eraser_tr 29 Posted October 30, 2007 It's pointless yes, I understand the concepts perfectly, we're simply looking at things from fundamentally different perspectives. I make no distinction between intellectual property as any different from real property. Property is property, electronic or physical. No, "Oh its electronic, so different rules apply" I refuse to bow down to the DMCA and its legal pandering. I don't care what some corporate hack says, I bought the game, not a license to use it. Thats where we're getting hung up. You're treating it like it always remains theirs, I'm treating it like it becomes mine once I hand them the money and they hand me the game and it honestly doesn't need to be any deeper than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaSpungie 1 Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) wow I am total lost now I did not get the analogy and sorry if i stepped on your religion or it's toes did not mean to offend if I did ideas are a nasty bit to work around we as house designers walk a narrow path when drawing our plans are we copying frank loyd right if we design houses like his? well they look like it out side but the inside is different but we are using his ideas 4/12 pitch roof hidden gutters large over hangs and is a fork an idea or an invention? if we draw a custom house for a client is the design ours or thiers? we took their ideas and made them work according to building code zoning bylaw and construction and when does it become public domain I have done 3d models for patent applications and the client has explained some of it but man it runs you head around Edited October 30, 2007 by DaSpungie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazz5150 0 Posted October 30, 2007 You did not offend or step on my toes. You did make it clear to me that I had to explain more. Because I work in IT, I know I am not really objective on the subject. I just wanted to know how others feel about it. The views of JediMaster were not my own, but I can see the logic / sense in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraser_tr 29 Posted October 30, 2007 Who's offended? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazz5150 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Who's offended? Nobody, DaSpungie thought he might have offended me with the first reply. He didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted October 31, 2007 The problem is as always the law is worded inaccurately and it gets used for a purpose other than originally intended. Of course, without the internet we'd still all be using code wheels and manuals for CP on games and music and video would only be that which we or our friends own. I miss the days of that simple CP. I remember one that was my favorite--match the silhouette with its name! As long as you knew your airplane types you didn't need to open the manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tank03 1 Posted October 31, 2007 (edited) The problem is as always the law is worded inaccurately and it gets used for a purpose other than originally intended. Of course, without the internet we'd still all be using code wheels and manuals for CP on games and music and video would only be that which we or our friends own. I miss the days of that simple CP. I remember one that was my favorite--match the silhouette with its name! As long as you knew your airplane types you didn't need to open the manual. My grandfather showed me a game from when he was a kid during WW2 in Yorkshire. You had to match the silhoutte of the "hun" aircraft to it's name. Obviously, it's design was for a purpose and my grandfather said that the kids he played with could ID planes , not just by their silhoutte, but by engine sound. Edited October 31, 2007 by tank03 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites