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ojcar Newbie

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I was tweaking (once again) my Korean install (my fav, so far) and having read that F-84s carried more than F-80s I was surprised, because in my game, F-84G have only two pylons (and only for tanks or bombs). The F-80C have more pylons, and carries bombs, rockets, etc. So, it's correct? If not, is there a mod with more pylons or payloads for F-84G?

What were the historical loadout for this plane?

suhsjake Newbie

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Try using wrenches mod. It is an F-84B/C model but it has stations for rocket racks and bombs.

 

EDIT 1

F-84E Loaded to the Teeth

060828-F-1234S-016.jpg

 

EDIT 2

 

If you could find the old F-84F Rocket Rack (think it is in Bunyaps Weapons Pack), you could easily add them yourself.

 

EDIT 3

 

Looked at Joe B's site. It mentions that the F-84E could carry two bombs or two tiny tims and up to 32 rockets. It doesn't say anything about the F-84G armament though.

 

EDIT 4

 

Turkish F-84G

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EDIT 5

 

Taiwanese F-84Gs

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I think most countries retrofitted their own rocket set ups.

 

EDIT 6

 

Might have to bug Russo to see if he could configure the tip tanks to be removable and configurable to SF2 standard where the tanks (Tip and Under Tanks) are built into the model.

 

EDIT 10241654

 

So many Edits so little time :crazy:

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suhsjake Newbie

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Right Mr. Russo, I will look for pictures of the rocket rack, but I think it will be extremely hard to find. The closest you are probably going to get is that F-84E picture shown above with the 24 HVARS (I don't think the Wing Tip Rocket Stations would have been very useful) and two Tiny Tims. So maybe a compromise, three mid wing rocket stations supporting three rockets each would give you a total of 18 HVARS to play with.

 

BTW, you might have to make two models of the F-84G as SF2 might only have the built in tank feature (Did the Oct2008b patch add that support for the earlier series?).

 

Also any pictures and information from the rest of the community would be helpful. The rocket armed F-84G is a very elusive beast.

 

I hope to get the SF2 F-84E_LATE and F-84G project done before I ship for basic in two weeks (probably not likely).

ojcar Newbie

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Well I'm not using the October patch in my Korea install. Too much propeller planes and October patch is no good for them...

I think the best is as the Turkish plane. Two stations with three rockets (the F-84 rocket rack appears as Belgian and more modern than Korea, but can be edited). Well, this and the Tiny Tims...

By the way, I don't know how many hardpoints had this plane.

Wrench Apprentice

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Nuts!! I never did anwer you're PM...sorry Jake!!

 

here's my loadout ini for the F-84G, right from my Korean War install (bunypak, 06 patch)

 

// Station 1 = Station01

// Station 2 = Station02

// Station 3 = Station03

// Station 4 = Station04

// Station 5 = Station05

// Station 6 = Station06

// Station 7 = Station07

// Station 8 = Station08

// Station 9 = Station09

// Station 10 = Station10

// Station 11 = Left Wing Station

// Station 12 = Right Wing Station

 

[FAC]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

Loadout[12].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[12].Quantity=1

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

 

[Attack]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

Loadout[12].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[12].Quantity=1

 

[Recon]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

 

Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=500lb_bomb

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

Loadout[12].WeaponType=500lb_bomb

Loadout[12].Quantity=1

 

[sEAD]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=HVAR_MKII

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

Loadout[11].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[11].Quantity=1

Loadout[12].WeaponType=Tank_F-84G

Loadout[12].Quantity=1

 

and the weapons stations from the data ini...I don't think they're changed...

 

[station01]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-4.4440,0.3510,-0.2581

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail01

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station02]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=4.4440,0.3510,-0.2581

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail02

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station03]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-4.1620,0.3770,-0.2835

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail03

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station04]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=4.1620,0.3770,-0.2835

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail04

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station05]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.8790,0.4029,-0.3112

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail05

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station06]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.8790,0.4030,-0.3112

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail06

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station07]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.5950,0.4260,-0.3409

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail07

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station08]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=8

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.5950,0.4260,-0.3409

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail08

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station09]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=9

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.3130,0.4526,-0.3692

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail09

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[station10]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=10

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.3130,0.4530,-0.3692

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=2050

AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=Rail10

PylonMass=0.5

PylonDragArea=0.01

 

[LeftWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=11

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.844,0.709,-0.756

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=800.0

AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=PylonL

PylonMass=40.0

PylonDragArea=0.03

FuelTankName=Tank_F-84G

 

[RightWingStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=12

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.844,0.709,-0.756

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=800.0

AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB

AttachmentType=NATO,USAF

ModelNodeName=PylonR

PylonMass=40.0

PylonDragArea=0.03

FuelTankName=Tank_F-84G

 

I've got the Schiffer book (an ACTUAL book, not pdf) on the F-84s. With the max load shown in the pics above, they'd need JATO/RATO to get airborne, and their range was severly restricted

 

I've never used the F84_Trple_rack on anything but the swept wing F version. I'm sure a little tweeking could add it to the straight-winged variants.

 

wrench

kevin stein

suhsjake Newbie

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gallery_18784_291_146977.jpg

 

Presto Magico, and F-84G with HVARS

 

 

EDIT 1

 

To Russo,

Just one minor error on the model with decal bleeding on the left side near the tail.

Edited by suhsjake
suhsjake Newbie

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More progress, new skin and 20 total rockets now (Two Tiny Tims and 18 HVARS) if the F-84E could carry 32 rockets (according to Joe B.) then it would be two Tiny Tims on the main pylons, 9 under each wing (18 total) and six on each wing tip (12). 2+18+12=32. HAH HAH, eat it statistics.

 

gallery_18784_291_118873.jpg

 

 

EDIT

Also looking for hi rez pictures of the top/bottom and cockpit fuselage area for markings and stuff like that.

Edited by suhsjake

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