Stary

cracking the b**ch new terrain format is: Still lots of issues, I'll post some of my notes WHEN I decide I'm up to something btw, have 3-4 fps at that scene on unlimited edit: from what I learned so far based on making custom iceland_detailmap.bmp, and as Jules was hinting to earlier, seems we're limited to... (dramatic drums here) 4 ground textures

+4 Grinch!!!

you can export HFD data from Terrain Editor as green to orange bitmap and use it in MAX to create mesh displacement, been there done that, texturing is the completely other thing as now it's apparently shader based. When I'll be back home I want to test few ideas myself regarding texturing

That makes two of us, all the cracking the new stuff excitement frustration aside. Ale, TK released the CAT extractor yesterday (but it doesn't "see" and do not extract LOD files)

I'm in the other home, but back in the first place I'll concentrate on cracking the terrain format... that after this weekend I guess

Su-7 BMK cockpit uploaded by Kukulino (where are you brother!?) based on Su-15 Flagon one, early 2008 upload

I thought the NA one is detailed (mesh wise)

can't find it Icarus

5000? not 50000? Hmmm must check.The worst thing I'll have access to only XP/Dx9 old system next days, geeez talk about bad luck!

yes but max crashes on export, reason unknown, I tried to keep around 20000 polys per part edit: of course when things are getting really interesting I have to go out for few days will be back around Sunday, have fun guys!

dunno, I put simple green and orange texture from heightmap onto it, to my suprise ingame mesh looks like you see on screens above, notice those rocky surfaces on steep slopes. edit: seems there is no collisionmesh so far... will digg

seems there is poly limit per terrain mesh, that's why it looks cut (3D is complete "island") there's something like auto-texturing, seems shader-based, dependant on slopes, height etc do I have a cookie?

first in SF2NA custom map is here: of course land mesh doesn't show somehow yet

or the other way around

then why this locking?

asked the man about some terrain creation tooltips/info, I guess I won't ever have an answer

seems we can kiss our sorry terrain modding a**es goodbye babe!

just now noticed... locked locked locked...

anyone found where .FX shaders are..? used to be in FlightData.Cat, I hope TK haven't locked them too I'm doing some experiments in max, with 1000x1000 km mesh for water, and independent one for test island

good call on blending, chunks are 266 as per list in data.ini I'm getting something in max... water is independent mesh, so is land

as a whole, yes 1000x1000 km

From Iceland_data.ini: [Mesh001] Filename=i012_032.LOD Position=240000.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh002] Filename=i013_029.LOD Position=259200.0000,566400.0000 [Mesh003] Filename=i013_032.LOD Position=259200.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh004] Filename=i013_033.LOD Position=259200.0000,643200.0000 [Mesh005] Filename=i013_034.LOD Position=259200.0000,662400.0000 [Mesh006] Filename=i014_028.LOD Position=278400.0000,547200.0000 [Mesh007] Filename=i014_029.LOD Position=278400.0000,566400.0000 .... This means mainland mesh is made of many individual meshes (size unknown) and these are referenced in the terrain data.ini I guess the names of LOD files are same as map grid, which would point to them being chunks 10x10 or 100x100 kilometers in size

DO NOT try adding to your favourite terrain.ini TerrainType=LOD_BASED ...or go ahead, add that NavalMap=TRUE works on Formosa, but I don't know exactly what it does

[TargetArea055] Name=Soltsy-2 Air Base Position=1836338.8,778392.3 ActiveDate=0 Location=2 Alignment=ENEMY OffMapAirBase=TRUE

Iceland data... [TerrainData] MapWidth=1000000.0 MapHeight=1000000.0 MeshSize=19200.0 [shader001] NodePrefix=w Shader=iceland_WaterEffect.fx Specular=0.8 Glossiness=0.40 ReflectionStage=1 [shader002] NodePrefix=l Shader=iceland_TerrainEffect.fx Specular=0.1 Glossiness=0.20 [shader003] NodePrefix=t Shader=iceland_TargetAreaEffect.fx Specular=0.1 Glossiness=0.20 [WaveMesh] Filename=iceland_waves.LOD Shader=iceland_Waves.fx VertexSpacing=20.0 MaxVisibleHeight=800.0 [TreeMesh] Filename=iceland_trees.LOD Shader=iceland_Trees.fx MeshSize=4000.0 MeshCount=2 MaxVisibleHeight=10000.0 [FoilageMesh] Filename=iceland_foilage.LOD Shader=iceland_Foilage.fx MeshSize=500.0 MeshCount=1 MaxVisibleHeight=1000.0 [DefaultMesh] Filename=iceland_water.LOD [Mesh001] Filename=i012_032.LOD Position=240000.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh002] Filename=i013_029.LOD Position=259200.0000,566400.0000 [Mesh003] Filename=i013_032.LOD Position=259200.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh004] Filename=i013_033.LOD Position=259200.0000,643200.0000 [Mesh005] Filename=i013_034.LOD Position=259200.0000,662400.0000 [Mesh006] Filename=i014_028.LOD Position=278400.0000,547200.0000 [Mesh007] Filename=i014_029.LOD Position=278400.0000,566400.0000 [Mesh008] Filename=i014_032.LOD Position=278400.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh009] Filename=i014_033.LOD Position=278400.0000,643200.0000 [Mesh010] Filename=i014_034.LOD Position=278400.0000,662400.0000 [Mesh011] Filename=i014_035.LOD Position=278400.0000,681600.0000 [Mesh012] Filename=i015_028.LOD Position=297600.0000,547200.0000 [Mesh013] Filename=i015_029.LOD Position=297600.0000,566400.0000 [Mesh014] Filename=i015_030.LOD Position=297600.0000,585600.0000 [Mesh015] Filename=i015_031.LOD Position=297600.0000,604800.0000 [Mesh016] Filename=i015_032.LOD Position=297600.0000,624000.0000 [Mesh017] Filename=i015_033.LOD Position=297600.0000,643200.0000 [Mesh018] Filename=i015_034.LOD Position=297600.0000,662400.0000 [Mesh019] Filename=i015_035.LOD Position=297600.0000,681600.0000 etc