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It is more about having the time to do the whole SF2 thnig rather than the download link. Moving on is good and understandable It works fine indeed in SF2. The downfrading is the problem, indeed. On the other hand I am not flooding the forum with questions about downgrading. I noticed something intersting and I wanted to share the findign with the community. I noticed "the problem" and offered a solution to the community. I haven't asked any question to the community, to you, or FC. I don't think this is flooding the forum. The planes were made for SF2, and I can download them and be thankful for them which I am A LOT, but once downloaded them I can do whatever I want with the download, including trying to make it work in Sf1, without bothering the modders that are stating that, rightly so , no support is provided for the downgrading to SF1 (even thoguh FC amde a specific t-38A TB for gen 1 on request of members; but it was FC's fancy at the moment , his right as a modder.) And afterwards Id like to share my findings with the community, like I did at the times of '08 patches, in which I posted promplty each discovery I made, hopefulyl contributing to the community. Unless the whole "downgrading" subject is a forbidden subject, in which case, again, and I mean no slight agaisnt anyone, it is understandable since this forum is yours and owner's home after all.

Well for game purposes is "screwed up". It is what happens with "downgrading", as you said it is an hit and miss. Well now we know that and we can prevent the problem. Well defintely there is no problem with the _data and _loadout ini

Yes Who else?

Are they in honor of the Father of Turks, one of my personal heroes?

I have no idea FC. But actually I noticed that while trying to make theT-38A work, which eventually made me understand where the problem was with f-22 and b-52s I installed the T-38 and it was not working. when that happens it is notmally an aircraft.ini problem of some sort. So I ran the game, found no T-38A in the list.. I open with notepad the t-38.ini and this is what I ve found.: [] = = [] = = [] = = [] = = [] = = = [] = = [] = = = = = = = [] = = = = = = = [] = = = = = = = [] = = = = = = = [TextureSet001] Directory=1 RS Name=1st Reconnaissance Squadron Nation=USAF Squadron=1RS Specular=1.000000 Glossiness=1.000000 Reflection=0.500000 [TextureSet002] Directory=71 FTS Name=71st Flying Training Squadron Nation=USAF Squadron=71FTS Specular=1.000000 Glossiness=1.000000 Reflection=0.500000 [TextureSet003] Directory=87 FTS Name=87th Flying Training Squadron Nation=USAF Squadron=87FTS Specular=1.000000 Glossiness=1.000000 Reflection=0.500000 [TextureSet004] Directory=9 BS Name=9th Bomber Squadron Nation=USAF Squadron=9BS Specular=0.150000 Glossiness=0.150000 Reflection=0.000000 Yest, exactly this. Obviously screwed up, I thought must have been some bad unzipping of the file. So I redownload the package, and extract the file.. open it BEFORE launching the game, verify it is the proper one and it is formally correct. Then I launched the game, and again, no T-38A in the list. I recotnrolled the T-38A file, and it was AGAIN, exactly what I posted above. The game actually modified the .ini file. At this point I read in the threads that you had made a gen1 T-38A TB. I downlaoded it and, copied the T-38A.ini file's content (a good one reunzipped from the package) into the T-38A TB.ini. I renamed it to jsut t-38 and magically there is the Talon int he list. At the point I went to check the f-22 and B-52, only to find their .inis screwed up in similar way to what I psoted above. This system never ceases to surprise me.

yes I think too it is the unicode that causes the problem. And yes it was one of the T-38A that could not be used. Well, it was good that it has been figured out. basically it is jsut amtter of re-saving the file in ASCII. I thoguht it was a peculiar finding I wanted to share with the community. Evenutally we will have to move tot he next gen, but many like me can't find the time at the present moment. Personally, I need a few weeks off to upgrade and update, which won't ahppen before october. In the meanwhile though playing is possible, so a little of backward compatibilty options are good. Again, one doesn't expect support from the modders in that filed and this understandable, hence one reason to share all the findings with community.

I've been wanting to that for a LONG time!

.. one needs all what he can get, including Silent Eagles,, with so few Raptors around,,,, (Obama is great,, but htis thing of the F-22 is possibly a mistake, big time)

100% quote.

I noticed this in various planes downloadable for Sf2 in the airplane folder i.e B-52G there are the skin folder. In each folder a decal file that makes its call to the D director in each folder. so fa so good. In the airplane package there is always thoguh a DECALS folder, with subfodler related to the skin inclide din the abaovementioned specific airplane folder. inside each of this subfolders there is a D directory whose content is exactly the same of the analoghe D folder contained in the skins folder in the specific aircraft folder. so basically trough the decals ini the game (1st gen) calls for the D directort in the relative skin folder. I understand it is the same in gen 2. What is the end therefore for the extra folder of decals? Reason is ask is double. A.understanding how gen 2 works. B. retrocomatibilty, sinc eI am not ready to take the plunge yet, mostly ebcaus eI am way from home and I ahve only gen 1 in the laptop at the moment.

Well they help a lot for those unable to take the plunge yet, Dave like me. Actualyl thanks a lot. Leave them please

So basically the whole entry in the decals.ini that specificies the path for the decals is useless? And it will look for a skin folder ALWAYS in the decals folder? this is from the decals.ini of the B25 phase V FilenameFormat=B-52H_PV/23BS/blksig In the old series it will look in the b-52H_pv folder and in the 23BS folder. So if I understand well in the GEN 2 series is it will ignore any decals in the 23BS folder contained in the aircraft folder, and it will look for the 23BS folder under the B-52H_PV fodle in the external decals fodler instead? On the other hand is not useless. Simpliefies incredably installingSF2 planes versions in SF1

Even in the old series?

OMG UMUT, I had another DEJA vu over Yesilkoy airport. Now you know I am going to demand the CL215 base in the Z1 and General aviation apron right?- aleks has a 3d for a good static model. Wow. I can park an F-15 by a CL215 Also weren't some A-310 avialable in TYL colors) they could be put at the fingers

I was actually missing a few lods and inis of the bdouglas in the folder. I have to try again. Simple solutions, men, simple solutions..

Oh that is why then. I have the same problem is flaklands which I had patched to oct08 the argentinian KC-130F take off without their pods. I made a mission a while ago for SFP with a KC130f. I will have to try that.

I totally QUOTE that. well said Jug X, better focus on who has to be changed in OUR country, don't you think?

Pureblue!,,, or rather Parbleau! As they say her ein France where I am working, I am gald "italian" friends are helping, and I am sorry I am too busy to help at the moment anyway the Istanbul screenshot is amazing. the scenario is perfect. It really clicked in my mind for looking like something I ve actually REALLY seen! Again we are proving that Turkish-Italian alliance works. Now if only we could make Istanbul Municipality finance AKOM for some more of that alliance..that would be perfect..

you have most likey missing 3d model. Most likey you have installed a weapon pack withou launching the weapon editor afterwards and saving.

I do confirm. There is no better 'Nam. Thx againStary and Brain!

Spillo è piaciuto moltissimo ai 104isti veri!

..X..how in the hell do you place the infantry on ground? Is it YAP?

lovely,, thanks fubar

I have to ask,, will slava and udaloy be released? In that case,, thanks!

Spillone mi piace tanto questo super F-104