+lindr2 19 Posted August 26, 2008 One my good acquaintance (he works in a corporation "Suckhoi") revealed to me not official information, that during a conflict in Sonth Ossetia were first applied several of Su-34's "... results are very good, medals list prepare for rewarding of employees of company participating in battle actions..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolin 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Does shooting at defenseless targets count as combat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted August 26, 2008 Does shooting at defenseless targets count as combat? Now now be nice - There was plenty of Georgian Artillery and armour on the BBC rolling out of SO - and they only reported military targets being hit - apart from a stray bomb - but that happens in every air campaign tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted August 26, 2008 Does shooting at defenseless targets count as combat? While it was somewhat one-sided, the losses of Soviet (excuse me - Russian Empire) aircraft would indicate that the Georgians were not exactly defenseless. To put it another way, the Soviet (excuse me - Russian Empire) losses were three times our losses over Serbia. I have not seen anything that indicates the Su-34 was used, some Su-24's, Su-25's, Su-27's and Tu-22M's were. It will be interesting to see that info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Does shooting at defenseless targets count as combat? So.... Americans, Britishes,Israelis and French planes are shooting in defenseless targets today, so by these way...Yes. Unfortunately everybody do it, its war, no matter what you shoot and Youtube can prove it hehe. Edited August 26, 2008 by Silverbolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadair 16 Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Does shooting at defenseless targets count as combat? Sorry but I can't take this. In that case do AlliedForce and Desert Storm count? ? Yes they were shooting, but the scale of those operations were way bigger and the superiority of western forces overwhelimg And Afghanistan? Anyway, I can personally say that they used Hinds and Hips. Not sure if Mi-24, or Mi-35; hard to say when they are 3000 ft below you, flying nap of the earth Edited August 26, 2008 by Canadair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolin 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Well, thats exactly what I meant! How can you determine the "value" of a modern fighterplane without proper resistance - that goes for the US, GB and whoerver else operations, too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vader2 1 Posted August 26, 2008 I,agree with MigBuster and lindr2. Typicall German view from Shaolin. Boring! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolin 0 Posted August 26, 2008 [...] "... results are very good, medals list prepare for rewarding of employees of company participating in battle actions..." Wait, did I understand that correct? "Employees of company"? They used non-military personal to test the jets in a real war? @Lord Vader ( ): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted August 26, 2008 Well, thats exactly what I meant! How can you determine the "value" of a modern fighterplane without proper resistance - that goes for the US, GB and whoerver else operations, too... Just some countries in the wold can offer real anti-air resistance against any westenr aricraft against no-Nato Nations as India , China,Israel and Russia. btw idk if you saw,but russia lost some planes in these conflict (Su-25 and Tu-22, i heard about one Fencer but not confirmed) so, it will look always a unfair war. the World modern's war logic today is: "Don't mess with the wrong guys". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Wait, did I understand that correct? "Employees of company"? They used non-military personal to test the jets in a real war? @Lord Vader ( ): i think...the Shareholder , the people who buy the "papers". Edited August 26, 2008 by Silverbolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted August 26, 2008 We're done here. FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites