sparkomatic Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Goes back to why I chuckle every time the "realism" debate begins...and we didnt even mention forms, briefs, pre-briefs, de-briefs, TTP, -1, stand-up, weather, intel, and maintenance...oh and more paperwork... Kind of like "did you assign your wingman to engage"...eh... Quote
Jarhead1 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Hey USAFMTL, Sparky, how about a geniune USMC 5 paragraph order, that would screw up some people royally too, lol. Hell i would be surprised if someone knew what SMEAC or SALUTE stood for honestly, lol. Quote
+Dave Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Hey USAFMTL, Sparky, how about a geniune USMC 5 paragraph order, that would screw up some people royally too, lol. Hell i would be surprised if someone knew what SMEAC or SALUTE stood for honestly, lol. Or SPORTS for that matter. Quote
Bravo2009 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Hey USAFMTL, Sparky, how about a geniune USMC 5 paragraph order, that would screw up some people royally too, lol. Hell i would be surprised if someone knew what SMEAC or SALUTE stood for honestly, lol. O-Orientation S-Situation M-Mission E-Execution A-Administration and Logistics C-Command S-Size A-Activity L-Location U-Unit T-Time E-Equipment don't forget DRAWD ;) Heck if you'd like I can write you a 5 paragraph order, would bring back lots of memories LOL. Also the acronym may be SALUTE but that is not the order how it would be prepared it, it would be TSUALE Quote
Jarhead1 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 lol, got the 5 para order, never had one with the orientation part though, usually that goes with the whole make recon part in BAMCIS for those that dont know BAMCIS, its Begin planning Arrange recon Make recon Complete planning Issue orders Supervise Quote
sparkomatic Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Cool stuff, JH1, Hmmm...nobody asked about the differences betweeen SKATE, SHORT SKATE, and BANZAI nor the time line application / awareness criteria for proper determination based upon bounding range, groups reported, and...never mind.... Oh, and for Vipers it is different than for Eagles Quote
serverandenforcer Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Liquids Ammo Casualties Equipment Quote
sparkomatic Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 now we are just being mean...how about a nice discussion about Vx and Vy... Quote
Jarhead1 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 How about the difference between GB and VX, hehehe. Quote
FastCargo Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 How about the difference between GB and VX, hehehe. Both could ruin your day...permanently! FastCargo Quote
+Dave Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 “Sir, since the former VP is such a VIP, shouldn’t we keep the PC on the QT? Because if it falls into the hands of the VC, he could end up an MIA, then we’d all be put on KP…” Quote
FastCargo Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Sir, the SITREP is this: Total SNAFU, we're about to get BOHICAed to the point of FUBAR, thats why IHTFP. Damn it, and I was so close to being FIGMO... FastCargo Quote
Jarhead1 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Be advised, ur being advised on how to be advised when being advised, how copy over???? Edited April 10, 2008 by Jarhead1 Quote
FastCargo Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Oldie but goodie: There appears to be some confusion over new pilot roles and their titles. This notice will hopefully clear up any misunderstandings. The titles P-1, P-2 (or pilot flying and pilot not flying) and Co-pilot will now cease to have any meaning in operations manuals. These terms will be replaced by `Handling Pilot,' `Non-handling Pilot,' `Handling Landing Pilot,' `Non-handling Landing Pilot,' `Handling Non-landing Pilot,' and `Non-handling Non-landing Pilot. Role Description: The Landing Pilot is the Handling Pilot and will handle the take-off and landing except in role reversal when he is the Handling Pilot for taxi and takeoff until he hands the handling to the current Non-Handling Pilot, who then becomes the Handling Pilot and the Landing Pilot (which makes him the Handling Landing Pilot) at eighty knots. The role reversal is complete when the previously Handling Non-Landing Pilot assumes the role of the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot. The Non-Landing (and Non-Handling, since the Landing Pilot is Handling) Pilot reads the checklist to the Handling Landing Pilot until after the Before Descent Checklist completion, when the Handling Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot, who then becomes the Handling Non-Landing Pilot, leaving the previously Handling Landing Pilot to assume the correct role of Non-Handling Landing Pilot, and the instrument approach may begin. We must stress that the Landing Pilot is the Non-Handling Pilot until the "decision altitude" call, when, if the landing is to be made, the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Landing Pilot, where the roles are reversed, and the previously Handling Non-Landing Pilot becomes the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot, and the previously Non-Handling Landing Pilot becomes the Handling Landing Pilot -- unless the original Non-Handling Landing Pilot calls "go-around," in which case the original Handling Non-Landing Pilot continues Handling and the Non-Handling Landing Pilot continues Non-Handling until the next approach and the call of "land" or "go-around," as appropriate, is made. We all hope this clarifies what may have been difficult to understand. Thank you for your attention. Funny thing, but if you use terms 'Pilot Flying' and 'Pilot Not Flying' and call this a 'monitored approach'...it makes perfect sense! FastCargo Quote
Jarhead1 Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 check rog FC, that is so confusing, it must be from a military tac manual, lol Quote
JediMaster Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 “Sir, since the former VP is such a VIP, shouldn’t we keep the PC on the QT? Because if it falls into the hands of the VC, he could end up an MIA, then we’d all be put on KP…” I'll have you know the weather is NOT always the same here. In fact, today is two degrees cooler than yesterday. Quote
+Dave Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 I'll have you know the weather is NOT always the same here. In fact, today is two degrees cooler than yesterday. What does three up and three down mean to you, airman? Quote
Bravo2009 Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 What does three up and three down mean to you, airman? The end of an inning? Quote
serverandenforcer Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 What does three up and three down mean to you, airman? Well that's simple... +3-3=0 Quote
sparkomatic Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Dude...other than just being wrong...what does that have to do with anything? Quote
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