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1) Good place to start with is sex with your favorite significant other. Put you out like a light if you do it right. 2) Fly a good hot mission in WoV and follow it with a good hot shower and a Dark and Stormy ( Gosling Rum with Ginger Beer). It is called a mind erase. 3) Hot shower and rubdown from your favorite significant other. He/She cannot refuse both 1 and 3 and, who knows, this may lead to 1. 4) Tylanol PM is supposed to be non-addictive. Talk to your own Dr about that. 5) Long term, do more exercise.

As a technique, I add the terrain mods, the most current weapons kit, and weather mods to the backup, and basic install since you will always add those anyway. One less thing to do when you are fitting out a new install for a new campaign.

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You da man! Forgot to add the fuselage spine equipment hump that runs from the rear of the cockpit area to the rudder as another visual difference between the A and C models. There is a nice picture of a C model from my interview that shows the intakes and the hump clearly.

I just purchased the expansion pak for First Eagles through the Third Wire site. They did not pass on to me the download credentials, but they did charge me through pay-pal. Used the site Contact-Us email, but nobody responds to my queries for help. Does anyone know how to get in touch with them so I can get my eagerly awaited expansion pak? Anybody else have difficulty getting in contact with Third Wire humanity? Actually, I'm probably going to just buy another. Small contribution to the world TK invented for us to enjoy. It just bothers me to have such a cool guy represented unprofessionally.

Remember that the B-52H model was the only one that was not a 'water-wagon'. This would be a nice mod for the KC-135 which were just as good at turning a field IFR during a MITO (Minimum Interval Take Off) as any bomber. Does anyone else get a a more purple smoke output rather than the black soot that the water assisted takeoff produced? Is there some setting I could tweak to make it look blacker? I'm getting the squares too. Great mod and I hope I don't sound like I am complaining, I would just love to see the place blacked out like it should be. Brings back memories of sooty skies and burning kerosene!

Taz, These look really special. Keep up the good work. I lead your fan club.

Really beautiful! Nice work!

Welcome, again. Even if you have had an abused childhood and don't understand the power of the Viper.................................................Yet.

Had the pleasure of having a Thud smoke the airdrome prior to a static display when I was in pilot trainng at Columbus AFB, MS. There is nothing like that big beast coming down the ramp with the burner rolling thunder up behind it and moaning deep and rich like a real happy woman. Big, fast, and smokin'. Only one thing is better than that.................. and it is not another century series jet.

God bless them all. I know your pride. Much as I love to ride the Marines, I just can't help loving them all.

The U-2C was the model I flew and the only difference was the shape of the air intakes to accomodate the compressor design for more powerful engines and the fuel slipper tanks on the wings. The last version of the C was powered by the Pratt and Whitney J-75 (same engine as in the F-105 and F-106). With a max gross weight of around 22,000 lbs, she climbed like a banshee (~ 10 minutes from a dead stop to above 21000 m). The later R model was a much larger aircraft (~40,000 lbs) and was more sluggish in the climb until the S model re-engined the bird in the late 90's and boosted its climb rate and top end altitude. If the FM is right, the aircraft is limited to 1.2 Gs and vital things (wings, empanage, etc.) start to come off if that limit is exceeded. Love it if you could look at the minor changes from the A to the C.

Hey guys, how about a Chinese invasion of Southern California campaign. Talk about a tall order, whew! They can have LA, but the rest is worth fighting for! Lots of good imaginations running amok in these forums. Wouldn't it be nice to make an imaginary campaign a little closer to reality than the Pink Ladies of Dharma in their decorated-like-no-real-Air-Force slicked up aircraft from NASCAR. Not that I'm picking on those guys, but put to some as-close-as-possible to reality constraints, it could wind up one popular campaign to jump in on. The PRC Air Force war college may want to play.

Kukulo, This is beautiful. Fine work. However, as I have said of other cockpit mods, the Su-7BM only has one engine and the Su-15 cockpit is made for a two engined bird. Easily overlooked with the quality of the product though. Nicely done.

Sweet new pic for WoV. Gunfighter on the prowl........

Nice! We don't thank you often enough for your great contributions.

Thanks to all. Every day upright and shooting MiGs is a counter!!

Well done on a missing item. Several editions of the Martin-Baker seat are welcome. Perhaps some more modern seats, say for the F-15/F-16/Raptor/F-111. Really looks good on the F-8. Having some trouble with the Lightning, but I am working on it (external view spikes erratically to the center of the screen). ravenclaw, this seat would look fabulous on a static aircraft with the canopy open. Have you thought about that? Once again, well done and thank you for your efforts.

Very well done! Thank you.

When the Duke was making the Green Berets in Columbus, GA, I drove over one day after football practice at Auburn and actually got to shake his hand. He was coming off set in an US Army Huey after a long day. He walked over and spent time with everyone who had come out to see him and was just as personable and gracious as you might expect the man to be. Most of the Hollywood crowd I wouldn't cross the street to say hello to, but the Duke, he was and is something else.

Tomcats, huh? Obviously an abused childhood....... Eagles forever! Welcome!

Well Done!!!

Stay in school, friend! Stay in school.

The F-105 Thunderchief. The F-111 was the only aircraft that could outrun it at 500 feet. Chuck the external stores making her clean, lean, and mean and she would haul-ass like a banshee. Satisfy even the neediest need for speed.

This whole thread is really good. I hope it does not end up a puff of smoke. I was thinking about sims in general and how I would compare my actual experiences flying to my sim experiences and it all comes back to the same thing. Fighter pilots, these days, never work as a lone wolf. Air operations are never lone wolf or single flight operations. If there is a way to imerse the pilot in air operations over a theater where there are multiple types of aircraft on multiple missons over a hotly contested area where performance contributes to overall victory or defeat and getting to a tanker or to a location for a "hot turn" really affects the outcome is where a sim would have the capability to stand out. A two ship or four ship is really part of a major air operation and targets of opportunity abound. While it may sound daunting at first, it is untouched turf in the sim world. FACs that really do FAC duties, escort duty that is real escort duty. Airplanes are mobile artillery and their main job is to move dirt. One-on-one fighter stuff rarely occurs and if it does, one of the sides has to dump his payload to fight and, therefore, has lost the fight before the first maneuver. Integrated air defenses rarely are 'integrated' and any jet in the air is fair game to a AAA site or SAM site with even minor communications difficulties. Rescue ops are right in the middle of the larger war is much more interesting than a stand-alone mission. When the landing rollout includes wiping sweat off of your nose, you're getting close. Does anybody see what I mean. Any other real flyer out there see what I mean?