exhausted

and me too

Bump!

You guys are missing the point. Spots for enlisted pilots only open up when there is a large economic demand on training/commissioning a large number of aviators in a very short time. Let's look at the current payscales: E-6: $2,318 per month, base pay O-1: $2,828 per month, base pay Now let's look at an E-7 and an O-3, in a couple year's time: E-7: $2,925 O-3: $4,275 And in 5 years time: E-7: $3,185 O-4: $5,371 This is why enlisted members of the military have been given wings in past conflicts, and in pinches such as the Interwar-Period 1919-1940, according to (Ret) Gen. Krulak, USMC, author of "First to Fight."

Congrats on the engagement! That's always good news. Re: SHQ, I've been banned there at least 3 times, myself. They can't get my company back even if they were the last post board in the world.

If you can get a membership guys, now's the time! We need to help pay for this site and the backup.

Good s**t guys. Thanks. Let us know what you need. I know none of this is free. Combat Ace is the best, F&CK the rest!

Dusting my '105 off

There was never any offense taken! :) I think the M-21 looks similar! Here's a couple new ones: Buran:

Ahh, the American depiction of the dreaded MiG-23/29 Flankrum...

Man that's so cool. You lucky guy you,

Nice shots guys! I got tired of bombing the same targets in SFNA so I decided to start nuking them. The next day I was tasked to destroy it again.....

You guys really hit a nerve of mine saying we don't have all the freedoms that we used to, but I realized that growing up through the early to mid 2000s. I will still say that we are a great society and our concentration of young people with a desire to stand up for us truly chokes me up sometimes. I wish that worthless scum, Reid would have been in Fallujah as 'soldier' like he claims. We wouldn't be having this conversation today and the trial would never have happened. His burial would have been long forgotten by now. He is truly no big deal. Care for a cock-meat sandwich there, Richard Reid?

There ya go! Those are some really good ones! G.91 F-86 Dog

Soko G-4 BAe Hawk

Seems like it's time for a new chopper in the Army. But try to tell the Marines that about their Cobras and they'll laugh... Pulqui II La-15

Strike Fighters of boats? That sounds cool. PLease confirm what FalconC45 asked. That would be awesome.

Thanks for the participation people. Just a couple of notes, I made clear that the similarities must not include developments (MiG-15 and MiG-17, F-86 and FJ-2, MiG-21 and J-7 [licensed, not copied]). Also, this isn't a thread to point fingers at who plagiarized who. It is to point out how the different designers made things that were similar, but different. I encourage ordinance participation too! It's all in the eye of the beholder, so if you're on a high horse about nit picky things then get off it. NOTICE: I am officially enacting the no posting a reply without a picture comparison. S.73 Ju-52

1982 - May, same time frame as the Falklands, PM Thatcher deploys ships to Red Sea instead of the South Atlantic. Saddam Hussein, after contemplating action against Iran 2 years before, he has been advised that an assault and annexation of Kuwait is a much more likely goal then to defeat Iran. Kuwait is defeated in 4 days. Ronald Reagan, feeling pressure from the gas crisis, foresees his deal with the Saudis falling through and gas prices about to climb back to where they were just before he took office. Iranian saboteurs wreck havoc on Iraqi oil pipelines and the industrialized world is quickly spinning closer to war. The Soviets quickly see to it to defend Iraq's sovereignty and begin to discreetly funnel advisers into Iraq. A NATO-centric alliance is formed and is slowly deployed to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Bahrain, and the UAE. No less then 6 carrier battle groups are deployed in the Mediterranean Sea, the Red Sea, and Persian Gulf. The Soviets have attempted to seal the coalition ships from their supplies by blocking the route into the Persian Gulf by deploying large cruiser groups, including their aircraft carrying cruisers. Also, Soviet forces in Syria have threatened to invade into Israel and Jordan if their territory is used to stage attacks against Iraq. Here is a preliminary order of battle for air units: US Navy/ Marines: 6 Sq of F-14s, 4 NAVY sq of F-4Ss, 4 MARINE sq of F-4Ns and Ss, 5 Sq of A-7s, 4 NAVY sq of A-6s, 3 MARINE sq of A-6s, 2 sq of E-2s, 5 sq of AV-8As and Cs, 6 Sq of A-4Ms US AIr Force: 3 Sq of B-52s, 3 Sq of F-111Fs, 7 sq of F-15As, 8 sq of F-16As, 3 sq of A-10As, 4 sq of A-7Ds, 4 sq of ANG F-4s, 1 sq FL ANG F-101B, 2 sq F-4Gs RAF: 4 sq of Harrier Gr3s, 2 sq of Buccaneers, 3 sq Tornado Gr1s, 2 sq Tornado F3s, 1 sq Lightning F6s, 2 sq F-4Ms RN: 4 sq Sea Harrier FRS1 Free Kuwait: 1 sq Lightnings, 2 sq Mirage F1s Turkey: 1 sq of F-4E, 1 sq F-104. 1 sq F-100C Israel: Kfir, Phantoms, Skyhawks, Eagles, and Falcons Iraq: whatever it had Soviet Union: 2 sq of Yak-38s, 4 sq of MiG-23s, 3 sq of MiG-27s, 2 sq MiG-25s 1977: August 2, 1977: Tensions around the Persian Gulf are raised due to high oil prices and Iraqi president, Saddam Hussein's, apparent intention to annex the State of Kuwait. Intelligence experts were tipped off by Jordanian and Israeli government officials who claimed that Hussein had approached the leaders of Syria and Jordan about alleged plans to invade and annex Kuwaiti territory. US security agencies have confirmed that the meetings were in fact about denying the west of bases to launch a counter attack into Iraq's vast western desert. With Europe and North America feeling the pressure of rising oil prices, their governments have vowed to go to any length to prevent the prices of oil from skyrocketing to unseen highs. US president James Carter has reportedly been in steady contact with Iran's shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, to work out plans to pressure Iraq into staying within it's current borders. The Camp David meetings between the United States, Egypt, and Israel have been accelerated as viable options against Saddam Hussein are weighed. A working plan for peace and strength between the two Middle Eastern countries seems very close. The United States has worked out a plan of cooperation between countries, even including some from Latin America. So far, Canada, the UK, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Guatemala, Argentina, Australia, and New Zealand have all promised military support should hostilities commence in the Middle East. Some countries have been offered debt forgiveness in exchange for their participation. October 1, 1977: Public opinion in the United States has regarded the last couple of months to be a recurrence of a recent nightmare. Sixty-nine percent of average Americans polled have expressed doubt, and sometimes outright anger, about the mobilization of the military to yet another country half a world away. President Carter has attempted to quell public dissatisfaction by pointing out that if we don't act then the record high prices at the pump would triple. Recently deployed or diverted units include elements of the First Marine Expeditionary Force, several Navy Carrier Groups, and recent Air Force traffic indicates the redeployment of certain Army forces from the Korean Peninsula. Also of note is the federalization of several National Guard units expected to be deployed into Northern Iran to protect against a possible, yet highly unlikely Soviet disruption of western forces. Several "cooperation bases" have been established in various locations throughout the Middle East. The Argentinians and Canadians have made a home in Lebanon, the Italians and Mexicans have divided their forces between Egypt and Turkey, Australia and New Zealand have jointly deployed to Israel and the Persian Gulf, Guatemalan troops have deployed to the Iranian border with Iraq and are expected to operate directly with Iranian troops, and the United Kingdom, the United States, and another, unexpected ally have divided up their forces between Israel, Lebanon, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and from within the Persian Gulf, Mediterranean, and Red Seas. Iraqi despot Saddam Hussein has publically denounced the new alliance, calling it the "Puppets of the American Prostitute's Union," and has threatened World War III and annexation of Israel if the rapid relocation of military assets is not immediately reversed. Libyan dictator, Col. Qadaffi, has expressed equal anger at the West and openly supports Hussein. Qadaffi has threatened to re-invade Egypt if peace talks at Camp David continue. Syria's support of Iraq is still unclear, but is leaning to be likely. The Royal Navy has increased presence in the area and the US 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit is standing by just out of the Gulf of Sidra. American leader, Jimmy Carter, has made completely clear his intention to landlock Iraq should a violation of Kuwaiti territorial integrity commence. As expected, Soviet overflights, sometimes into Iranian airspace, have increased and a complete mobilization of Iranian military assets has begun. It has been hinted that the Soviet Union may attempt to use loosely governed territory in Afghanistan's north to reinforce Hussein, or possble more. Reports of Soviet artillery firing spotting flares toward Iranian soil at night have become a source of alert in Tehran. 1965: TBD

See my updates for 1977.

Yes, I have factored that in since day 1 ;)

Awww f*** I can't believe it. RIP MCA, you will be missed and celebrated by my spouse and I.

Maybe set up pylons and adjust their angles?

I don't know but try the Thirdwire Forums sir.

Are there armed recon routes on the Vietnam map?

I'm happy to hear of this progress. Good job on this, I hope it makes it into an official SF2V GWE patch. I was never happy with ANY of the Vietnam campaigns due to these missing things....