Help Help Help WOI

[Wraith27 6]

Hello Guys!

 

I have WOI since some days and some problems:

 

First: F/A-37 talon. The VariableGeometry works inversely.

 

mean this is my Talon in low speed:

 

 

And this is my talon in high speed:

 

 

I tried to change sometching in data.ini file mean Swingwings section but without succes.

 

Second problem: similar -A-5A canopy works inversaly:

 

 

Third is problem with VTOL aircraft. Most of them including AV-8A/BPlus, GR-1/3 dont wont make vertical take-off with weapons mean only with small AA missiles the start with trouble. Adding FT or some BOMBS and they wont start. I dont have this problem with Yak-41 and FRS-1/2.

 

Thats all -for now. Ofcourse I DONT HAVE THIS PROBLEMS IN WOE !!!

[MigBuster 2,884]

think NFG posted a fix for opening canopies in WOI - look in downloads

 

as for the other things - the flight models obviously need to be revised.

[kct 5]

These is one of the reasons why a lot needs to be done to WoI a plane.

[Wrench 9,850]

It's a known bug in WoI on "automatic speed contol'' built into the data ini. I don't know if there's ever been a fix posted for it. Other than remming out the section in question (best done for canopies)

 

You could try reversing the values:

 

[swingwings]

SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE

DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_SPEED

Setting[1].Angle=30.0

Setting[1].DeployValue=300.0

Setting[1].RetractValue=300.0

MaxDeflection=30.0

MinDeflection=0.0

ControlRate=1.0

AnimationID=1

 

Which, unfortunately, on the Talon (shown above) are the same. Or change them to manual control, via an animation key assignment.

 

OR

 

try substituting the information from TMF's Tomcat...as it seem sllightly different in application, adjusting speeds as needed

[LeftSwingWing]

SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE

DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_MACH

Setting[1].Angle=24.0

Setting[1].DeployValue=0.80

Setting[1].RetractValue=0.85

Setting[2].Angle=48.0

Setting[2].DeployValue=0.50

Setting[2].RetractValue=0.55

MaxDeflection=48.0

MinDeflection=0.0

ControlRate=0.6

ModelNodeName=LeftWing

RotationAxis=Z-Axis

CDdc=0.0150

CLiftdc=0.0800

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

 

[RightSwingWing]

SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE

DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_MACH

Setting[1].Angle=24.0

Setting[1].DeployValue=0.80

Setting[1].RetractValue=0.85

Setting[2].Angle=48.0

Setting[2].DeployValue=0.50

Setting[2].RetractValue=0.55

MaxDeflection=48.0

MinDeflection=0.0

ControlRate=0.6

ModelNodeName=RightWing

RotationAxis=Z-Axis

CDdc=0.0150

CLiftdc=0.0800

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

....

 

Note there's some MAJOR differences in HOW it's done...

 

Basic info should be there, you'll just need to spend time getting the correct mesh names. Asking Zur for assistance might be a super good idea as well....

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+Zurawski 33]

I've been working on this...

 

As Wrench eluded to the auto speed control parameter that worked in WoV, SF and WoE is broke/works differently in WoI. I've been experimenting with several different solutions with varying results. I "almost" have it working as expected, however I can only get the wings to retract/close half-way... I know it can be done, but I might be too flipping dense in the bucket to grasp what I'm missing...

 

Stay tuned... I have Friday and the weekend available to me (wife is out of town)... and I'll sit down and try and get this figured out.

Edited September 11, 2008 by Zurawski

[Wraith27 6]

So good that You are comming Zurawski!

 

I spend the last night trying to fix this problem. Witchout succes.

 

The last what I make is this:

 

[swingwings]

SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE

DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_SPEED

Setting[1].Angle=30.0

Setting[1].DeployValue=300.0

Setting[1].RetractValue=295.0

Setting[2].Angle=0.0

Setting[2].DeployValue=0.0

Setting[2].RetractValue=0.01

MaxDeflection=30.0

MinDeflection=0.0

ControlRate=1.0

AnimationID=1

 

The variablegeometry still wont work but wings and verttails are in correct position on slow speed.

 

Using Tomkat's TMF's works that same wrong plus Verttails not changing geometry...

Edited September 12, 2008 by CIACHO