I have some questions RE: employing LGB's and pods

[marvinblue 0]

Hi all! I've read through the earlier post about not being able to use LGB's and I thought I'd covered all my bases! I'm trying to load a pod (i.e. LITENING / NITEHAWK) onto a Hornet. My version of WoE is patched and I have Bunyap's lateset weapon pack. I've looked up the WEAPONDATA.ini in objects/weapons and LITENING and LANTIRN are there. LANTIRN is the USN version, LITENING is the USAF version. Down the bottom, next in sequence I've added the following by Flanker562:

 

[WeaponDataxxx]

TypeName=USN LIGHTNING POD

FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod

ModelName=LIGHTNING_POD

Mass=75.000000

Diameter=0.359000

Length=2.235000

AttachmentType=USN

NationName=USN

StartYear=1995

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1995

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=2

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268501250

SeekerRange=30.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

I've set the year for 1997 and also modified the LOADOUT.ini for the Hornet to show up on the left Sparrow station:

 

// Station 1 = LeftInnerWingStation (FT, BOMB)

// Station 2 = RightInnerWingStation (FT, BOMB)

// Station 3 = LeftInnerWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM)

// Station 4 = RightInnerWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM)

// Station 5 = LeftOuterWingStation (FT, BOMB)

// Station 6 = RightOuterWingStation (FT, BOMB)

// Station 7 = LeftOuterWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM, SAHM)

// Station 8 = RightOuterWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM, SAHM)

// Station 9 = LeftOuterWingStation3 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM

// Station 10 = RightOuterWingStation3 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM

// Station 11 = LeftOuterWingStation4 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM

// Station 12 = RightOuterWingStation4 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM

// Station 13 = CenterlineStation (FT)

// Station 14 = LeftSparrowStation (SAHM, EP, AHM, [b]LP, NP[/b])

// Station 15 = RightSparrowStation (SAHM, EP, AHM)

// Station 16 = LeftSidewinderStation (IRM, AHM)

// Station 17 = RightSidewinderStation (IRM, AHM)

 

As well as the FA-18a_DATA.ini:

 

[LeftSparrowStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=4

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0

MissileRollAngle=45.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

DiameterLimit=0.3

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,[b]NP,LP
[/b]
AttachmentType=NATO,USN

MinExtentPosition=

MaxExtentPosition=

 

It's still not showing up! What else can I do, or, stop doing?

 

 

Now my second question! I thought hanging some LGB's on the stock WoE A-10 would be pretty cool, but I can't drop them! D'oH!! I take it the stock A-10's Pave Penny isn't properly modelled? If so, would I have to grab the updated aircraft from the downloads section?

 

Thakns heaps in advance for all your suggestions and help! This is what makes this sim so enjoyable!!

Edited July 11, 2007 by Saganuay82

[+EricJ 4,254]

Well the Pave Penny itself is not a designator, it's a seeker, i.e. it's passive, doesn't emit laser energy for the bombs to use. If you use the A-10 Modern you can use LGBs. As far as the pod.. you can use the AN/A-173 or something like that, it's just the same. I mainly looked for it for the Tomcat, since end of use always used that in lieu of the older ones. I'd like to help right now but my mind is fried from trying to do other coding stuff, but one thing, you don't have to specify it on the Loadout.ini, it's just pylon counter, and it works for me, but try this code:

 

[WeaponData1719]

TypeName=USN SniperXR

FullName=Sniper XR Targeting Pod

ModelName=SNIPER_POD

Mass=75.000000

Diameter=0.150000

Length=2.390000

AttachmentType=USN

NationName=USN

StartYear=2003

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=FALSE

ExportStartYear=0

ExportEndYear=0

ExportAvailability=0

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268501249

SeekerRange=30.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

[WeaponData1718]

TypeName=USN LIGHTNING POD

FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod

ModelName=LIGHTNINGUSN

Mass=75.000000

Diameter=0.359000

Length=2.235000

AttachmentType=USN

NationName=USN

StartYear=1995

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1995

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=2

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268501250

SeekerRange=30.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SeekerNodeName=

[marvinblue 0]

Well the Pave Penny itself is not a designator, it's a seeker, i.e. it's passive, doesn't emit laser energy for the bombs to use. If you use the A-10 Modern you can use LGBs. As far as the pod.. you can use the AN/A-173 or something like that, it's just the same. I mainly looked for it for the Tomcat, since end of use always used that in lieu of the older ones. I'd like to help right now but my mind is fried from trying to do other coding stuff, but one thing, you don't have to specify it on the Loadout.ini, it's just pylon counter, and it works for me, but try this code:

 

[WeaponData1719]

TypeName=USN SniperXR

FullName=Sniper XR Targeting Pod

ModelName=SNIPER_POD

Mass=75.000000

Diameter=0.150000

Length=2.390000

AttachmentType=USN

NationName=USN

StartYear=2003

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=FALSE

ExportStartYear=0

ExportEndYear=0

ExportAvailability=0

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268501249

SeekerRange=30.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

[WeaponData1718]

TypeName=USN LIGHTNING POD

FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod

ModelName=LIGHTNINGUSN

Mass=75.000000

Diameter=0.359000

Length=2.235000

AttachmentType=USN

NationName=USN

StartYear=1995

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1995

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=2

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268501250

SeekerRange=30.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

No worries! I'll give it a go and see what happens! Thanks!

[marvinblue 0]

No worries! I'll give it a go and see what happens! Thanks!

 

Hi all! Just a quick update, mainly for Flanker562: your code for the Sniper and Lightning pods didn't work. I think I'm destined not to drop LGB's from my Hornet..... I'll just load more Mavericks!!

[+Dave 2,322]

Hi all! Just a quick update, mainly for Flanker562: your code for the Sniper and Lightning pods didn't work. I think I'm destined not to drop LGB's from my Hornet..... I'll just load more Mavericks!!

 

Did you add LP to the pylon in the Hornets data.ini so it would show up so you can drop LGB's?

[marvinblue 0]

Did you add LP to the pylon in the Hornets data.ini so it would show up so you can drop LGB's?

 

I've set the year for 1997 and also modified the LOADOUT.ini for the Hornet to show up on the left Sparrow station:

 

// Station 1 = LeftInnerWingStation (FT, BOMB)
// Station 2 = RightInnerWingStation (FT, BOMB)
// Station 3 = LeftInnerWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM)
// Station 4 = RightInnerWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM)
// Station 5 = LeftOuterWingStation (FT, BOMB)
// Station 6 = RightOuterWingStation (FT, BOMB)
// Station 7 = LeftOuterWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM, SAHM)
// Station 8 = RightOuterWingStation2 (EOGR, ARM, SAHM)
// Station 9 = LeftOuterWingStation3 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM
// Station 10 = RightOuterWingStation3 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM
// Station 11 = LeftOuterWingStation4 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM
// Station 12 = RightOuterWingStation4 (IRM, AHM) // Use stations 9 through 12 for quad IRM/AHM
// Station 13 = CenterlineStation (FT)
// Station 14 = LeftSparrowStation (SAHM, EP, AHM, [b]LP, NP[/b])
// Station 15 = RightSparrowStation (SAHM, EP, AHM)
// Station 16 = LeftSidewinderStation (IRM, AHM)
// Station 17 = RightSidewinderStation (IRM, AHM)

 

As well as the FA-18a_DATA.ini:

[LeftSparrowStation]
SystemType=WEAPON_STATION
StationID=14
StationGroupID=4
StationType=SEMI_RECESSED
AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95
AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0MissileRollAngle=45.0EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0
LoadLimit=500
DiameterLimit=0.3
AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,[b]NP,LP[/b]
AttachmentType=NATO,USNMinExtentPosition=MaxExtentPosition=

 

Yep.

[far 0]

i had the same problem earlier. I had done evertyhing that u did, but still the laser pod won't show up. Then suddenly in Single Mission Menu, i selected mission year to 2004 and onwards, and to my suprise both the Sniper XR Targeting Pod & AN/ASQ-173 LANTIRN are there in the list. I just could not explained how excited i was (and still is) to be able to drop LGB from Hornet. U can use both pods for targeting purposes,but for some reason the ASQ-173 model won't show up on the sparrow station when you look at the hornet externally.

[marvinblue 0]

Cool! Thanks for that! I'll give it a go and see what happens.... Anything's worth a try!

[marvinblue 0]

I changed the date to 2007, but on the R.H.S. Sparrow station (ID 14), apart from the various Air to Air stuff, I can only load 1 x ACMI pod, or 2 X AN/ALQ-99 Tactical Jamming Systems, both the high and low versions. (One for each sparrow station). I think it's not going to work.....

Edited April 10, 2007 by marvinblue

[marvinblue 0]

I just thought of something... my Hornet is an A model. Does this only work on a C model? If so, what about loading a Nitehawk onto an A? I've also had the same trouble with this weapon. (Weapon #869 of the weapondata.ini, once the weapons pack is loaded.)

[+EricJ 4,254]

No, the F/A-18 shown is an A model, so it's not a C version. I really don't understand what the problem is, but are you flying SF1? or WOE? I use WOE but that shouldn't be any reason why it won't show up.

[marvinblue 0]

I'm in WoE. I can't work it out either. Maybe if I got rid of the jamming sytems? Also interesting to note is the ACMI pod; this shows up in the configuration that I want the laser pod to, that is 1 of on the right hand side. I can't get the ACMI pod on either of the Sidewinder stations.

[marvinblue 0]

i had the same problem earlier. I had done evertyhing that u did, but still the laser pod won't show up. Then suddenly in Single Mission Menu, i selected mission year to 2004 and onwards, and to my suprise both the Sniper XR Targeting Pod & AN/ASQ-173 LANTIRN are there in the list. I just could not explained how excited i was (and still is) to be able to drop LGB from Hornet. U can use both pods for targeting purposes,but for some reason the ASQ-173 model won't show up on the sparrow station when you look at the hornet externally.

 

Just a qick one: How do you change the date in the single mission page? With a Hornet, I can only go to 1988. I changed the date in mission manager for a mission I've been working on to 2007, but I can't do it in the 'create a mission' page.

[Guest Saganuay82]

The AAS-38 pod for my CF188 shows up.

 

[LeftSparrowStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=4

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0

MissileRollAngle=45.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

DiameterLimit=0.31

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,LP

AttachmentType=WP

MinExtentPosition=

MaxExtentPosition=

 

The ACMI pod on the sidewinder station shows up.

 

[RightSidewinderStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=17

StationGroupID=1

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=5.974,-2.57,-0.293

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-90.0

LoadLimit=500

DiameterLimit=0.3

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM,EP

AttachmentType=WP

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

 

 

Mine works.

[+Crusader 2,101]

This topic is watched by the INI MASTER SUPERGOD!

If you cant find the solution for that DAMN LP thingo in 24 hours, then the thread will be DELETED by Higher Forces!!!1

 

:yes:

[marvinblue 0]

The AAS-38 pod for my CF188 shows up.

 

[LeftSparrowStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=4

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0

MissileRollAngle=45.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

DiameterLimit=0.31

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM,LP

AttachmentType=WP

MinExtentPosition=

MaxExtentPosition=

 

The ACMI pod on the sidewinder station shows up.

 

[RightSidewinderStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=17

StationGroupID=1

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=5.974,-2.57,-0.293

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-90.0

LoadLimit=500

DiameterLimit=0.3

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM,EP

AttachmentType=WP

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=34.02

PylonDragArea=0.005

 

 

 

Mine works.

 

No worries! I'll give it a go and see what happens! Anything's worth a shot!

 

This topic is watched by the INI MASTER SUPERGOD!

If you cant find the solution for that DAMN LP thingo in 24 hours, then the thread will be DELETED by Higher Forces!!!1

 

:yes:

 

Sorry! Don't wish to offend the gods!!

[+Crusader 2,101]

LOL

jokes aside..

its the DiameterLimit on your Sparrow Stations thats preventing you from loading the pods. Increase it ;)

[marvinblue 0]

Hi all! I've finally done it! I can select a Nitehawk pod at the loadout screen and I had a 100% strike rate with an LGB on a scud launcher! Yay!! Here's how I set out my F/A-18A data.ini:

 

[RightSparrowStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=15

StationGroupID=4

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=1.3,-2.418,-0.95

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0

MissileRollAngle=45.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

[b]DiameterLimit=0.31 This was increased from 0.3 to 0.31
[/b]
AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM,LP,NP

AttachmentType=NATO,USN,WP

MinExtentPosition=

MaxExtentPosition=

 

and the weapondata.ini:

 

[WeaponData869]

TypeName=ASS-38

FullName=AN/ASS-38 NITE Hawk Targeting Pod

ModelName=ASS-38

Mass=211.500000

Diameter=0.310000

Length=1.990000

AttachmentType=USN,WP,NATO

NationName=USN

StartYear=1987

EndYear=2020

Availability=4

BaseQuantity=24

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1987

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=4

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=4

CameraFOV=5.000000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.125000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268435456

SeekerRange=0.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=0.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

[WeaponData876]



TypeName=LIGHTNINGPOD



FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod



ModelName=LIGHTNING_POD



Mass=75.000000



Diameter=0.359000



Length=2.235000



AttachmentType=USAF,USN,WP,NATO



NationName=USAF



StartYear=1995



EndYear=2020



Availability=4



BaseQuantity=25



Exported=TRUE



ExportStartYear=1998



ExportEndYear=2020



ExportAvailability=4



WeaponDataType=4



StoreType=3



CameraFOV=2.500000



CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000



CameraYaw=0.000000



CameraPitch=0.000000



CameraRoll=0.000000



SightTexture=



EODisplayFlags=268501249



SeekerRange=30.000000



SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000



SeekerNodeName=

 

The main changes to the weapons was to make them exportable (to hang off an Aussie F/A-18A), as well as the availability and export availability value was increased to 4 from 2. Maybe this helped as well.

 

At the moment, only the Nitehawk pod shows up, but in the loadout screen it's labelled AN/ASS-38 LANTIRN Nav Pod. I don't know what's going on there, but I can drop LGB's!! Also, it isn't visible exernally, but I have my graphics set on medium, so that may effect it.

 

So If anyone in the future is having the same problems I had, give these codes a go! Thanks heaps Saganuay82 for the Hornet data change and everyone else who has given their suggestions and support!

[far 0]

I don't think it's the graphic settting. For me, the LANTIRN pod does show up on the tomcat but not on Hornet.

 

 

Hi all! I've finally done it! I can select a Nitehawk pod at the loadout screen and I had a 100% strike rate with an LGB on a scud launcher! Yay!! Here's how I set out my F/A-18A data.ini:

 

[RightSparrowStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=15

StationGroupID=4

StationType=SEMI_RECESSED

AttachmentPosition=1.3,-2.418,-0.95

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0

MissileRollAngle=45.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0

LoadLimit=500

[b]DiameterLimit=0.31 This was increased from 0.3 to 0.31
[/b]
AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM,LP,NP

AttachmentType=NATO,USN,WP

MinExtentPosition=

MaxExtentPosition=

 

and the weapondata.ini:

 

[WeaponData869]

TypeName=ASS-38

FullName=AN/ASS-38 NITE Hawk Targeting Pod

ModelName=ASS-38

Mass=211.500000

Diameter=0.310000

Length=1.990000

AttachmentType=USN,WP,NATO

NationName=USN

StartYear=1987

EndYear=2020

Availability=4

BaseQuantity=24

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1987

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=4

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=4

CameraFOV=5.000000

CameraPosition=0.000000,0.125000,0.000000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

SightTexture=

EODisplayFlags=268435456

SeekerRange=0.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=0.000000

SeekerNodeName=

 

[WeaponData876]



TypeName=LIGHTNINGPOD



FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod



ModelName=LIGHTNING_POD



Mass=75.000000



Diameter=0.359000



Length=2.235000



AttachmentType=USAF,USN,WP,NATO



NationName=USAF



StartYear=1995



EndYear=2020



Availability=4



BaseQuantity=25



Exported=TRUE



ExportStartYear=1998



ExportEndYear=2020



ExportAvailability=4



WeaponDataType=4



StoreType=3



CameraFOV=2.500000



CameraPosition=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000



CameraYaw=0.000000



CameraPitch=0.000000



CameraRoll=0.000000



SightTexture=



EODisplayFlags=268501249



SeekerRange=30.000000



SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000



SeekerNodeName=

 

The main changes to the weapons was to make them exportable (to hang off an Aussie F/A-18A), as well as the availability and export availability value was increased to 4 from 2. Maybe this helped as well.

 

At the moment, only the Nitehawk pod shows up, but in the loadout screen it's labelled AN/ASS-38 LANTIRN Nav Pod. I don't know what's going on there, but I can drop LGB's!! Also, it isn't visible exernally, but I have my graphics set on medium, so that may effect it.

 

So If anyone in the future is having the same problems I had, give these codes a go! Thanks heaps Saganuay82 for the Hornet data change and everyone else who has given their suggestions and support!

[wenkman 0]

Had the same problem. As far as it concerns me it started back with the HUD of the Hornet, which shows simlpy white and which took me to C6 to have the F-18BA (Blue Angels) from their MegaPack which is a upgraded version to fix this.

 

Hanging around with the MegaPack and the Problem with the ASS-38 still unsolved I picked the data from their weapondata.ini for the ASS-38 along with their ASS-38.bmp, .ini and .lod (which are actually two!).

 

Copy and paste (overwrite the old ASS-38.bmp) and it still works fine which means: it shows up in the table as well as on the aircraft itself!

 

Try it and you will love it! Maybe there are a lot of other issues which can be solved with the MegaPack from C6. Just have a look at it always you have this or that issue. It should fix it.