F/A-37A Talon - ALPHA 1.0 Ready for Download

[Sky Captain 0]

A Jessica Biel pilot model would probably get download a million times the first day it's put up.

[Shin_kazama 1]

Same here ... I applied full throttle and climbed and while i was taking pics of the plane it just exploded !!

Engines not very reliable ...

It is great to experiment with that plane. One thing i noted is the afterburners , the plane apparently uses supercruise to fly to Mach3+ , you don't see flames in supercruise , an advantage when you fly at night so nobody sees you when you hit full throttle. I didn't see the movie but i found some pics of it. If it was real the plane wouldn't last long at high speed with the step and gaps like these around the canopy ...

Hollywood ........

Great job again and thanks for the model.

 

 

 

 

 

a later beta version is now released.

just go again to their site.

[Shin_kazama 1]

Same here ... I applied full throttle and climbed and while i was taking pics of the plane it just exploded !!

Engines not very reliable ...

It is great to experiment with that plane. One thing i noted is the afterburners , the plane apparently uses supercruise to fly to Mach3+ , you don't see flames in supercruise , an advantage when you fly at night so nobody sees you when you hit full throttle. I didn't see the movie but i found some pics of it. If it was real the plane wouldn't last long at high speed with the step and gaps like these around the canopy ...

Hollywood ........

Great job again and thanks for the model.

 

 

 

 

you can just adjust the SLdrythust in the talon.data file.

but then again you'll end up blowing up @ 1,100 kts.

 

trust me, i tried it.

(SLdrythrust=99999 )

i just jumped of the runway and blew up on thaT

[Shin_kazama 1]

Cap'n she can't take no more she's breaking up (Scotty Star Trek)

 

 

a better beta version is now available.

just visit zur-tech again.

[+Zurawski 33]

Yup...

 

New version available!

 

Was being sneeky about it to try and get some early feedback. Figured eventually the cat would get out of the bag...

 

Newest version HERE

 

putz with it and feel free to give feedback...

 

Thanks!

[+Dave 2,322]

It sux....like all your stuff.......

[+Zurawski 33]

It sux....like all your stuff.......

 

 

About time someone with some honesty responded...

 

ROFLMAO!

[Shin_kazama 1]

You know, after looking at the Talon quite a bit, it looks kinda like the YF-23 on steroids. Kinda close I think.

 

 

Also, if anyone is interested I have this for the EDI

 

 

Might be useful for someone wanting to build it.

 

 

you know i knda agree with you on that.

everything on the talon looks like a SUPER evolution of the Widow2.

[Shin_kazama 1]

 

Too wide? I think those shots may bee fooling your eyes a bit...

 

Here's the over head 3-way I used as a template (captured from the transition from a cheese video on the official STEALTH website)...

 

 

 

Again... not bad for government work!

 

(Nice critiquing though... your making me look at it's imperfections that much closer) :D

 

 

you know the fuselage sides that line up on the closed wings seem a lot curved...

if only yo straightened it up, it would look right.

 

and can you make a vtol version of it?...

 

and i pray that someone makes the UCAV"EDI".....

 

looks like a steroids version of the f-19.....

 

just a thought.....

[Shin_kazama 1]

 

Too wide? I think those shots may bee fooling your eyes a bit...

 

Here's the over head 3-way I used as a template (captured from the transition from a cheese video on the official STEALTH website)...

 

 

 

Again... not bad for government work!

 

(Nice critiquing though... your making me look at it's imperfections that much closer) :D

 

 

criticisms are for improvement of the one being criticized...

they are useful...

 

anyways got any more schematics of the talon and UCAV EDI?

 

since i am also a sclae moddelre i would like to build my own Stealth sets.

.....

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

Tha Talon works, fine great FM, nice kicka$$ effect when you pull the throttel forward. But it`s not easy to hit something even with AIM-9X missiles, cause the seeker is inside the bay. AIM-120 works good.

 

And I`m not happy with the pit layout but this is a kind of personal taste, Zur I Mailed you some "pics" some month ago... But it`s up to you, and it`s your project so I will be happy with everything you release...

 

Keep up this great work!!!!

Edited March 8, 2007 by 76.IAP-Blackbird

[+Zurawski 33]

Tha Talon works, fine great FM, nice kicka$$ effect when you pull the throttel forward. But it`s not easy to hit something even with AIM-9X missiles, cause the seeker is inside the bay. AIM-120 works good.

 

And I`m not happy with the pit layout but this is a kind of personal taste, Zur I Mailed you some "pics" some month ago... But it`s up to you, and it`s your project so I will be happy with everything you release...

 

Keep up this great work!!!!

 

Hey IAP-Blackbird,

 

Got your pics. Believe me... I tried the "full LCD" concept and just was not happy with the results. With the data I wanted to show, coupled with the size of the gages and their resolution... It just looked completely unreadable to me. I also tried the "no-HUD" floating HUD concept and because of the HUD symbology is projected... it just looked weird / 1-dimensional.

 

I may go back and finish the "full LCD display" and include it as an alternate cockpit in the future... but for right now, I'm running with this one. Call me crazy... but I've grown fond of the existing one.

 

Weird about the missles... I've not had any problem with any of the loadouts?

Edited March 8, 2007 by Zurawski

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

The missiles don`t lock the target in a dogfight, bombay opens and the missile fly away but not in the direction of my target. Will test it further, seems it`s not the missile wich cause the prob but me =D

[Wrench 9,846]

Ok, folks, as seen the the 'Flaming Talon' thread, the pilots are now ready.

 

They're only available at my site, so heres a direct link:

 

Talon PIlots

 

Hope you like 'em!

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

Yap like it!!! Can you make a third version with closed helm?? I painted the small face black but it`s not the resul I was lookin for...

 

But all in all great work!!!

[Shin_kazama 1]

Hey IAP-Blackbird,

 

Got your pics. Believe me... I tried the "full LCD" concept and just was not happy with the results. With the data I wanted to show, coupled with the size of the gages and their resolution... It just looked completely unreadable to me. I also tried the "no-HUD" floating HUD concept and because of the HUD symbology is projected... it just looked weird / 1-dimensional.

 

I may go back and finish the "full LCD display" and include it as an alternate cockpit in the future... but for right now, I'm running with this one. Call me crazy... but I've grown fond of the existing one.

 

Weird about the missles... I've not had any problem with any of the loadouts?

 

maybe if you just do away with the dials and screen edges and display exactly the same info or screens at exactly the same locations without any screen edges or borders and with just a black screen background would it work?

 

is it possible?

 

with the loadout i found out that i could increase capacity including aim-54 c, by just editing theselines:

 

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[WeaponsBay1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=01

StationGroupID=1

NumWeapons=8<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<change as much as you like

StationType=INTERNAL

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM,SAHM,SA,BOMB,LGB,EOGB,NUC,EOGR,AWD,LGR

AttachmentType=USN,USAF,NATO

AttachmentPosition001=-0.0,3.73,0.0

AttachmentPosition002=-0.0,3.73,0.0

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

DiameterLimit=5.0

LengthLimit=5.0

LoadLimit=2600

BombBayAnimationID=7

BombBayOpenTime=.25

BombBayCloseTime=.25

MovingPylon=TRUE

ModelNodeName=Weapon_Rail01

AutomaticDoors=TRUE

 

[WeaponsBay2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=02

StationGroupID=2

NumWeapons=8<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<change as much as you like

StationType=INTERNAL

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM,SAHM,SA,BOMB,LGB,EOGB,NUC,EOGR,AWD,LGR

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF,USN,USMC

AttachmentPosition001=-0.0,3.73,0.0

AttachmentPosition002=-0.0,3.73,0.0

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

DiameterLimit=5.0

LengthLimit=5.0

LoadLimit=2600

BombBayAnimationID=8

BombBayOpenTime=.25

BombBayCloseTime=.25

MovingPylon=TRUE

ModelNodeName=Weapon_Rail02

AutomaticDoors=TRUE

 

[WeaponsBay3]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=03

StationGroupID=3

NumWeapons=8<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<change as much as you like

StationType=INTERNAL

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM,SAHM,ARM,EOGR,SA,BOMB,LGB,EOGB,NUC,EOGR,AWD,LGR

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF,USN,USMC

AttachmentPosition001=0.0000,-0.50,0.0151

AttachmentPosition002=0.0000,-0.50,0.0151

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

DiameterLimit=5.0

LengthLimit=5.0

LoadLimit=2600

BombBayAnimationID=9

BombBayOpenTime=.25

BombBayCloseTime=.25

MovingPylon=TRUE

ModelNodeName=Weapon_Rail03

AutomaticDoors=TRUE<<<<<<<<<<change to false if you would open bays manually

[Shin_kazama 1]

Hey IAP-Blackbird,

 

Got your pics. Believe me... I tried the "full LCD" concept and just was not happy with the results. With the data I wanted to show, coupled with the size of the gages and their resolution... It just looked completely unreadable to me. I also tried the "no-HUD" floating HUD concept and because of the HUD symbology is projected... it just looked weird / 1-dimensional.

 

I may go back and finish the "full LCD display" and include it as an alternate cockpit in the future... but for right now, I'm running with this one. Call me crazy... but I've grown fond of the existing one.

 

Weird about the missles... I've not had any problem with any of the loadouts?

 

the guy building the jsf f-35 mod is making a panoramic instrument display that you may be interested it....

 

 

 

btw, got anymore Talon 1/72nd scale drawings, fuselage detailed pictures(mock-up)

and decals and others?

 

i would be building a scale model,

 

i would also present possibilty for orders, with your name on the cockpit canopy,

 

if i got budget for scratch building more.

[Shin_kazama 1]

any updates for other version of the talon? perhaps a copy of the F-35 panoramic LCD? and even VTOL capabilities?