1.0 HasBrakes=FALSE RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 MaxLoadFactor=3.0 CompressGearOnRetraction=TRUE [LeftMainGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=1 DragArea=0.278 HideGearNode=TRUE ModelNodeName=LeftMainGearStrut ShockNodeName=LeftMainGearHydraulics ShockStroke=0.3 SpringFactor=3.0 DampingFactor=2.0 WheelNodeName=LeftMainGearTire RotationAxis=Z-AXIS RollingRadius=0.35 CastoringWheel=FALSE HasBrakes=TRUE BrakingCoefficient=0.75 RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 MaxLoadFactor=4.0 [RightMainGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=1 DragArea=0.278 HideGearNode=TRUE ModelNodeName=RightMainGearStrut ShockNodeName=RightMainGearHydraulics ShockStroke=0.3 SpringFactor=3.0 DampingFactor=2.0 WheelNodeName=RightMainGearTire RotationAxis=Z-AXIS RollingRadius=0.35 CastoringWheel=FALSE HasBrakes=TRUE BrakingCoefficient=0.75 RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 MaxLoadFactor=4.0 // Airbrakes --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftFrontAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=Airbrake_L DragArea=0.40 [RightFrontAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=Airbrake_R DragArea=0.40 // Lights --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftPositionLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position=-2.71,-1.17,-0.13 LightSrcOffset=-0.10,0.10,0.00 Color=0.98,0.25,0.25 Brightness=0.03 LightSrcRange=0.5 CanFlash=FALSE [RightPositionLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position=2.71,-1.17,-0.13 LightSrcOffset=0.10,0.10,0.00 Color=0.25,0.98,0.25 Brightness=0.03 LightSrcRange=0.5 CanFlash=FALSE [TailLight1] SystemType=LIGHT Position=0.0,-7.37,2.28 LightSrcOffset=0.00,-0.20,0.00 Color=0.88,0.88,0.88 Brightness=0.02 LightSrcRange=0.5 CanFlash=FALSE -
Exotic/Fictional/Stealth Aircraft
Fubar512 replied to Shin_kazama's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
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Newest Weapons Pack
Fubar512 replied to GodSaveTheUSA73's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
Try this: Go into your Objects/Weapons folder, and delete the existing weapondata.dat file (as it may be corrupt). Using the latest weapon editor, open up the weapondata.ini file, and save it, so as to generate a new weapondata.dat. Close the weapon editor, and try running the game again. Update: I did not notice that you were running Vista. Sony Tuckson mentioned that he'd managed to get SF to riun in Vista by installing the latest DX9.0C. -
F-22 Raptor, F-35 JSF, F/A-37 Talon
Fubar512 replied to Shin_kazama's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
The F-22A model is Wpnssgt's, and is not finished. Also, the series does not yet properly support pitch-linked thrust vectoring, and stealth is currently broken. When Third Wire fixes those two issues, I'll ask Wpnssgt to either finish the model, or release the source file to someone who has the time and talent to do so. -
no sound barrier effects?
Fubar512 replied to littlesmoke's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
They're probably referring to this video, HERE, that I posted last July. It was inspired by something I discovered while messing with Kreelin's Sound3D. -
F-22 Raptor, F-35 JSF, F/A-37 Talon
Fubar512 replied to Shin_kazama's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
What's an F-23? -
B-52
Fubar512 replied to arf16's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
The Thirdwire B-52D is a low-poly model with a low-res skin, and has an awkward FM, anyway. Prowler's model will undoubtedly be worth the price of admission when he releases it. -
WoV/WoE B-52D over Major Lee's America NW Winter Terrain
Fubar512 posted a gallery image in Member's Images
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B-52
Fubar512 replied to arf16's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
The WoE B-52D uses the same model as WoV. -
just a thought
Fubar512 replied to highlyflammable's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
You cannot add an animation via editing a data in ifile, unless the animations are available in the 3D model, to begin with. Also, thrust vectoring nozzles which are keyed to the pitch, yaw, and roll axis aren't working properly at present, at least in as far as player controlled aircraft are concerned. The AI is another matter... The damned AI has no problem with pitch-axis linked thrust vectoring. I've had my ass handed to me from time to time by a "prototype" model that I'm working on -
How to disable the 'external' engine sound when in the cockpit view
Fubar512 replied to jetjak73's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
It changes the engine sound's effective "cone", placing the cockpit outside of the zone where one would hear the full effect. -
How to disable the 'external' engine sound when in the cockpit view
Fubar512 replied to jetjak73's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
Try running it again. It worked fine for me in every TW sim I've tried it on, so far. -
Fiat G91R3
Fubar512 replied to kreelin's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion
Nice model...and nice video! -
How to disable the 'external' engine sound when in the cockpit view
Fubar512 replied to jetjak73's topic in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion
Available, HERE -
File Name: JetPit File Submitter: Fubar512 File Submitted: 2 Feb 2007 File Category: Sound Mods A replacement for the default "wind loop" sound in SF/WoV/WoE. This is the speed-dependent sound that one hears in the cockpit, during flight above 150 knots IAS. The supplied sound is closer to what one might hear in-cockpit during flight in a real jet aircraft. A demo of it in action, HERE Click here to download this file
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A replacement for the default "wind loop" sound in SF/WoV/WoE. This is the speed-dependent sound that one hears in the cockpit, during flight above 150 knots IAS. The supplied sound is closer to what one might hear in-cockpit during flight in a real jet aircraft. A demo of it in action: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...si&img=2224