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Nice MB thanks. Korea too, Harold Fischer (F-86) and Han Decai...or Dechai...(MiG-15) met up I think in the 1990s. There are some interviews online with Fischer. Here is an interesting, and short, PDF with quotes from Decai...including attempts to use IL-28 with searchlights to aid interceptors against Neptunes. l'>Growth of China's Air Defenses: Responding to Covert Overflights, 1949-1974 , by Bob Bergin. That's an intro, scroll down to PDF link.

Best looking plane, ever, was printed, with aircraft carrier, on a Camel ciggarette poaster I saw in a 7-11 store the 1990s. The plane was taking off from a carrier, dual exhaust plumes, close together, streaking back to the carrier deck. The plane was a perfect Su-15TM double delta, with bubble-esque canopy, but with Mirage III (or f-104) semi circular inlets with half cones. I think it did have a single vertical stab, or maybe, double. And, I'll have to admit, Su-15 TM and F-106 are the two best looking planes, ever, and the ONLY thing that could make them look better, would be semi-circle half cone inlets. Wush I asked to have that poaster if/when they got rid of it. Never liked Camels though. WretchFest Maximus.

_2'>Red Wings over the Yalu by Xiaoming Zhang This was an interesting one, and needed, because it focused on the Chinese development of an air force from nothing. I gather that the PLAAF actually did pretty good in Korea *considering* it began in development and training as a service only in early 1950, about 2 years before (major) Chinese air involvement. That was really, really rushed. Its important to me because in my SF stargetic game, the USSR will be largely isolated (more so than in the real Cold War), and the Chinese would provide support in many ways in surviving a longterm western bombing campaign, and so the Soviets should provide much more support for the (later) Chinese revolution and defensive PLAAF development. How long would that relationship last? Ah, another campaign variable. Next up: Jet Age Man

Interesting inded. Comparing VVS and PVO, the PVO has the P-63s, and some Spit 5s. There were about 2 thousand P-63s in PVO at war's end, and it had good altitude ability. Thanks!!

Jug:: The Spelling Mod. On the ubi IL-2 forums, the Moscow Bureau poasted pre~releace screenshots of P-51 Bertha / Dora cockpit, and the canopy releace handle said... CANOPY RELEACE The forum, perceiving a Russian provocation, erupted in pandemonium and panic, that only a flight sim forum can exhibit. The Russians were forced to back down, and the Moscow Bureau releaced the P-51 cockpit with... CANOPY RELEASE As Lend Leace was an IL-2 forum topic along with Berthas and Doras... ...the Spelling Mod was born, and forever releaced, or lend leaced, etc... etc..

Yea, by the time the industrial bombing got really going, the German Army was already well on its way out of USSR. That said, air defense of the Reich absorbed about half the 88mm flak guns and crews, about the most effective and most asked for (or feared) weapon in the ground war I think. And ammunition as well. That became a real problem as the munitions and chemical plants were destroyed and kept destroyed. Same kinda happened in WW1, the airships and then Gothas took away alot of Britt guns from the front. Ever hear about this one...? The Zeppelin in Combat: A History of the German Naval Airship Division If not, get it. I had it years ago, gave it away. Very very detailed accounts, classical book with tons of photo in certain sections, and gigatons of fine print text.

Cats also saved civilization, from rats, served aboard ships, and kept entire navies operational.

Amazing, thanks. Some time ago, I read an account of Indian -21 pilot he and wingman dive bombed a Pakistan airfield (1973) and cratered it well. A good steep dive he said.

If its just the uniforms, dress the re~enactors as Council members, and use them as originally planned. Exactly what is this re~enactment? pc: Ah .. The Council are re~enactment nazis. lol For you, no re~enactment horse:: As long as the Mouth is scripted to be Silenced by the end, and Good scrpited to prevail, it should be okay.

Yough Horse, long article I found some months back about this, the first time I saw the idea. ~> The Atomic Bombs and the Soviet Invasion: What Drove Japan's Decision to Surrender?

Decades back we had a siamese cat and (mostly) all white German Shepard....but not quite pure enough white for breeders so they sold her cheap. The cat -- Cocoa -- would come up to the dog -- Lady -- and paw Lady's face, then Lady would pin Cocoa to the ground and gum her until she was soaking wet with saliva (like, post bathtub wet). That's how they played. Never a claw exposed and never a tooth bared. Just pawing and gumming.

Got this last night, and read it in about an hour. g'>TWIN MUSTANG: THE NORTH AMERICAN F-82 AT WAR By Alan Carey. Light on text, but includes some really good info about the Allison~vs~Merlin I have not seen before. Heavy on pictures, very interesting stuff here. If you are desperate for info, any info, including ordnance, then thumbs up. I'm looking to get a DH Hornet book, and there is one out there.

Right, Ukraine and Putin. --- Anyways, I'm learning new things, like the original plan was to have the Soviets share occupation of Japan. ughhhhh. Perhaps fortunately, Truman made the calls here. Now, this *is* interesting, and I did not know about it until now... Occupation of Japan:: But this was changed to... wow!!!!

Don't get me wrong here. I was just thinking about the recalls of a Bf-109 pilot flying in the december 1941 Moscow battle. He recalled the Dec 7 Pearl Harbour, and US getting into war with Germany, but he was too busy flying to think about it. About 2 weeks later during a slow time in the fighting over the Moscow area (too cold?) he sat in his tent one night, and realized, with Dec 7 1941, the war was already lost, done, over.

He did so exactly. Perhaps we should wish the USSR had stayed out, then maybe no Korean War, perhaps a US Army occupied Sakahlin (sp?) island, Manchuria, etc... If I recall, there was some talk in USA by early 1945 that it would be preferable if USSR would stay out, for this very reason. However, there is the theory the Japanese surrendered quickly after the Soviet invasion, as they had pinned their last hope on Soviet mediation, and they feared Red Army occupation far more than US Army occupation. That makes ALOT of sense to me. Who cares about Stalin's claims? Don't let that man make you angry. If anything it was for domestic consumption. They did minimize Lend Leace I think in their domestic propaganda. At the same time, the WW2 battlefield and casualties were found on the Eastern Front. You are not domestic Soviet...well given how our .gov is evolving not so sure. Let it go. Lose weight, less stress, feel better.

Full video, much more ~ http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/14/cat-saves-little-boy-from-vicious-dog-attack-in-bakersfield/ Cat jumped in fast. Cool

Figured you'd like this. Amazing surveillance video at the article bottom. Pet Cat Saves Boy From Attacking Dog ~> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/pet-cat-saves-boy-from-attacking-dog--with-video--161925992.html

Stalin kept to the Yalta Conference scheduled 3 months after the end of WW2 Euro. I too never new about this until a few years ago, always thinking the Soviets delayed until it was "easy" but I was wrong. Soviet Invasion of Manchria:: Interestingly, the Germans begged the Japanese to attack Pac Route Lend Leace shipping, but Japan declined, to the point of going out of its way to allow USSR flagged ships to sail even to Vladivostok around southern Japan, at times. Through mis~identification, there was at least on Lend Leace ship sunk by a japanese sub, and US subs sank about half a dozen Lend Leace ships, again through mis~identification. But then US subs were far more efficient at anti~shipping than japanese subs so... I assume at least one reason for the Japanese decline to help the Germans here was memory of the beating they took at the hands of Zhukov in Manchuria, and helping Germany would'nt fix the jam they got themselves into in the Pacific. Not sure. Freaking amazing, and funny, article on the jam the japanese got themselves into. Why Japan Really Lost The War:: http://www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm I'm thinking maybe the US *cancelled* more carriers in 1944 than Japan ever built in its history. Look at the tailoff in war production in 1944, Japan because of loss of ability, US because of loss of need. Smackdown. hehe...the US built more aircraft carriers than Japan built carrier aircraft. ... well ... almost.

Okay, I got these two some weeks back, and they are very good. BOEING B-50 by Geoffrey Hays has lots of info I never expected to see in print for this plane, and detailed diagrams, but the text is a weird format, and confusing, although I have not studied it yet so it may be a good way to organize things. Thumps up. Black Tuesday Over Namsi: B-29s vs MiGs by Earl McGill is a detailed account of 6 out of 9 B-29s lost in a raid against Namsi airfield, good stuff on heavily armed jet fighters vs heavy piston bombers, which is insightful for thinking of strategic game over The StrikeFighters. Interesting stuff on Soviet setup of ground radar and comms in the mountains. Thumbs up. The author, McGill, piloted a B-29 missioned for one of the subsequent raids a few days later, but was cancelled when they were getting ready for takeoff...just in time, these guys were scared when news came back of what happened on the Namsi raid. That's when they went over to night missions. Its all here. ---------- ---- -- - btw, Boeing B-50 is not a typical Air Force Legends book. As one reviewer noted elsewhere, the book is larger and more detailed than AFL books, and was probably intended for another publisher. I love the classical 1940~esque script for the title.

oooh wait, and radar, maybe the most important Lend Leace item for the later Cold war possibly.

good read on the design of the beast ~> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronom_IV#Concept_and_creation

Lend Leace didn't get rolling really good till maybe 1942, after the crucial "win-lose" Moscow battle. What Lend Leace did was to allow WW2 Euro to be fought and won through attrition on the Eastern Front. Most of the trucks that allowed a manuever war to Berlin were US trucks, ... also gold braid for uniforms, as the communists, after the revolution, decided military men had to wear bland uniforms. WW2 caused the commies to panic, and golden braid was a (small) part of Lend Leace. Imagine the destruction of western Europe and millions of American casualties if the western allies faced a complete and undefeated German Army. Scary though that, but then 50,000 P-47Ns manufactured in 1946 would be scary on sheer scale, as the US barely begun to mobilize industry for war by 1945.

Ah, a SAC B-47 airbase? Nice I gotta try that. That actually looks kinda neat. Met an old lady the other day, she had English accent, she said her husband was in RAF, I asked what, she said fire fighter. Cool. She said they had pics of bad things that happened. Anyways she wore an amazing orange/tango/mango/dreamcicle shirt with marshmellow white hat and pants. I think that's what I'll paint my truck. Anyways she finally "admitted" when they moved to the states...1960s...so I figured she's pre~tom~baker but anyways I told her I had 12 and 13 foot Tom Baker scarves, and that I *knew* how long a scarf can get before it gets in the bycicle chain, but don't ask how I know. She loved that.

WOW!!! Thanks, Ceaser and Bore, very interesting. I forgot 23MLD was the newer version, improved for dogfighting (just looked that up) ... thinking of the early versions that would have a place in my SF game that ends about 1973 or so. My thought process does not go much beyond that. What about the Vigg?

Now...just a *quick* guess, to compare with far more brainier souls here... Mig-21BIS -- 4 Mig-23 MLD -- 2 Mirage IIIC -- 6 Mirage F1C -- 5 F-15A -- 8 F-18A -- 7 F-14A -- 6 F-4E -- 4 F-8C -- 4 F-100C -- 3 Lightning -- 1 Tornado ADV -- 7 SAAB DRAKEN -- 6 SAAB VIGGEN -- 7 Kfir C-7 -- 6 The Mirages 3 vs 1c/kfir I'm not sure about. And Viggen I know little about, but I'm leaving them at my first guess.