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Love his strut! He's such a pimp!

So what do we know about it (J-21? J-31?) people? http://www.defensene...|text|FRONTPAGE Alls I know is that, if these photos circulating at the moment are legit and not more photoshopped crap that we often see, for once, this thing possibly looks like an F-22. Possibly... if legit.

Dude, that last shot is AWESOME!!

So glad we didn't go down this path with the 104! There were so many superior platforms out there already. You could have replaced this with the Leyland P.76 in 1973 and STILL increased the RAAF's capabilities! Personal tastes in aircraft aside, I'm really enjoying your alternate history, Sheriff!

Jimmy, if you've got a photo, holler at me on FB. I'll put you in contact with my Korean buddy, She's really nice and she should be able to help you out.

Same here!

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120923/DEFREG03/309230001/China-Navy-Takes-Delivery-1st-Aircraft-Carrier-Report?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE The Carrier Liaoning was finally delivered to the PLAN yesterday, though it's technically not yet in service...

Sounds like a keeper to me Marcos!

...yeah, that was my point dude! (although, I would have guessed plastic) lol! I tell you though, Pak Def forums are great if you need a laugh. I particularly loved one thread where several dudes were shouted down and mocked for having the temerity to correct a thread that spoke of the PAF's J-11s currently in service. And another stating how the US should sell them F-22s... I can only assume for being the BEST US ALLY EVER!!

Technology's advanced a lot since the original flyoff between the Su27K and the Mig-29K. I understand the new Mig-29K has a much lower landing speed compared to it's original incarnation. Maybe China wanted to show the world they respect international copyright by not producing a PLAN Mig-29... Hahahaha! in all seriousness, I'd be interested to see if they introduce a navalised J-10.

Hey Hamza! High five! Oh yeah...

...but then again, it's hard to trust the veracity of grainy photos from the interwebs, because photos of the allegedly 'new Chinese stealth fighter' like this one: ...have been bouncing around for years. All with a bit of an 'Ace Combat' feel. Then again, if it shows up on the PakDef forums, you can guarantee it's bogus. They contain more fantasy than World Of Warcraft...

This image: ...is of a remotely piloted aircraft for a UAV tournament, a technical expo for Chinese Universities funded (in part) by certain Chinese defence and aerospace contractors. It's not representative of any specific aircraft being developed by the Chinese apparently, at least, not in this exact form. And this: ...according to Key Publishing/Air International and a couple of other aerospace sources is apparently a static test airframe of the Hongdu L-15 as it's a apparently much smaller than than the aircraft I'm talking about, which is here:

...and before I begin to sound too cynical tonight, have a squiz at this: Here I thought bad things were beginning to entrench themselves in Libya and something like this happens... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-22/libyans-storm-militia-base-in-benghazi/4275308 ...It's good to have one's faith in humanity restored somewhat, even if only a little.

Israel doesn't just kill 5 civilians though, Knight, it's usually numbers a lot more than that (2K6 war for example was 10:1 Lebanese/Palestinian casualties relative to Israel's). Both sides seem to have something of a casual disregard for civilian losses, despite the 'official' line. Whether it's the specific targeting of Israeli civilians by suicide bomber or rockets (the 'If you're not with us, you must be against us' stance) or the killing of non-Israeli civilians via airstrikes for example (the 'hey, it's war, sh*t happens' approach), two wrongs don't make a right. Floating a protest flotilla into Israeli waters when you know it's going to illicit an armed response is just as irresponsible as landing commandos on said flotilla. Is anyone really surprised both sides decided to punch on and people were killed? Eventually the world will get sick of this bullsh*t and land on both parties heavily (to be honest, I'm surprised we're still putting up with it), but not while each side receives unquestioning support from larger backers with deep pockets and uncompromising ideology.

That was the first thing I'm going to do when it's released, Sheriff.

No... it's not that. I think that's the roughly JSF sized one

RNZAF F-111CGs of the United Nations Israel/Palestine Pacification Task Force during the opening shots of Operation Raupatu, 2006.

...still haven't figured out that whole bear arms issue though.

...but then again, there's the ISI in Pakistan who would arc up (more so than they are already). Then you'd still have the giant fundie bible belt in the US. And now that Kazakhstan now has beaches, we'd have some SERIOUS fashion faux pas come summer time. No... this is not the rosie picture of the future I imagined. Nosireebob.

Now we can finally get some sleep...

No worries. Feel free to holler with any issues you have in the future. Also, welcome to CA!