JKstar Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 There are lots of flyable helicopters in the "Download" section, but I can't control any of these helicopters in the air, they are shaking all the time and then crashed, everytime...How can I fly helicopters? Thanks! Quote
tank03 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 There are lots of flyable helicopters in the "Download" section, but I can't control any of these helicopters in the air, they are shaking all the time and then crashed, everytime...How can I fly helicopters? Thanks! The game engine wasn't designed for helo simulation, therefore any copter flying is more a matter of "as close as" rather than real simulation. I don't even bother trying, and I use the helos as a/i and eye candy. I've read that it takes very minute inputs and a steady hand to have any kind of control. Quote
+Brainless Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 There are lots of flyable helicopters in the "Download" section, but I can't control any of these helicopters in the air, they are shaking all the time and then crashed, everytime...How can I fly helicopters? Thanks! It can be done my friend. It just takes practice!! Fly it carefully with small control inputs and don't try to hover as zero knots don't work.. you'll just tip up and crash. Try 25-30 knots as a starting slowest speed... you can land at 15-20 knots. YAP (Yankee Air Pirate) have some good models which are as close to a flight model as you can get with the Thirdwire game engine but you have to pay for the priviledge. Actually I don't find that much difference between the YAP flight models and the ones you can download here for free but that's just my view. Once you've got the hang of it they are good fun and an extension of the great Thirdwire sim series but you do need patience and don't give up if you crash the first few times. You need to set the flight options to normal (I wouldn't use the easy or hard mode) and go gently. Have fun and after a while you'll be landing on carriers with no problem!! Best of luck. Quote
Sgt.KAR98 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I believe it was made to work as a regular plane. Quote
+Fubar512 Posted November 2, 2007 Posted November 2, 2007 Kreelin is working on some helo FMs that are amazingly good, considering the constraints imposed upon him by the flight engine. Quote
JKstar Posted November 2, 2007 Author Posted November 2, 2007 It can be done my friend. It just takes practice!! Fly it carefully with small control inputs and don't try to hover as zero knots don't work.. you'll just tip up and crash. Try 25-30 knots as a starting slowest speed... you can land at 15-20 knots. YAP (Yankee Air Pirate) have some good models which are as close to a flight model as you can get with the Thirdwire game engine but you have to pay for the priviledge. Actually I don't find that much difference between the YAP flight models and the ones you can download here for free but that's just my view. ... Thanks very much! I usually set the flight option to hard, in order to get as close as to the real world, I'll try normal mode next time :yes: Quote
+kreelin Posted November 2, 2007 Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Kreelin is working on some helo FMs that are amazingly good, considering the constraints imposed upon him by the flight engine. It's coming... As soon as Marcfighter gets his rig back It was not easy to bypass the game flight engine constraints but the result is better and better for lite helicopters like the Agusta or Gazelle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivQ5TvtshpE Edited November 2, 2007 by kreelin Quote
+kreelin Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) Gents, Today I finally managed to create a third type of Helo FM. Initially I've worked on a specific FM for player only. The result is not that bad but the fact that the AI cannot handle the FM was a real fun killer (except for an online party). So I modified step by step my player FM until AI can do the basic with it.... See the result 4x AI Agusta taking off for a quick CAS near their homplate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgLV8oF0a9U Edited November 5, 2007 by kreelin Quote
+Florian Posted November 5, 2007 Posted November 5, 2007 Just amazing! This is definite a step into a new aspect of the TW series. Good work, kreelin! Quote
Bamzi Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) I did some changes in my Helicopters Data ini for make it takeoff and landing like a real one. And it works. So I decided to shear with you. It’s work for all Vertical Flight Aircrafts and Helicopters. ( F-35E – Harrier- MV-22B- &…… ) Please backup your original file before any changes. For AH-64D [FlightControl] StallSpeed=1 --------------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less CruiseSpeed=67.02 ClimbSpeed=52.733 CornerSpeed=270.0 ------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less MaxG=18.00 --------------------------------------------------- MaxSpeedSL=74.01 MachLimit=0.218 PitchDamper=0.8 RollDamper=0.4 YawDamper=0.1 // Airbrakes ------------------------------------------------------------- [LeftAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID= ModelNodeName= InsideNodeName= DragArea=35 -------------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less MaxDeploySpeed=326.4 [RightAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID= ModelNodeName= InsideNodeName= DragArea=35 ----------------------------------------- you can make it more or less MaxDeploySpeed=326.4 Harrier [FlightControl] StallSpeed=3 ---------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less //CruiseSpeed=197.35 CruiseSpeed=267.35 ClimbSpeed=260.60 CornerSpeed=220.27 ---------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less LandingSpeed=72.27 MaxG=14.80 ------------------------------------------------------------ you can make it more or less MaxSpeedSL=380.79 MachLimit=1.30 PitchDamper=0.8 RollDamper=0.4 YawDamper=0.0 GunBoresightAngle=0 RocketBoresightAngle=0 // Airbrakes --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=0.50 RetractTime=1.5 ModelNodeName= AnimationID=6 DragArea=11 --------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less [RightAirbrake] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=0.50 RetractTime=1.5 ModelNodeName= AnimationID=6 DragArea=11 -------------------------------------------------- you can make it more or less in easy mode For Harrier take off. first do with Elevator down and throttle up than take off .and for landing do Elevator down first than Air break and reduce throttle It works for all Helicopters, landing or take off too. have fun Edited January 27, 2015 by Bamzi Quote
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