Campaign headache.

[koushiro]

Hi everyone another question from a person having trouble.

Yesterday i downloaded the "battle of the phillipines" and found everything

but the terrain. I followed all of what the designer told me but

just could'nt find anything.

 

Using the idea of Brain_32's Vietnam_SEA and CA_Stary's green hell mod 2

i was only able to get land but no water.

 

 

Please if anyone can give any help on this it will be greatly admired.

 

its hard when you just have half of what you need.

[koushiro]

I guess asking a question doesn't always mean you'll get help.

[+christian59]

just for test

 

copy from vietnam terrain folder the vietnam.cat and copy it in the Philippines1941 terrain folder and rename it Philippines1941.cat

[Wrench]

The PI terrain is avialabe at AvSim. Baltika mentioned below, in the Battle of the PI thread. If I remember, I'll try to upload my original, unmodified version sometime.

 

You might need to register to get access to the downloads section at AvSim, but it's free and painless. And worth it! Some mods from The Beginning of Time are over there....

 

Remember To: Just because no one answers with the 2 1/2 hours between posting don't mean there isn't an answer; don't forget the time difference in differnt parts of the world. For me, I'm 8 hours behind Europe; I can't remember the difference from Caifornia to Japan??? What is it??? 14 hours, and the next day? (being on the other side of the Date Line from me)

 

Patience, my brother! Most answers come with a day or so!!

 

BTW, how good are your 'adding text to a bmp' skills??? I might tap you to translate some cockpit labels into Japanese for that stand-in Hurricane pit I'm using on the Ki-61. You game??? (being the only person I know that speaks Japanese!)

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+Baltika]

Hi koushiro,

 

I have answered your question in the Philippines campaign thread, to the best of my ability. Like the Ancient One says (it's in his sig, you know who I mean ) time zones may be an issue here re requests for help.

 

Believe me, the only reason I post campaigns is so that people will post their feedback/gripes/issues. I'll do my level best to get you up & running so you can start griping about real issues, like, where the hell are the Zero escorts for IJAAF bomber raids, and why do the USAAF still have an air force left in 1942

 

 

And, oh yeah, if you can help the aforementioned Ancient One with his quest to modify the Hurri pit for IJAAF/IJNAF birds, that would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers mate

 

Baltika

Edited August 15, 2008 by Baltika

[koushiro]

you can't do anything with what you don't have another campaign i really wanted to play

bites the dust.

 

 

I DON'T HAVE WOV.

 

SO WHAT CAN I DO BUT JUST ADD IT TO THE GRAVEYARD OF CAMPAIGNS THAT FAILED BECAUSE

EVERYTHING ISN'T THERE OR NOT AVAILABLE.

 

 

 

:angry2:

[koushiro]

i'm sorry i want to help you with the labels but i'm just about ready to toss my copy of woe out the window.

every campaign i want to play is a big failure and i just want to go back to my artistry.

and finish my designs for the ace combat campaign.

WW2 in the pacific is my favorite and it just angers me when i'm so close

but too far out of reach.

i don't have WOV so i'm out of luck.

 

 

 

 

The PI terrain is avialabe at AvSim. Baltika mentioned below, in the Battle of the PI thread. If I remember, I'll try to upload my original, unmodified version sometime.

 

You might need to register to get access to the downloads section at AvSim, but it's free and painless. And worth it! Some mods from The Beginning of Time are over there....

 

Remember To: Just because no one answers with the 2 1/2 hours between posting don't mean there isn't an answer; don't forget the time difference in differnt parts of the world. For me, I'm 8 hours behind Europe; I can't remember the difference from Caifornia to Japan??? What is it??? 14 hours, and the next day? (being on the other side of the Date Line from me)

 

Patience, my brother! Most answers come with a day or so!!

 

BTW, how good are your 'adding text to a bmp' skills??? I might tap you to translate some cockpit labels into Japanese for that stand-in Hurricane pit I'm using on the Ki-61. You game??? (being the only person I know that speaks Japanese!)

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+christian59]

HELLO

 

my idea work with GermanyCE.cat too

 

many thing in WOV are in WOE

[koushiro]

that was the first thing i trieded and no luck.

 

HELLO

 

my idea work with GermanyCE.cat too

 

many thing in WOV are in WOE

[Wrench]

You don't need WoV. You don't need Strike Fighters. You need to have the proper cat pointer in the terrain's main ini, in this case the Phillipines.ini

 

ALL my WW2 installs are in WoE, and I don't have any problems.

 

Try this -- back your original Phillipines.ini. Rename it something simple, like "ori_Phillipnes.ini" Do it as a "save as..." so you still have the orginal copy usable

 

Copy/paste the data below OVER the existing data in the original (NOT backuped) Phillipines.ini:

 

[Terrain]

TerrainFullName=Phillipines

DataFile=Phillipines_data.INI

TargetFile=Phillipines_targets.INI

TargetTypeFile=Phillipines_types.INI

MovementFile=Phillipines_movement.INI

NationsFile=Phillipines_nations.INI

BriefingText=Phillipines_briefing.INI

DogfightFile=Phillipines_dogfight.INI

DogfightOnly=FALSE

//CatFile=..\Desert\Desert.cat

CatFile=..\GermanyCE\GermanyCE.cat

//CatFile=..\VietnamSEA\VietnamSEA.cat

 

This is right out of MY PI.ini You'll note the commented out sections that point to the other stock terrain cat files. This one is set to use the WoE GermnayCE.cat. It works perfectly.

 

I don't know what else to tell you...somewhere along the line you're either NOT following instructions, or goofing it up somehow.

 

Post what you're ini says. You're also quite inclear as to EXACTLY what malfunction you're experiencing....CTDs?? Error messages? Missing ground items???

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[koushiro]

[Terrain]

TerrainFullName=Philippines 1941

DataFile=Philippines1941_data.INI

CatFile=..\Desert\Desert.cat

TargetFile=Philippines1941_targets.INI

TargetTypeFile=Philippines1941_types.INI

MovementFile=Philippines1941_movement.INI

NationsFile=Philippines1941_nations.INI

BriefingText=Philippines1941_briefing.INI

DogfightFile=Philippines1941_dogfight.INI

DogfightOnly=FALSE

 

 

Yours looks very different.

so i don't know what the heck is going on.

its a lost cause!!!!!

[+Baltika]

Hi Koushiro,

 

Try this:-

 

 

[Terrain]

TerrainFullName=Philippines 1941

DataFile=Philippines1941_data.INI

CatFile=..\GermanyCE\GermanyCE.cat <------ THIS LINE IS DIFFERENT

TargetFile=Philippines1941_targets.INI

TargetTypeFile=Philippines1941_types.INI

MovementFile=Philippines1941_movement.INI

NationsFile=Philippines1941_nations.INI

BriefingText=Philippines1941_briefing.INI

DogfightFile=Philippines1941_dogfight.INI

DogfightOnly=FALSE

 

 

Cheers,

 

Baltika

[koushiro]

see yours is totally different so i'm really don't know what is up.

why does it say one thing and mine is different.

am i missing something here.

 

how come everyone can get that terrian from avsim

but me i even a member can't get crap.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm lost and not going to deal with this.

 

 

 

its irritating when everything is missing

or just weird!!!!!!

[koushiro]

i did that already!!!!!!

and i have land but no water!!!!!!!!!!

does anyone understand what i'm saying

jesus i'm not speaking japanese i'm speaking english.

 

 

 

Hi Koushiro,

 

Try this:-

 

 

[Terrain]

TerrainFullName=Philippines 1941

DataFile=Philippines1941_data.INI

CatFile=..\GermanyCE\GermanyCE.cat <------ THIS LINE IS DIFFERENT

TargetFile=Philippines1941_targets.INI

TargetTypeFile=Philippines1941_types.INI

MovementFile=Philippines1941_movement.INI

NationsFile=Philippines1941_nations.INI

BriefingText=Philippines1941_briefing.INI

DogfightFile=Philippines1941_dogfight.INI

DogfightOnly=FALSE

 

 

Cheers,

 

Baltika

[+Baltika]

OK, I'll explain.

 

Edward's original WW2 Philipiines terrain is absed on a 1945 setting, with the Philipines occupied by the japanese and the allies invading to liberate the islands.

 

My philipines campaign is based on a 1941/1942 setting, with the Americans based on the isalnds and the japanese invading. I used Edward's terrain as a base, and gave detailed instructions in the readme on how to set up a separate "Philippines1941" terrain, so you can fly both Edward's original 1945 version, and create a new 1941 Philipines terrain based on that.

 

Yes, it's a bit fiddly.

 

Stick with it, we'll get it sorted

[koushiro]

 

I give up

cold war and modern air war seems better at this point

i'm getting nowhere

[koushiro]

See i've read your readme up and down and found nothing!!!

 

 

Nothing its driving me nuts.

 

Your saying one thing in your readme and i'm hearing otherwise.

 

 

the catfile.

nope no hope there

the terrian i'm what the heck.

 

 

Nothing is simple here

because if it was i'd be playing the part my grandfather played in the campaign.

[koushiro]

why am i getting everything in halfs and not the whole story!!!

Browse to your /Terrain folder. You will see folders called "Phillipines" [sic] and "Philippines1941"

 

 

 

what do you mean by this??!?!?!?!

i didn't see anything in the folder.

 

 

Jesus why do i care.

the only reason is because my wife wants to play it too

but no hope..

 

 

just the same brick wall

[Wrench]

I just had a thought....for the 1941 version, are the TFD and HFD files renamed to match the ini??

 

ie:

 

Phillipines1941.ini

 

Phillipines1941.TFD

Phillipines1941.HFD

 

 

To create a 'copy' terrain, ALL the files must be renamed. This would include the movement, dogfight, briefing, data, etc.

 

I've done this a few times, experimentating with creating alternate terrains (ie: like a winter EAW or Summer Korea)

The ini 'guts' I posted above is for the STOCK PI terrain, not the 1941 version. Although, the cat pointer info is usable for everything

 

Not having the 1941 Campaing set in front me is hampering the answers. Be back in a few.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[koushiro]

trying to explain something is getting to me.

 

maybe i should make my own campaign

 

because i'm getting no where.

 

 

i had hopes but its getting me nowhere.

 

 

and i thought when i made instruction some people wouldn't understand it.

[koushiro]

the ini and the files already looks like that.

i mean am i barking up the wrong tree here????

why is it so hard to get something to work here!!!!!!!

 

i'm already making a headstone for this game.

maybe the korean war will be more fun.

 

because its like the instructions don't make sense.

 

 

 

I just had a thought....for the 1941 version, are the TFD and HFD files renamed to match the ini??

 

ie:

 

Phillipines1941.ini

 

Phillipines1941.TFD

Phillipines1941.HFD

 

 

To create a 'copy' terrain, ALL the files must be renamed. This would include the movement, dogfight, briefing, data, etc.

 

I've done this a few times, experimentating with creating alternate terrains (ie: like a winter EAW or Summer Korea)

The ini 'guts' I posted above is for the STOCK PI terrain, not the 1941 version. Although, the cat pointer info is usable for everything

 

Not having the 1941 Campaing set in front me is hampering the answers. Be back in a few.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[Wrench]

NO, the instructions MAKE perfect sense, if you had followed them. BUT -- and I have to point a finger at Baltika here- he forgot some very simple instruction lines...

 

"You MUST have the original Phillipines Islands Terrain to create a copy of, to install THIS mod to. Terrain Tiles are NOT included. You WILL need to copy over all the bmp, tga, and tod files from the Original Phillipines terrain folder. OR create a copy of the original Phillipines terrain folder, rename it 'Phillipines1941, then install all the inis and bits from this package"

 

The original PI map, had ALL the terrain tiles necessary included in it's zip.

 

Now, in the vein of finger pointing, if YOU had posted a screen shot of what what happening, we could have figured this out a looooooooooooong time ago.

 

I'm assuming, that in game, it looks like this?

Exhibit A - no terrain tiles

 

And it should look like this...

Exhibit B, with terrain tiles, albit from the VietnamSEA.cat.

 

You want to get it to work, haul it over the downloads section, and grab an alternate Vietnam tile set.

That's all you need to get it going.

 

Next time, DO try and take screenies and post them. It really helps in diagnosing problems.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

 

ps: you owe me one now!!!

[+Baltika]

Hi Wrench,

 

Message received, I'll sort out the readme. As a justification for the way I set it up, I had intended people to be able to fly Edward's original 1945 set up alongside the 1941 version for my campaign, and had hoped it was clear you needed the original to copy files over from.

 

In v1.1 of the campaign d/l, there is a "Philippines1941" folder with all the .ini files for that modded version of the terrain included, with modded .TFD and .HFD files for the additional airbases. So all that was required was the tileset and the various groundobjects (in the terrain folder) from the original, as well as the "pacific_objects.zip" which is at avsim.

 

As you reckon it's OK to upload Edward's original avsim Philippines terrain here, may I assume that it would be OK, and make everyones life whole lot easier, for me to include the modded 1941 version of that terrain with my campaign upload?

 

Quid juris?

[koushiro]

theres one vietnam tileset and it didn't work!!!!!!!

 

you know i thank you for the help but i'm not getting anywhere in this.

so i've had it!!!

 

 

 

 

NO, the instructions MAKE perfect sense, if you had followed them. BUT -- and I have to point a finger at Baltika here- he forgot some very simple instruction lines...

 

"You MUST have the original Phillipines Islands Terrain to create a copy of, to install THIS mod to. Terrain Tiles are NOT included. You WILL need to copy over all the bmp, tga, and tod files from the Original Phillipines terrain folder. OR create a copy of the original Phillipines terrain folder, rename it 'Phillipines1941, then install all the inis and bits from this package"

 

The original PI map, had ALL the terrain tiles necessary included in it's zip.

 

Now, in the vein of finger pointing, if YOU had posted a screen shot of what what happening, we could have figured this out a looooooooooooong time ago.

 

I'm assuming, that in game, it looks like this?

Exhibit A - no terrain tiles

 

 

And it should look like this...

Exhibit B, with terrain tiles, albit from the VietnamSEA.cat.

 

 

You want to get it to work, haul it over the downloads section, and grab an alternate Vietnam tile set.

That's all you need to get it going.

 

Next time, DO try and take screenies and post them. It really helps in diagnosing problems.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

 

ps: you owe me one now!!!

[Wrench]

Baltika: I'd just straighten out the readme. Uploading it with the tiles creates a 33meg file!!! Also, I'm not sure WHO created them. One of the the readmes suggests they might be Deuces, so he'd need to be asked (unless he's signed the Freeware Accords Treaty or FAT )

 

Koushiro: Brother, whatever you think you gotta do, go ahead and do it. We've given you all the answers, all the pointers, everything except coming over there and actually doing the work for you. I'm sorry you can't get it working. Truely, we'd love to hear how it plays for you, from YOUR perspective (most of us being Westerners, and on the 'recieving end', historically speaking. Although, my father wasn't there unitl late 1944)

Believe me, I know how frustrating it can be; hell, this took me 3 hours to sort out, and I'm one of the 'supposed' experts. During that time, I could have worked more on the WW2 China upgrade, finished off the 3rd Tony skin, and done more research for the Midway Zero I want to do.

 

Wrench

kevin stein

 

ps: since I just uploaded the ENTIRE original Phillipine terrain, why don't you give that a try?? There's no honor in quiting, not when the annwers are just within reach.